BlueOak

Most influences in this world are aligned with keeping the world separated and divided. I would say this is because those people are divided and separated, so it is a self-perpetuating cycle. You will hear it as a common thread through all discussions here, through all media, through all politics, through how language is structured. Most things start at language, which frames how we interact with and shape the world. If you want the single biggest lever to what you want to achieve here, look at the language. Look at your language. You can see Tony Robbins discuss it when he says to ask a better quality of question, for example, rather than why can't I do something, ask how can I do something. This basic adjustment changes the approach and the intended response. To achieve more of what you are looking to do. We must look at how we divide ourselves through language rather than come together. This not only starts us off in the right place but means we are correcting ourselves through use of language, which shapes, or forms thought and self-identity. What you've done here for example in the diagram/model is divide up what should be one. So you've started off with the division you want to heal. These arrows should be arriving at the same place or should be a combined arrow in the end, so all parts of human nature come together on any one issue.

You should be more concerned about the continued mobilization of Religion as a Political Tool. If that continues it will keep increasing in political significance. For anyone who says it already is, yes and it's getting more so in America. Using an assigned set of fixed, almost immovable morale values imposed over the population, will eventually cause greater and greater sources of civil disturbance from those who don't share these values. If the percentage of the country is large enough to reject them. The aim is to split the country on issues that don't affect those in power or cost them money. They have realized on many issues religion doesn't, so its safe to use as a dividing factor for the population's two-party system to argue about. It stops you all from focusing on things that might affect their power (money). Same with personality politics, scandals etc.

You are making a false equivalency. Nowhere in this discussion did anyone suggest anything like this was going on. This means the exaggeration doesn't help find the truth, it clouds the issue and means we will be (and are) discussing something completely unrelated to it. This one problem with personality politics, it rarely has much truth to it. Where did I say there was no room to criticize? I have been myself in a few posts. There is a huge difference between tolerating child abuse and disagreeing with a spiritual teacher's methods or manner, and if you are trying to argue otherwise, I don't know what to tell you. The advice of taking what helps you and leaving the rest, doesn't in any way negate criticism. It does however get you free of being hung up on seeing someone fail or fall because you disagree with their methods. I've seen countless people over all walks of life (including myself) insist others do things their way, and when they don't they take the mindset that everything about the teacher/politician/idea/subject etc is worthless, worse that they need to somehow take a fall. Life is rarely black and white like that unless you are using a gross exaggeration as you are.

You can always use hyperbole to make a point seem reasonable. It doesn't make it applicable in everyday life. People on mass are not going around listening to teachers who rape their students or tolerating it.

Couldn't agree more, i've thought about this time and time again, from politics to spirituality, to social issues. You have put it into a context of how I feel about much of life. People's need to see other's fall when they find disagreement, is reflected in all walks of life. Especially when there is no better alternative someone can point me to, its detrimental to the collective rather than helping it. I've been guilty of it myself in the past.

It's all about finding the balance between radical elements of social change driving it, and pulling it back with standards like this. It does overly limit the actions someone can take outside of the established social structure, but I've accepted the word cult is collectively being used as a pressure release for seeing change develop, and that's healthy. One more point emotional outbursts are healthy. Very healthy if you are paying attention. Part of teals work encourages them and not everyone is comfortable with that, and that's fine. I put myself fully into her work when I was doing it, and indeed this post knowing i'd learn something, and I did. That over three or four posts on different topics I have/had a problem with social suppression, more than it deserved. Part of stage green showing :D. Hopefully, this has corrected it in me to see it as more of a necessary dynamic. Gratitude.

