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bufo boiling/vaporization, melting temperature research
so- I was kinda researching how to extract 5-meo-dmt from bufo,
and soon I figured out that during the vaporization of bufo, unless it is a highly skilled facilitator with a scientifically accurate temperature sensorduring the vaporization, cardiotoxins get vaporized anyway and inhaled.
it brings more evidence that Nasal/rectal administration of bufo has proven to be safe.
still vaporization itself is dangerous by many reasonsand bufo is impure, risky to dose, and difficult to administrate
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Just now, Yimpa said:I wonder what happens if you try 5 different kinds of 5-MeO at the same time 🤔
I am not responsible for nothing!
5meomalt and 5meodmt, microdosed myself
No problem, quite identical
Somebody had proper trips on it, still no problem
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5meodmt to wake up (breakthrough doses)
5meomalt to embody (micro-low dose)
5meomipt to show up (5~8 hours length)
Haven't tried 5meomipt yet
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On 2/10/2024 at 11:21 PM, Leo Gura said:On 2/10/2024 at 11:21 PM, Leo Gura said:Def not ideal to plug because you are absorbing toxins. When you vape it the toxins stay in the pipe.
Bufo is just an impure form of 5-MeO-DMT. Effect is identical but you get unknown impurities and who knows what the health side effects might be.
Toxins from bufo are actually used as traditional Chinese medicine,
As bufo alvarius produces mainly 5meodmt and bufotenin, other toxins are actually minor.
Still unknown how much safe it will be, simply no Data in human history that has been putting toad venom in the butthole.
Subjectively I've done it once, 50mg, so about 5~10mg 5meo, it felt safe.
About nasal, after 2 days my nose recovered quite well, feels much better, will never snort.
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well it seems like other ROA does not work for you, so you go on vape
Would be more interesting to focus on why panic attacks are caused in the first place
And yeah several experimentation, dosages will be interesting.
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24 minutes ago, Rahul yadav said:@Fluran have you tried 5meo before? was the experience with current 5meo toad venom similar with synthetic? was there any body load with this?
Yom difficult to source 5meo now so I am going with bufo
It is basically synthetic 5meo, with subtle extra things added on it, cardiotoxic elements such as bufalin, or another tryptamine bufotenine adds more body load I guess.
When smoked it feels almost identical.
Nasal administeration shall better be forbidden via bufo, because it's 10 times more particles than 5-meo. And other toxins may damage nose much faster.
I have already very messed up nose(my nose gets blocked frequently..)
Rectal administration, is much better than nasal, still it is unsure about the safety
Vaporization with glass pipe is surely safe but feels smokey flavor due to proteins in bufo flakes
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2 days ago, with bufo nasal administeration I made it successfully to be recreational, but it's quite hard to make it recreational
And 5-meo-dmt on scenting, micro-dose level, or at any level can have some mild headache and dizziness, sleepy head
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so conclusion is, well, I would stick to pure chemical version as much as possible,
burning it or applying heat, with incense holder is considerable, scenting would be still very fine -
bufotenine is known to be harmless,
other bufotoxins such as bufalin and bufotalin and so on, are traditionally used in chinese medicine context,
lethal dose for cats and dogs are notable though
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bufotoxin
It can contain 5-MeO-DMT, bufagins, bufalin, bufotalin, bufotenin, bufothionine, dehydrobufotenine, epinephrine, norepinephrine, and serotonin.
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So you are that guy who are reading all the horror stories of psychedelics?
On 1/27/2024 at 4:37 PM, Cubbage said:@GLORY You may enjoy this video I made covering that combination:
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So.. I am in Mexico, mail system here is so messed up so I rather sourced bufo, which contains 10~30% 5-Meo-Dmt
It costs like 60~120 $ per gram. effectively still expensive than pure 5meodmt
I mixed it with vinegar, as it comes as freebase,
It has a weird jelly texture but I grind and destroy it with syringe
I did microdosed, nasal sprayed, then did rectal 5mg, it was yeah, 5-Meo-Dmt
I wonder if there is health risk this way. Any concerns?
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oh, i just developed nasal sprays on my own, cool they are good for meditation and being.. sleepy;
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8 hours ago, Leo Gura said:You don't need a test kit. Just test it on yourself.
subjective experience is that it has never been degraded.
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Note: I am currently unable to conduct this experiment, so I'm documenting my query here.
