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@An young being yeah, that might be realized when ai gets really advanced and the people aren't too biased to put it in action and listen to it.

@Breakingthewall thx, I think I remember now that you mentioned that earlier. It's hard to keep track which person has which background and experiences. I agree that this happens to be the case a lot, especially with lower income and education and poverty. However, from personal experience, I know that there is more diversity and there always exists at least different sized bubbles of people who live more stage orange or even green, like in turkey in the istanbul area or in marocco the city of fes. Here in europe at universities you can also find very open minded muslim people.

@An young being I don't think so. An AI will be trained by certain people with data from people and bias would be baked into it. That means it will probably not "think" in what is a more conscious decision?"but materialistically. there are so complex fundamental issues that no ai can solve in the foreseeable future like is it better to treat all humans equally or push for the more advanced countries or find the right balance between. The bitter truth is that every person acts most of the time short term because survival is always decisions in the now to get you survive from moment to moment on the fly. Of course there are degrees and some people plan a lot for the future but they are rather the exception. I'm sure you everyone has examples where he preferes short term decisions which turned out desastrous in the long run like after years of smoking getting sick. I know it's an emotional thread so all this isn't meant to play down the severity of the situation but instead to get some insights how the human mind works.

@HMD yeah and it is a terrible thing and I don't think it will stop any time in the near future. You seem very educated. I don't know how involved you are personally and didn't read all your previous posts but can you see the situation from the israeli perspective as well? @Breakingthewalldo you know muslims personally or have hang out with any?

@An young being Yes, and it often works amazingly in the short term like al quaida or even isis by letting them roam freely in eastern syria. I think when you are right now in the situation it is hard to predict how all your current actions will later unfold and what will be the consequences of it.

Yeah, that happened. Foreign powers support all groups to advance their agenda all the time. However it is still a different matter if you support a group with the intention to undermine the opposite side or to create a extremist terrorist organisation who massacre your people intentionally. I don't think that the people then thought that far ahead and for the israeli side it was a good move at the time and it had been still useful up to that point last week in order to justify their policy.

I stumbled upon this video about David Grusch's perspective on the subject on the yestheory channel. I haven't fully watched it yet. it's interesting and he answered questions of ordinary people and we get a little more backstory about him and the hurdles he had to jump.

I don't believe what just now happened. I was visiting a jazz konzert and this crazy dude from last time appeared. When I saw him I joined him and we talked about consciousness and how nutrition can increase or cause a decrease by having unhealthy gut bacteria which release neurotransmitter to cause depressed states and cravings for low conscious things. He explained many ways to fix it by starving with the right food and also he explai edhe shared some joins and he was taeching me how to focus in the now so that thoughts disappear. We also listened to the sound and I kept getting more conscious but I got instead more conscious how unclear my thought were and how I was in autopilot. He was using his own words and no nondual words because he haven't read spiritual books. Cuz he went natural without them on the way. However talking about this might have sounded crazy to other people occasionally crossing by. Well what then happens was that he made me clear how consciousness goes on outpilot and how deep into it I was. Then he said when you aweken and die your whole live starts to appear in front of your eyes again and when then happened that the autopilot came for a eternal second to a stand still and my live statted to reverse for a second and then I pushed it back again and off I went again on autopilot... I was literal dying. I was asking him if I come back again and he said "not sure" with a casual look on his face, so I decided to wait. My heart was beating heavily and reality had stopped and I came back. This happened 2-3 hours ago and I'm normal. I learned a lot and I am greatful to him. At the same time my ego starts sabotaging how I thing about him and projects shit about him as defence strategy. He is defenetively very advanced and told me that for him reality every now and than disappears. He said when one arrives there is nothing to add and more complex stuff I understood in that state. He is relatively strange but to most people he talks far less to and said this makes people unconscious because it starts low conscious stuff. I don't claim him to be enlightened or such stuff but he is quite high conscious and is very present. what's also far more important is what he caused in me. I had awakening and knew who I was for this moment. It also was very interesting because he explained me in this state in real live examples how these mechanism happen by explaining and then start a short chit chat with someone. I saw how I and the person I we were talking to were going into autopilot we get unconscious. edit: He is quite quiet and calm and not that superficially nice like my stage green spiritual friends with sleepy eyes. what I also learned from him is that niceness is also maya and spiritual decoration like leo a few times said. No I understand what he ment. Thx everyone! I hope that I'm gonna meet this guy somewhere again.

I hope I don't derail this thread too much but this guy has defenitely made progress in trancending suffering @Leo Gura ?

I agree with you on being able to reduce it a lot but my point was that in practice it is highly unlikely that eliminating it comepletely is possible even for the most advanced practitioners.

I don't think that this is comparable because the situation you mentioned is a very controlled situation but having a bigger accident and getting beaten up badly has a different flavour which would cause more resistance and put you in a lower state due to survival mode and it would be much harder ro catch your mind while you need your mind to figure out how to get out of there.

Do you know from what he's suffered? You can suffer and still be happy if you are aware of the thoughts and feelings so that you are the space around but I think the harder you suffer the harder it is to stay that way or some sickness kills off your mindfulness. For the feeling of pain itself it is from my experience very dependent on resistence and the degree of negativity up to a certain a degree of pain. It can be ok if you stay with the feeling and it can be very strong pain. But there are situations like when your feet are crushed and that goes for almost everyone out of the window except some rare cases of extreme surrender in a particular case but pain in other cases. I think the diminishing of suffering to almost zero like the buddha (if he existed) was due to his lack of suffering and trauma in his years before seeking.