Her social intelligence is not her strong point as demonstrated here, and that I've always had a problem with, or found flaws in. I agreed above that her name and personality is too front and center to not avoid things like this, so in that I do agree with the psychologist. I also agree with him that she does push people, and I liked that trait, because ten years ago I was far too stagnate in my own misery, I wore it like a cloak. By following her completion process I managed to work through some issues, and it was uncomfortable and it did push me and I was alone. Because I could not afford a therapist. So let's be frank. Where are all these free therapists for people? It's alright pulling one of the few sources down, but who is replacing it? Because the people that need therapy the most can never afford it in the first place, so again we stagnate as a society. If you have a link to someone who is more emotionally intelligent than teal swan, I would genuinely like to follow them. I've never found them. In which case who is meant to mentor her on that aspect of life? I'm sure someone out there exists but it's such an underdeveloped topic we could use more references. Some leaps of judgement, in that someone has an argument, and now supposedly they don't want anyone around them that questions them? Well then why or how was there an argument? He contradicts himself on this point, as an argument can only come from two opposing viewpoints. As for emotions and regulating them, that's unhealthy in itself for a frank discussion in this sort of setting. You want your emotions on as a guide. That's the point of her work. This is not a professional setting where a standard of behavior needs to be met, it seems to be a small group of people chatting together. Yes you do need to figure out who you are. I don't know where he got 'damn the world' from, but we need a certain amount of damn the world to change it. This is another example of how we are losing or have lost the drive to change, it needs a certain amount of radical thinking or action which says damn the status quo.

Never called you stage orange at all. I don't profess to know anything about you other than this post. The orange comment was how a business operates free from this type of PR nightmare, with often far more powerful and dangerous people running them. By using her name she's brought some of this on herself to deal with operating in this type of environment. I am saying you are trying to label someone a cult leader who has been helpful to millions because you don't like how she operates. Because some people have chosen to hang on every word she says. People express love for her, because she's speaking to areas of themselves that are neglected or unloved, and when you do that a reaction is common, it's called transference. It happens to many therapists for example and they have clear guidelines how to deal with it. That's their issue, in their psyche. Over an audience of millions gaining some unstable students or people following her work is going to happen, especially because a percentage of people go to teachers like this because they are suicidal. Sure you could tell her to distance herself more from them and address it more, that might be valid. Work on boundaries in her videos for her students, but she'd be needing to reinforce that on a regular basis for it to be effective. I see this word cult thrown around all the time for anything, and it's getting to the point it's ridiculously overused, and part of the reason no change is happening in society anymore. It's one more tool of suppression in the collective psyche. I could have been nicer in how I phrased this, and I apologize for that, but it doesn't change how much I hate this.

People aren't all aspiring to be a better person, this is your goal I assume? It's not for a lot of people. You apply morals to use them to guide you, a lot of people don't. Some people even go as far as to celebrate immorality or excess, or breaking the rules even or especially because they know it's wrong. I would say it's a spectrum you are looking at, not a black or white response.

In a purely orange society. She's forced into defending her public perception because she's using a personal identity to sell herself. Most people in business use a label that can be branded, and separate themselves from the product, eventually the company or just rebranding itself constantly to avoid the bad PR. Nobody is perfect and it builds up, people pull videos from 10 years ago and say SEE SEE. It's honestly sad how a public figure is framed by their three worst videos, rather than their 500 average to good ones. You'll focus in on that with your bias, and say that's her, because it suits your bias for that to be the truth. The truth is a person is a hugely complex thing and should be judged on their entire history if at all. As for ex-members leaving in terrible shape. She will break down your identity and ego, as will most teachers worth anything. You will have crisis like this if you do this work. I have twice. If you can't handle it, let life teach it to you more slowly. Also people do get in terrible shape all by themselves, to say she's responsible for their psyche or life entirely is to assign her powers that simply don't exist. Now my own bugbear. 'Cult' the term universally applied to anyone who has even a thought that isn't in line with what society says you should have. Don't dare form a group that acts outside social norms, tries alternative solutions, or even forms a way of life that isn't a 9-5 robotic way of life enslaved to billionaires, you'll be flooded with messaging like his. I have little bias towards Teal. I watch her time to time, her videos on inner emotional work helped me a decade ago. Her videos on society in general I have/had a lot of issues with. Yet this programming you have in your mind to call something outside of your experience a cult always infuriates me.

Re monogamy and polyamory People need different things, especially on this topic, because it's very personal to each. I could list them all and I started to but we'd be here forever.

No. I never cheat and will never cheat. It all depends on you what you need from a relationship and if Monogamy is important then that's what it is. People do change over the course of their lifetime, and sometimes sadly the new people they become don't have the same passion or love that you both found to start with. They find this difficult to communicate, for obvious reasons, and it can mean they become attracted to a different type of person. This usually happens more often when you are younger and changing more rapidly but not exclusively. It sounds like this is very important to you, so don't give up on looking for it.

