A Fellow Lighter

Okay, the sofa is blue.

Apparently, imagination is my direct experience, so I'm being told. I'm not trying to understand how creation is love. I'm trying to understand how creation is dream, and know that you mention it, a “game” as well. What is so amusing about learning to love and then losing what you've learned to care about, like your family and friends? Why would I want to play such a game with myself?

Er.. not exactly. Is that a yes? You're dreaming the same dream?

@Anahata what about you? Are you also having the same dream as I am?

Why does there appear to be a separation, why is does my waking dream have continuity where else my night dreams change every night?

Isn't this a bit self-contradictory? You speak as is the dreams are more fundamental then the dreamer.

Why? If it's all just a dream then why does it morph, why the two sets of dreams?

@Seeker10304 link?

Yeah, but I'm not imagining you type the words, you're doing that all on your own. Aren't you? Besides, even if my direct experience is imagination, the world doesn't cease to exist simply because I shut my eyes and fell asleep. Actualized.org members would still be on this forum talking about whatever they'll be talking about.

This is vague. Are you saying everything is my imagination, including your actions? We must not be using the same semantics in talking about God. For me, God is that which rules over every beingness, there is nothing greater or beyond this. And for me, Love is God - Love is the highest power. I don't consider myself different or apart from that which is God. I merely use the term God as recognition of the highest power - not as recognition of a being apart from me. I do not define that which is God, I recognise it. Love is God. Most people aren't truly awakened to this truth, they genuinely don't recognise what love is. So when I'd speak to someone about it, I'd use the word care instead of love. Then teaching becomes easier, for everybody knows what it is to care. Principle or Power? I don't see love to be a principle as there is nothing to compare it with. Instead, I see it as the Power of Creation rather than principle of Creation. It is the source. There is much of creation that is outside our awareness, my friend. Thus, we have a lot to awaken to in our journey of self-realisation. The key is love: the more we care is the more we grow aware. Only s/he who cares - learns. However, there is nothing that is beyond Creator's knowledge, for knowledge is existence and existence is knowledge.

Okay, so what is it?

@YeahIam yeah, the insight is that you're stuck. I mean, why else would you feel stuck if you weren't stuck? This is a common case of spiritual stagnation. Your intuition doesn't betray you, my friend. So, why are you stuck?

Yes, I understand that. The question here is.. if I am here, in the now, and I am God dreaming up everything, then, what exactly is it that you (yes, very much in my mind as you're saying) doing? What is @Inliytened1 doing/occupied with, when I'm doing all the work - imagining things, as you say?

Do you know how God is love? Have you truly awakened to that truth, or have you only rationalised it to be so? If not then let this not be your stance in questioning the seemingly dark nature of reality, for this will yield no fruit. Rather ask why is there suffering if you wish to learn why it is, in deed, here. Or, you may ask how is God love if that is your main query.

@Inliytened1 but.. okay, so if I am here, and I am God dreaming up this entire reality, then what are you doing?

Depends on what you mean by “nothing”. What I've come to learn is that the substance of all matter is vibration. And that every state of consciousness (stable or dreamlike) is stationed by a vibration's frequency. The weaker the frequency, the more dissipative and fleeting everything in reality is; the stronger the frequency, the more steady and stable everything is. Now you could say that the vibration is nothing because you awoke to its infinitude - that is the multidimensional nature of vibration. Otherwise to say that beneath creation is nothing would be to negate much needed for you to awaken to. It is only no-thing because it is without finitude - vibration is infinite and whole, from every point of observance.

There are no weak or strong pursuits in life. There is only individualisation - individuals pursuing their individuality via freewill. The pursuit of “material matter” is merely the pursuit of energy - that which enables your individualisation. So, the first thing that I will suggest here is for you to surrender that distinction you've imagined between “material matters” and spiritual matters. Are all things not energy? Does money not enable you? Surrender this idea of material matter, for it is not serving you, but feel free to keep it if it serves you. May your will prove strong. ?? Learn Lighter, do not simply meditate, let the energy flow. If you are doubtful then learn the source of this doubt. Lying to yourself only results in more of the chaos. We only ever do what we will, Lighter. Any distortion of this simply results in chaos within one's self. Why must “spiritual realisation” be different from freedom to do as you please? To realise your spiritual nature is to realise your freedom, Lighter. Spirit is like wind, it cannot be tamed or bound by any other force, lest it wills so. In this creation, one only ever is and does what s/he is willing to be and do. This is Law. @Rokazulu you can be most certainly sure that you are doing, and can only ever work, your will. There is no way around it, for this is Law. Therefore I suggest you surrender the story you tell yourself about you having a primary and secondary and tertiary and etc pursuits. There is only one purpose in life, and that is enlightenment, this is not primary - it is unitary. Absolutely every being is working this will in accordance with its individuality. Should you continue to imagine these distinctions then of course there will appear to be “no real focus” in anything that you do. Is it not clear enough that in your seeking to commune with individuals of a certain vibration that your life has most certainly a real objective. Your very being tells you this, but you struggle to receive the message in all the fog you create in your consciousness with your imagination.

I'm afraid you misunderstand the point of the challenge, Lighter. And this is simply because you still have a lot to be conscious of. My friend, in this life are only two moments in which you're most alive: one is a moment of mild to wild pleasure; the other is a moment of mild to wild pain. It is certainly only in these two moments when you're highly highly conscious of what it truly is to be alive. In between these two moments is what I call meditation. With that being said, suffering is merely one quality out of three qualities of what is called “experience”. Each is self-induced. Suffering is not inevitable, it is qualiated by the mind. Then you have made Suffering your God, my friend. God, in the creation of life, has only ever said, “Let there be light.” Thus, the purpose of life has only ever been enlightenment. The challenge is not to endure any kind of suffering, nor is it to outgrow form of any kind, that is to say we may be human for as long as we wish to be human, for all is the expression of Creator, none better than the other. No, the only challenge in life is to work our will, for Work is Law. It is Law because it reflects truth - truth of who you are, who you are willing to be. One only ever is or does what s/he is ever willing to be or do. This is the gift and law of freewill.

Those seconds of utter terror ? ?????? It is more than possible to become even clearer. Our work is that of energy-patterns, in this light, we are more likely to behave in, and perceive, the world as we most frequently tended to. The only thing is breaking this pattern in order to initiate and develop a more encompassing energy-pattern. The principle is work. So yes, after that moment of awakening you're most likely to get moved/carried away again by the momentum of your dominant, everyday life, waves of energy-patterns that you've built up this far in your life. This is what karma actually is. This is not anything like a fault on your side, it is simply truth - Work is Law. We receive only what we are willing to receive, learn only that we are willing to learn. And it is this very freedom of will that must be reflected by your work. So don't be discouraged, brother, and instead strive even further towards the Light, for it is truly beautiful.

Is your cousin getting professional help? You mentioned some doctor having confirmed his illness. Is s/he also treating him? My primary advice is professional help.

@Insane butterfly that is just excellent ?

This has to be the most confusing thing I've ever read in my life ? What does the term “God” mean to you? What do you know it referring to? If I may ask

So .. if you know that you're not in control, what is it that you fear losing, exactly?

My mind is this entire room that I perceive a self (myself) to be inhibiting.

You can't, you are always in the know. Your “pee angels” are the evidence of that, so long as you understand that you're the mind, whether asleep or awake.