I am curious about the potential degradation of 5-MeO-DMT over time when dissolved in distilled water and vinegar. Based on my subjective experiences, it has consistently maintained potency during my travels in various conditions.
Experiment Setup:
Tools Needed: Reagent purity test kits available at DanceSafe
Substance: 5-MeO-DMT, dissolved in distilled water/vinegar
Experimentation Conditions:
Test the substance in both liquid and powder form.
After dissolving, set up different conditions, including variations in container type, temperature, light exposure, and using different liquids.
Perform purity tests on each sample to assess the 5-MeO-DMT purity.
Please note that I am not conducting this experiment personally but am interested in understanding the stability of 5-MeO-DMT under these conditions.
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I am using this method personally, also dissolved in vinegar as I had freebase, personally I did not experience degradation, but sciencific research may say differently,
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so i hear @Leo Gura telling that he is sensitive to any psychedelics than other people, but wouldnt it be result of taking 5meo so many times?
after taking 5meo and malt 40+ times, I became so sensitive to any psychoactive substances, smelling 5meo impacts me quite well, shroom becomes more 5meo with solipsistic realizationI find that 5meo makes mind supppper sensitive in general
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8 hours ago, OBEler said:Water is a big force which can destroy whole Citys. But you still drink it.
I would be open minded that something very powerful like 5 Meo dmt becomes a useful little tool for mundane things.
Even if you triple the costs , 12 cent per microdose is still cheap in first world countrys
yeah haha, will not be useful in every cases, plenty of bad implementations, but definitely there will be useful cases,
you may use micro-dose to low dose to do creative-holistic writing, for creative Work that is not intensive(in my case, Writing an article, or building a business)
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well there is melatonin which is also a tryptamine too
there are literal upside and downside of 5meodmt, it can be actually anxiety inducing, exposing to stress or noise after trip enduces anxiety, the higher dose it is, it is likely will that be.
it will demand you to breath and relax, regulate your nervous system constantly, when this process is interrupted, it induces anxiety.
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22 hours ago, OBEler said:@Fluran thanks on what situations do you smell on 5 Meo DMT? Just before going to sleep?
Smelling, Tested every ordinary situation, good for everything,
If you aim for relaxed vibe it's good to go, it works even at the party setting but you may get just relaxed
Spraying(1~2mg), is in my experience not good for socializing, too much anxiety inducing,
Though, it may just mean that mind has to be able to rest and relax properly
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12 hours ago, OBEler said:Sorry for confusion but does it matter if I dissolve for smelling reasons alone 10 mg 5 Meo DMT with 1 ml or 0.1 ml distilled water?
For smelling you want to make it dry usually, so put 10mg in the bottle, put 0.1ml of water or nice fragrance
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I had quite long solipsistic experience in shroom at the new year festival,
I felt also super insanely angry but motivated, active, furious, and felt also divine and pleasant at the same time,I felt so sad, so sad but insanely gratitude and happy
I felt solipsistic, cause that others were like disorganized sub-mind or sub-processing unit, that are not part of my mind,
even though this shroom was not like going directly breakthrough, mushroom does not deconstruct my obsession about models and theories,
still shrooms, it felt insanely profound.I felt it was quite a breakthrough, it has impacted me for 3days just like I had 20mg of 5meodmt and intensely breathed for 3days straight.
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1 hour ago, OBEler said:Ok so I use 1 ml of distilled water and mix it with 10 mg 5 meo dmt and then put it in a very small bottle? And then I smell 3 seconds on the opened bottle?
yes,
also I dissolve every 5meo powder into vinegar(freebase) or water first, 1g into 10~50ml of vinegar.
as I know, 10mg per 0.1ml is solubility of 5meodmt
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3 hours ago, OBEler said:@Fluran how do you measure 0.5 mg?
With a 3 mg cup (around 1.5 mg 5 Meo)?
vaping stays too short and intense, so better not vaping for taking a nap,
spraying in the nose feels bit scary at the moment as It feels like losing consciousness, not having any dream. but it's also proper deep rest too.to be honest, for microdosing, including just smelling and spraying, has never been measured, that is to be measured,
just start with smelling, maybe prepare a 10mg of dissolved 5meodmt into a sealed container bottle, and smell from that, close it after you smell.
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DMT seems not regulated in Morocco, lol.