I'm going to quote tony robbins here as I agree with him on this. There are different ways people express love for each other, sometimes its verbal, sometimes its touch, sometimes gifts, and sometimes its an experience or being there. All these things people are telling you to do, depend on him. There is usually one that strikes a chord stronger than the rest. Like how someone says a word or name a particular way, or an especially romantic trip, or the way you hold them, or that you know them well enough to get them a touching gift. For me it's touch. A touch on the arm, a hug, etc. That would be how to initiate or for someone to begin to show interest. You are beginning to know him, but if you need to tick all the boxes, its words, being there with him, it's a personalized gift, and its the way you might touch his arm or hug him. Hope it helps.

Why would they cease to exist automatically? I also think you underestimate people's awareness of their own more obvious flaws. At least where I live you won't find anyone saying they are perfect. If you recognize you are flawed, and everyone is, it doesn't fix your flaws without a great deal of effort that most people won't put in.

Every word is a stored duality you then tell to others or yourself. In this case it's a biased shared set of behaviors for people to, hopefully, collectively have a better quality of life. The individualist in me also chuckled when I read the title. Because to the individual ego to be told to act counter to itself in someone else's bias, is naturally resisted, for the collective to be healthy it's very important to have a collective set of morals. It helps mend disagreement, or avoid conflict in the first place.

Encourage their development, which is part of education, being a good parent or teacher. Every interaction changes your consciousness and theirs. What values they take on will be from their starting consciousness, parents, society, then experience and choices. Usually you can't help anyone do anything directly unless you've established trust, they've left their ego at the door (a comedian for example), or they've come to you seeking your help or advice. That doesn't mean this interaction here for example is wasted, you'll take what makes sense to your conscious life experience and use or not use it. Sometimes something that has been said will come back to mind, even if you didn't accept it the first time, and all of it is now in your subconscious to help you relate and form references in the future. Nothing heard is ever completely wiped from experience even if it's heavily suppressed or avoided, everything even what you hate has a purpose. But then you are probably more open to this than most, because you are on a personal development forum and have come to among other things learn or better yourself perhaps. You are not completely cutting yourself off from learning from other perspectives, otherwise you'd probably leave here and go live in a comfortable bubble. You could focus on learning with a child. Leo and others have for example said to fall in love with learning, if a child or someone who trusts you can begin to do that, in their own way, they will be set for life of personal or professional development and adaptation. I don't distinguish morality from experience to be clear. Experience often forms morality even if it has to drag you across it the hard way. Everyone grows painfully or peacefully.

Any nutritionist worth a damn. https://nutritiondata.self.com/ As long as you are getting what your body needs and not overcooking your food to a crisp, then you are getting what your body needs. That link is one I used to use when I was in the industry to suggest foods as supplements, it breaks down what each food has in detail.

No. Trust is very important to me, and I respect myself too much. I do think you need to discuss what you both want in any relationship, and what you expect. I understand some people prefer open or casual relationships and if that was agreed that would be okay. I'd also like to make sure someone could be secure in our relationship so they can talk to me. If they needed something else emotionally, sexually or physically from me we could discuss that for example, every so often make sure they know you are thinking of them and ask. If you are making sure your partner and you are both satisfied and happy in the relationship, and then they still can't keep their pants on, I wouldn't be with that person. I would feel a strong sense of betrayal and I don't handle betrayal well. I wouldn't even discuss it with them, I'd be out the door. I would not stay with her either for the kids, that'd be a toxic hellhole and I've lived through enough of that.

Yes. We often judge the immediate stage outside of our own development, because we are moving out of it, finding reasons why its no longer complete. Without that opposing drive, we'd just stay in that state of mind/body. Judgment is necessary but its useless without yellows individual solutions following it, and yellow doesn't give a complete picture, without understanding the complete picture is everything in Turquoise, or the pure selfless intent of love in stages after that. Further, we tend to be in different stages depending on who we are interacting with, and in different areas of our lives. For example, in interaction with orange, green will display its conflict with the individualist drive, in interacting with purple it will reconsider aspects of harmony found in nature it's left behind till now. Imagine though you are in stage orange fully. You would see others below you as lesser, perhaps of less 'value', and so entering green you will be carrying that with you until you see how all the stages are important, and (eventually) all perspectives carry their own value to the whole. You'll believe you know better than anyone else because you see/feel things they don't. You won't necessarily see how without orange the wheels of life would not turn, and without the drive inherent in orange you'll be left drifting. Many of us need to be humbled. I feel greens rebel against orange somewhat and create a shadow or absence of it, I've seen that so often in others and myself I think it's a natural reaction to mend. Picture the man or woman who is socially conscious, but has no security in his/her life, I don't mean someone who is self-sufficient, but someone who has to live off others to survive.