From my experience you can even eat grains in form of whole grain like spelt. You can cook them like rice and they keep you filled up. Bread might also work if it isn't wheat and whole grain. It is super important how they are packed. I have once seen a documentary of people eating whole grains, nuts, veggies and fruits and taking in more than 2000 calories per day and they stayed thin and then switched to junk food with 2k calories and they got fat really fast. Just a question. How common is good quality whole grain bread without additives in the us?

Some parts seem good like the cold shower and the walk. However, wouldn't be the most tough thing for you to stop agitating yourself and live with a few minutes silence or quit smoking? Might be fun as long as you are young but in 10 or 20 years this might get you in trouble.

This might have different causes. First, for most people V-LSD tends to be far more visual than other analogues. I've experienced that myself and had on 225ug as much visuals as on 400ug lsd and I think that can cause some after effects for a week as I've experienced that too. I would just wait at least a month to do another trip or change the analogues/substance. Other things that might influence that might be enhanced pattern recognition which can also come from consciouness work. Just to be informed so you don't worry too much if it occurs because my ego got really worried when I became aware of the following. You might get aware of small cristalls floating in your eyes which your brain normally removes like your blind spot on your retina or getting aware that your visual field acually vibrates and that it is appearing and disappearing like everything else and is literally changing forms

There already exists a few weeks old thread with his story and another story.

@Leo Gura tax avasion isn't a serious crime in the eu. I have found examples of 7-8 years ago. If they haven't tightened the law recently an offender gets 1-5 years in prison in romania and/or a fine. Example:https://balkaninsight.com/2014/08/25/romania-jails-businessman-for-tax-evasion/

@martins name maybe he's started a new gimnick and he's making big money by selling worn underwear in his name to his war room members.

@D2sage Sry, I'm still not sure if we both misunderstood each other. From my POV it looks like you were deflecting and excusing his beheavior and enabling it but in a way you are doing it because there is clear evidence about tates crimes and his sociopathic character. it is obvious what he is doing right now with his pr stunts and your posting his stuff and not to forget he is worse than these people you've named. I'm not sure right now about your stance because it looks really looks like your deflecting and relativising by saying how "bad" everybody else is. Can you elaborate? I didn't say that I condone exploitation of children and poor people in africa but it is easier to do something good for society by standing up against enabeling a extremely toxic philosophy than living in a cave and I think that this is misapplied relativity. You are mostly right about hypocracy in ourselves and I am hypocrite in many ways, too and as many here I'm working on it little by little to reduce it. However it is a matter of degree of hypocracy and hatred and there are also other factors at play like the level of consciousness, developement, trauma etc which vary from person to person. So not everybody is a hypocrite the same way.

Hey there, I've deconstructed religion, mathematics and language mostly via youtube channels like "religionforbreakfast", "let's talk religion" and some articles on the internet and wikipedia. I'm now looking for new sources to deconstruct science and a little bit more mathematics. Has anyone some good sources to do that? I've already read most of "the structure of scientific revolution". Maybe there are some youtube channels which explain how science and mathematics was done over the course of the centuries. Thx in advance! @DocWatts @Leo Gura

Broh, are you serious? That's a false equivalent and the sexual exploitation is easily avoidable and even in these countries a crime and a danger to society and one "wrong" thing does not justify another one. The other problem is a far deeper multilayered problem. But hey, we are here to learn how deception works so I'm interested to know how that all computes in your mind. How do you justify that he has been charged with these serious crimes and the majority in this consciouness/pd forum sees that there extremely highly likely must be something wrong in your and starstrucks line of reasoning?

@oldhandle There is no linear amswer. It has many causes and I don't want to put into your mind a limiting believe which you might unconsciously take as excuse not take action. Even if genetic and how you acted before played a role I think that the huge majority is able to handle it and learn to use it responsibly. If you're always horny try to not give in every time and only every day and *consciously* divert your attention somewhere else. That will feel empowering.

@seriousman24 His spiritual arc will be initiated by his wizard friend and a load of coke. No but really even if he did 5 meo-dmt back to back with leo and deepak chopra and a shaman together he would realize that he has to come back to his selfish character who doesn't care and would distort this experience to fit his needs like charles manson did. @StarStruck what do you think about tate donating money? What's your opinion about his charges? Do you think those are related as mentioned above?

I think the topic is too multilayered to find the one solution or what is right. Minds can be very different and some people have more addictied minds than others and get far greater dopamine rushs than other ones and their minds get extremely accelerated and if they are prone to negative thinking habits their minds turns negative in the same intensity as the positive and their consciousness easily flies out of the window. Or they get in negative behaviour patterns, like negative selftalk that they did it or realizing that the use it as avoidance mechanism or distracting from responsibilities like creating a fulfilling life.It also depends what you watch and your vibration level. But on the other hand many people can do it in a healthy way or learn to do it, some though don't. It often fixes itself when people do other things they like doing and work on themselves. I think one should neither demonize it nor take leo's or personal experience or mine or anyones else as the final word. If It bothers one it's up to the individual to question what the motivation behind the bother is and find the solution.

Yes, it works from many angles at once. We are so deeply conditioned to avoid feeling and truth and distract ourserlves with low conscious eating habits to distract and numb our senses. The more you practice and get in touch with your essence aka love the less you have the urge to avoid your feelings by eating something sweet or greasy. You will also become more sensitive so that you will feel the negative effects it has on your body and especially the low state of conscious it entails. You will also start to notice all the sneaky ways advertisements try to get you to buy unhealthy and unecessary stuff and you will less have the tendecy to follow it. Also pure consciousness will give you a different good feeling which will grow with time so there will be lesd of a need for other pleasures and btw the greatest pleasure is god. From personal experience I can tell that it works for the afore mentioned reasons. It's nice that it's written down but a whole book seems a bit overshot.