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Yes but the death realization has many facets. I realized many times that death is imaginary and that I'm immortal and eternal. However, it was not till I tried salvia that I crossed the gate of death to see that it's just a change of clothes. Most psychedelics can make you realize death is an illusion, but in my experience Salvia is the only one that can make you die before you die in a crude real way. Salvia is also called the Back Door of Death. I don't recommend you to try Salvia, just sharing my experience about the multifaceted nature of Death. You can have awaken to death being an illusion, you can have the experience of dying and you could possibly have both at the same time. Dying while realizing death is an ilusion. (Didn't happen to me, I cried like a baby)
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Davino replied to Holykael's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Beyond constructions and deconstructions of meaning there is reality and that is what we all are. It is more accurate to say that you are your own father and mother than to say they are constructions, not aware by themselves, as long as you say so. All modes of being and states are God and God alone. It's just yourself playing with yourself. Running in circles, it's a game, the only game, you have been awakening for infinity, that's what God does. Everything is a manifestation of God. You are manifested in all multiplicity and mind labyrinths, it's indeed a beautiful show to enjoy. Whatever reality is here, that is absolute, all contradictions and opposites included. In whatever way reality is behaving, it has it's own law. You are discovering interesting shapes of God but whatever Reality shapeshifts to, that is as itself as it could ever be, with it's according own law. The transgression of the law of reality where you find yourself in, is expensive, as well as forcing reality to shapeshift into certain states not understanding that God itself is what is now. -
Davino replied to effortlesslumen's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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Introduce yourself properly (days or weeks before the trip) so that everyone is comfortable with your presence. Otherwise, you can also just leave them or be much more outside the trip just checking now and then if they are okay. They are just going to have fun, listen to some music and trip in nature. It's not heavy stuff, everything should be fine as long as doses are LOW.
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Read a book by Ken Wilber or Douglas Hofstadter and try to get the same delivery through any other method. The highest quality communications can only be delivered through books or continuous, direct one-on-one teaching.
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Lol can you explain what are this substances? I just searched them but I would prefer your direct experience. About your question, I feel weed more expansive now. Like the whole world is high on weed not just me.
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Some men have gone to bathe in the sea. They have made up their minds to swim ahead of everyone else and, consequently, they will have to look back. He whose one and only goal is the ocean has nothing else to look at and nothing else to consider, and then, what is to be, will be. Give yourself up to the wave and you will be absorbed by the current - having dived into the sea you will not return. The Eternal Himself is the wave that floods the shore so that you may be immersed. Those, who can surrender themselves to this end will be accepted by Him. But, if your attention remains on the shore, you cannot proceed - after bathing you will return home. Aiming at the Supreme, at the ultimate, will lead you on through the movement of your true nature. There are waves that carry away and waves that bring back. Those who can give themselves up, will be taken by Him. In the guise of the wave, He holds out His hand and calls you: come, Come, COME.
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Wow, where to begin? This is not a drug, and I can't even say it's a psychedelic. It feels like sobering up from a dream. It's not a high feeling or a trip, it's how things are when you are conscious and alive. I am very surprised and happy about malt, this is what I had been searching for. It really feels like my natural awakenings there is not this mystical psychedelic vibe to it, there is just consciousness and you can become more conscious and more awake. It really has this property of this is how things are, this is natural, this is real. This is probably what has surprised me the most, the no-drug vibes no-tripping, just awakening, just consciousness. The other aspect that I should also mention is the energetic demands. So I went to a physiotherapist prior to my trip and during the trip I had to work through energetic blockages. There was some nausea but everything was fine. Malt has given me some LSD vibes in the sense of energetic amplification and the feeling of "unblock and heal" within my body/being. I expect, as I use more the substance, to clear myself up from all blockages. It is clear that this is not the purpose of the trip. It's something that happens to purify and evolve the vessel to host higher consciousness. Or even better said, that higher consciousness is trying to be manifested but it finds blockages in the human form that need to be worked out, to make the flow of consciousness without resistance. I enjoyed how stable and interconnected my mind was during the trip. The fact of being no mind but from a full active mind standpoint was extremely satisfactory. I'm very intellectual and I have to confess that I loved how pure, stable and holistic my mind was during the trip. Nothing to do with loopy thoughts of classic psychedelics. I had the consciousness and also accessed it by other methods but malt's clarity is outstanding. It's what you really want and not any distracting meaningless other phenomena going on. About plugging: It works great for me and I'll use it in the future. It's just mental resistance to put something in your ass but I didn't even notice it. It's easier than what you would think. It gave me some mild stomach discomfort but I don't know if it's just the malt, the working of energetic blockages or the plugging. Overall conclusion: This is the Holy Grail of my life's search. This is the tool that I'll be using in my work for years to come. Thank you Leo, you really made the difference.