I think you were harsh on violet there, she was giving you the path that most materialist countries need to take to adjust. By alienating those who would try to help you'll get nowhere. A step to be free of overt materialism where it exists is recycling and using second-hand goods. Minimalism and using less or being self-sufficient where possible is the step after that. Another way is to address the need people have to fill loneliness or a lack of driving purpose with items/stimuli. Taking the premise that most are of average consciousness. People grow up in the society they are born in and take on the values they are presented with. They are that group consciousness. Occasionally making small changes along the way from experience. To take the great leap you want from a materialist lifestyle doesn't happen often, and I honestly doubt your country would be all that different in the same place. Sure there are contrarian individuals like me that will agree, that the only way to achieve what you want is to fight yourself and your own need to consume, or the animal instinct present in all people, which is how you become more spiritual over lifetimes. In spiritual texts it would be called the beast or animal, the only failing in some texts is they look outside of themselves for it. All the so-called second-world countries that develop into first-world countries are the same because they follow the same pattern. The more they get the more they want. Because that's who those people are. It all comes from their own body. I would love to be out there now in a mass protest against materialism and corporate greed. But protest and organizing as groups were suppressed and the population diverted or programmed away from them decades ago. Protest itself is a dirty word, and rendered largely ineffectual by law, because it doesn't target the billionaires in positions of power, it targets their middle-management politicians. Whereas gatherings of social change are considered radical fringe elements at best and cults at worst. If you want effective social change start looking at where the efforts of that change are capped or stopped. The great effort put into labelling people outside of normal social structure as bad, wrong or ill in some form. Looking at online surveillance, censoring, laws on protest or social reform, and the many societal structures that prevent you from actually influencing people of power. The ones with the actual power, those with vast amounts of money. Billionaires - With actual power. Law - Protecting them Politicians - Taking all the credit/blame. Giving you leaders to root for or hate. Political Delusion - Splitting the populace into two or more groups to argue with each other. Its so bad at this point, not only do we have a layer of focus away from people with wealth and power towards politicians, but we have a great illusion going on that people are arguing with themselves below that. They've been divided up, and to hold that division two entirely separate sets of facts are released, that are contrary to each other, it's a brilliant and sadistic manipulation that is three layers deep. You'll see it on this very forum on all manner of important topics.

Of course it is my own bias. That was the point of that ending comment to highlight it, if you speak to thousands of people at once with whom you have no connection or relation you will get a wide variety of responses for a wide variety of reasons, of which you have no idea about or why. People who work for a newspaper that shapes their entire public perception via words should know this, I'm sure there are even professional guidelines about how they should act on their public twitter accounts. People can post whatever they want. Then they see the consequence. Specifically, if we make a joke about mental disorders like bipolar, BPD or maniac depression etc, over an audience of thousands, it's likely to trigger people in a wide enough group size. I realize this was a tame joke but the point still stands.

I think it is useful for a business to reach customers. Just treat it like that.

Always two identities being used to argue over. Whether it's collective or individual. It's human nature to seek the division out and give it meaning. After the meaning is found out, the quicker it reintegrates into normality the better. We have our two sides, so we can have our battle and people can take a stand. That's what's important to some, the argument itself, or winning or losing. Feeling good that they got to speak their minds, or connect to others that think like them. People can recycle something as long as there is any friction there. It does a fraction of the damage cable TV does, while allowing communities to form connections more easily. It still has the inherent problem(s) like He/she who speaks loudest gets seen the most. Things stay up or around longer than they should, because it's a wider audience than it naturally would be, someone is always available for comment. Manipulation is easy to an audience of thousands, you get so much feedback that it just takes one idea to run with from the feedback. Text words are flat, they have no context or emotion, you are usually replying to half the story or a stranger thousands of miles away, with a history or community you know nothing about. Mob mentality happens in collective communication like this. That's just off the top of my head. I don't use it because I don't have a business or group identity I belong to, and I think personal communication is better in person. But I also cannot name many places where social orientated discussion or change happens so *shrug*, in that respect, it's a necessity.