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When in the mid of all this you practise sadhana in order to realize your Self, or rather, when by God’s Grace sadhana comes about, - for to be able to engage in sadhana is itself the Grace of God - then, after having worked through layers and layers of ignorance, you discover: "I am in fact the whole". I am - this is why there are trees and plants, and everything that exists, however manifold. Every single form is in fact "I". Where I am conscious of separateness, my natural expression is to want. Even in this condition, I am infinite. In the very form of the human body lie moods of endless variety and numberless modes of expression. Indeed, all existing forms are infinite, and I am likewise infinite. ~ WORDS OF SRI ANANDAMAYI MA TRANSLATED AND COMPILED BY ATMANANDA
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I haven't experienced fully any of that but I do have some clues. The no other experience seems very plausible, i've had some glimpses but I am aware that you can go magnitudes of order deeper. For me it has been just micromoments of everything is inside me, all is the same reality in different forms. I really enjoy the concept of solipsism, it gives me great peace but it's also hard to deal with it in a human sense, it all depends on the state of consciousness you are in. About time freezing this is something you should be able to access naturally. If you are progesing and becoming more conscious this happens in of itself. Deconstructing space is a much harder task but its also more mindbending. About walking on water, I would say not to focus on this type of contemplation. But for the sake of clarity I would like to make a distinction between siddhi and shakti. Siddhis manifest out of your spiritual work, like intense yoga, concentration, visualization, breathing... On the other hand, Shaktis manifest out of your own consciousness. You are in a extremely high state of consciousness and from that state you spontanously and efortlessly manifest something which does not fall into the constrictions of other states of consciousness. All has it's place in reality but this distinction can cut through many ilusions and dogma. The ideal would be to explore your own omnipotence as God.
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Yes, sure it will be a nice experiment. It's different than with classic psychedelics, I felt in my full capabilities but just much more conscious. I would be more grounded and loving in my iteractions with other people and probably feel much more connected to reality. It also has this sense of generated world, like you are in videogame that only loads your surrounding areas, well something like that but with consciousness generating the world up to your experience and there is nothing else outside, unless you imagine it so. I become aware of how I was imagining all that was not in the present experience but I did not become aware of how I was imagining the present moment or if that moment was truly being imagined, but there was a strong intuition that this was the case but the clear seeing of that reality didn't happen, more consciousness was needed.
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I get where you are coming from and the answers they have given you are very good, so let me try to give you this perspective. All abrahamic cultures have this false belief rooted in the shadows of their societies: "Your will and the universal will are different. There is a qualitative difference between both." This is wrong. The difference is only quantity not in quality. The universal mind just wills it more but is not different from you personal wills and desires. The universe is desiring through you as you. This is an abstract perspective that should be sobered up with the other answers to your question. But really think about it and discard that false belief, you will sudendly feel at ease with what you want and desire.
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Let me rephrase it: The fact of being in no mind but from a full active mind state was extremely satisfactory. It was the best moment of the trip for me. Imagine being in a moment of full mental activity and concentration but without thoughts. Normally no mind for me is this animal like state of being in the now and flowing but this time was radically different. Accessing no mind through consciousness was an eye opening experience. I only felt it once in my mushrooms+mdma trip but this time it was just more stable and clear. My mind was so iluminated that it was just soaking everything in, but silently, kind of like thinking without thoughts just rendering without the layer of symbolism.
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The chemical really fit with my system. The experience was strikingly similar to my spontaneous awakenings, and now I'm very curious to try 5-meo-dmt to see if that is what is causing them, as I have seen that it is produced naturally in the body. I felt very comfortable with the substance, it seemed familiar in many ways, not exotic like with classic psychedelics.
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It was nothing new; it was a deepening and more interconnected knowledge of my previous discoveries. All is consciousness sure, but how interconnected is your consciousness? All is imaginary sure, but are you aware of how you are doing that? So I became conscious of the infinite narratives that I was spawning behind each moment to explain the present experience that was happening. I had this insight before, but the definition and understanding of how this process is unfolding up to its microscopic level really recontextualizes everything. I also felt metaphysical love which is very different from emotions, I would explain it as an embracement of what is, but I really don't have that much of experience to articulate it well. It was not ecstasy or bliss; it was just abstract love independent of the content, so the love could not be another content. Probably the most shocking understanding was about awakening, understanding what that word means or points to. It felt like all my life I had been severely drunk and now I finally had sobered up from that confusion. It felt a lot like that, it's a really accurate description. Extra points for Malt: The afterglow is gorgeous. My mind has been able to lock and make permanent some of the features of the trip. My mind's stability has been improved significantly, I don't know if this will be temporary or it will go away, but it feels that some of it will definitely stay. Yes you are right scientifically speaking it's very safe in this regard. However, in subjective experience it's opening another can of worms. Don't you feel overwhelmed and exhausted after 8h of intense sensory amplification? At least I do.