Take the events that drag you down into animal behavior the most and eliminate them from your life, or reform them to be more mindful/conscious. That'll eliminate the lowest points of your day. The densest and most unsubtle where you are aware of very little. Work on integrating the pieces of your emotions/psyche that are hurting, or in pain. Spend time in the emotions that hurt the most, so you are not pushing them away and welcome those parts of you back to yourself. To stretch the higher states: Find teachers that are in higher conscious states and listen to them. This might be enough on its own. Visit them if you can. These are the ones I am currently watching: Acharya Prashant, Mooji, Mantak Chia, Innerstanding (Sevan), Leo, Teal Swan. If you are more mathematically orientated, Daniel Winter was a nice man. If you want a very loving shaman, Almine. Understand they are not perfect interpretations of your reality bubble, none of them, be aware of their flaws in the wider context of your life, but listen now and again because they all have wisdom to share. Have a want to see more than one side of something, and understand everything is you (so there are no sides). Realise that you perceive, interpret and assign meaning to everything in life. Once you've got that understand that you are always reacting to the meaning you've assigned to that thing. So you are reacting to yourself, always. Find out what will neutralise something not just add to it, develop that as a skill. Love. Value existence. Love all you can whenever you can. Show gratitude, Joy. Learn to put your hands together and generate gratitude, joy, and love. Tell people you love and are grateful for them. This raises you out of the base states of consciousness by itself. Because you are loving yourself and experiencing the benefits of that love/joy or gratitude. Work with the body's energy. It's universal, anyone can do it. For me that's kundalini yoga and Taoist energy practices. This will raise your awareness of yourself. Detox. Remove all the dense metals and toxins interfering with your body/mind. Do this often, and understand that each organ passes on the waste to the next one in the body. There are some detox's that take this into account, or just do it yourself, taking a week for each organ with herbs and supplements for it. This sounds more dramatic than it is. Remove death from your life. Ask yourself if what you are doing is life or if its death. You can do this with almost anything, even mundane things like your daily routine or working. Are you feeling like it's draining you or others around you of life, or enriching and giving it? Eat more raw foods that are whole and uncut. You are energy if you want more awareness you need more energy. Its spent all its life growing into that perfect form for a reason. The second you cut, or cook it, you miss the energy release, and it starts to bleed out or diminish. The longer something is cooked the less it is. You could also go for supplements like etherium black, etherium gold, or alpha brain. I don't recommend relying on these, but using them for short periods to achieve something like dream recall worked wonders for me. Dream recall, practice listening to your subconscious. There is the waking state and the dream one, they are sometimes in chaos trying to communicate with each other sometimes. Try to bridge any gap that exists before things have to hit you head on in the real world to see them. People have a gut feeling, and instinct, sometimes a nagging thought about act. This is the same thing. Don't take dreams at face value, look for meanings and patterns. Do this in everyday life start to look for subtle rather than the obvious. Start to realise how things interconnect or relate. Realise that its all being shown to you for a reason and there are clues in every experience as to larger patterns and messages you are sending yourself subconsciously. Remove all electrical appliances from your bedroom and where you meditate. Keep the space as clear energetically as you can, burn some white sage now and again, or use a tibetan bell. We are all frequency, and we influence ourselves by influencing that frequency, sound healing is incredibly powerful to stabilize our body's fields, get rid of music that has no harmony to it, try solfeggio music, or music retruned at 528hz. Clear your spaces, and organize your rooms. Make the out like you want the in to be. Everything is based on the body so what you are outside comes from what you are inside. This is why we and everything around us lives in cycles of the same thing over and over, because we don't fundamentally change who we are. I used to think this was only mind or emotion but no it's body too, because body/mind/emotion are all the same thing. Love and Gratitude to you all. Hope it helps!

Just make sure you get a wide selection of vegetables and don't overcook them. Steam them so more of what you need still exists. If you can eat the occasional raw vegetable do it, if not get some salads too. If you are going to fry all your veg, grill or overcook them then yes I imagine that is where people get into problems.