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LSD has not the potential I have seen to malt. The problem with lsd is that it will burn out your sensory input at high doses, which is not something I'm interested in. Maybe LSD could be more overwhelming in this sense but malt is just years ahead in terms of raw consciousness and clarity. It's a much more evolved and refined experience. LSD is just inefficient for killing the ego in comparison with malt or salvia. The ego can resist in all experiences. I would find it much easier to surrender to an ego death in malt than in lsd. I didn't feel the need. Yes, I'm usually more square minded and analitic in my trip reports but I wanted to share the bigger picture of my experience rather than the explicit details. This report was my initial thoughts about malt. Indeed, there is a lot. Martin has a great book talking about non dual therapy with 5-meo. It sometimes feels like working through a lot of stuff before getting to the point that I really want to arrive. However, I'm grateful that I can deal with all those blockages in a much more efficient way than if I were to do it all just by self-help. Kind of strange, it went very smoothly but it also felt a bit difficult to get all of my self to be in the same page if you get what I mean. In general I struggle also with the come up phase but the plugging made it very gentle and progressive. It's about the acclimatization of the body in the end.
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I have a few questions: 1: Is it necessary to have empty stomach even when snorting? 2: Can I dose multiple times during the same trip? (I plan to go up progresively. First plugged and then if I want more to snort it) 3: What is a bit more than a testing dose? Is 5mg good to start or too little? 4: What would be the problems of taking more Malt than what you can handle? Is it too intense, the body-load, resistance, freaking out, ungroundedness, ego death..? What is the main characteristic? 5: Why is plugging much better than snorting? 6: How long do the outer signs of drug consumption last? (Pupils...) 7: Any advice for a first timer? (I have tried psychedelics but all I read is that nothing can prepare you, just surrender. I would like more elaboration please) Any advice as I plan to focus now the 5-meos in contrast with the general advice given for the other psychedelics?
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Now I get it. Because I used to be into vaping some years ago and now I can see how with the E-mesh you can smoke it. I'll try it in the future 100% thank you. Btw, I also heard someone in the forum saying that they took malt sublingually. Is that possible? If so why nobody is talking about it?
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Candy flip will be to intense to do any human work probably. My advise is that classic psychedelics can be a bit too much to deal with repressed feelings. They will open up the box of pandora. Honestly I would go for MDMA, 2CB and Ketamine.
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I also don't understand when people talk about vaping it vs smoking it. How do you vape it in contrast with just puting it into a pipe and smoking it?
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@Leo Gura I remember you talked about a technique to snort better, something about putting your head on the ground while in the couch or something like that. I'm not a native english speaker and I just couldn't get to visualize the technique to do the snorting. Also what about the water for plugging, has it to be distilled water or it can be regular bottled water? What is the best option?
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So I've been reading his book called: Entheogenic liberation: unraveling the enigma of nonduality with 5-meo-dmt energetic therapy and also have read half of his book called Being Infinite: an entheogenic odyssey into the limitless eternal: a memoir from ayahuasca to zen. As well as Leo's interview and some of his youtube videos. My reflection has been the following: it's obvious that Martin understands all ins and outs of the 5-meo experience and has a lot of experience with entheogens and specially 5-meo-dmt. However, it's clear for me that he's not awake, I mean he got it right in the bigger picture: I am God and everything is God, all is the one, non duality and crazy levels of love. However, he does not understand Reality, infinite Consciousness or have experienced the insane levels of Awakening that Leo talks about. This really leaves me puzzled in regards of how should I use psychedelics and specially the 5-meos for Awakening and God. If such a sincere and honest individual like Martin with tones of experience has not been able to progress that far, what makes the difference in terms of awakening with psychedelic substances? What have you done different from everybody else Leo? It also really discomforts me his strong attitude against spirituality, religion, metaphysics, beliefs and systems but then comes out with his own system, metaphysical assumptions and a way of doing non dual therapy based on bilateral symmetric movements and the liberation from the energetic prison of the ego. Maybe it all depends in what we are interested in. I don't know if I'm that interested in the liberation of the ego, but I know I'm interested in Truth and I have not experienced myself as God, but if that is the case I'm also interested in going to the deep end of my Godhood.
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“At the supreme summit of Love; exuberance, excessive emotion and the like cannot possibly occur. Emotional excitement and Supreme Love are in no ways to be compared. They are totally different from one another.” ~ Anandamayi Ma