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BlueOak replied to Muhammad Jawad's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Muhammad Jawad When the urge to overeat comes up, stay with that feeling instead of eating it away. Go sit with it, feel what its telling you. Be there for it. Help it. Learn from it. Protect it. Let it protect you. Comfort it. These are merely examples. If an image comes to you, visualize the image or part of you it is. If it's an emotion instead, go with that. Trust you'll know what to do. If you need help this book worked for me: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Completion-Process-Practice-Yourself-Together/dp/1401951449 It sounds like you are aware of two personalities. Its likely there'll be many pieces of you, and sometimes these patterns or behaviors conflict. Much of her work is about the integration of these personalities, and the last short video here is about ego work. The AND consciousness as she described, as it might help you also. I like to, as the book instructs, spend time with a personality as i've discussed, really feel what its telling you and understand the message, and only if it wants to slowly integrate it to the whole (adult me) visually and feeling it complete in the emotional body. You might find it held in some area of the body. Often it's a childhood part of you being protected by the protective personality you are experiencing, so I'd treat it with care. Though it could in your case be two adult voices that you've heard somewhere, maybe family, society, role models, or close friends, and you have conflicting messages attached to food or freedom to eat. So you could meditate on what food and eating means to you. I often disagree with Teal but rarely on the internal world. *If there is any mistrust or resistance that comes up, I assure a pattern/piece/personality two things. 1, It can remain a piece of you as long as it likes, 2, By becoming you, it can express itself through you any time it wants in alignment with the rest of you. -
BlueOak replied to Muhammad Jawad's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The first part of your message I aligned with, this part I completely flip on its head. A flow state can be experienced by anyone. Being stuck can be experienced by anyone. Increased awareness might mean you can get in the flow more easily, so does drive, ambition, success, luck, or a positive outlook. I'd caution an absolute view, because otherwise, for example, you could well have an experience you consider unconscious and thus negative in some form. You could remain blocked for a year, not realising the block was the point, or the acceptance of X was the point, or or or, do you understand? An absolute view of anything is only ever going to get challenged or hinder you one day. By your definition, I am the least awake or aware person on Earth. I mean that almost literally, you will not find someone so far out of a flow state than me, that has incredible difficulty manifesting anything at all other than the act itself. So I take that to mean I must appreciate the act for what it is, not the result, with your view the lesson I have to repeat until I (love/accept/integrate it) would be missed. -
BlueOak replied to MellowEd's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The elements created this body. Specifically a biological reaction. You are looking at this in reverse. Infinity doesn't start or end with the human ego's dictation of what it wants or can create. If it did, I would be a trillionaire and we would be colonizing Mars tomorrow. I am a fractal pattern of the universe that is repeated by consciousness, repeated within myself. -
BlueOak replied to Sucuk Ekmek's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Cable news will rot your brain if you listen to it too much. A civil war requires millions of people willing to organize and kill their neighbors. Most would understandably not want war, but if its on your doorstep with those you love or know dying, its 100 times worse meaning even fewer people will want such a thing. Nobody speaking truthfully like this has been in any kind of conflict, they are talking heads paid to sensationalize news. What the Republicans want is two-fold, to portray Biden as 'not the safe candidate or milk toast candidate' that middle America votes for, and use radicals or fear as a way to pressure for more control over their own states. The idiocy in this is it could either reignite a movement to split the US up or normalize political violence, and then they will say 'oh not us we just happened to say words that people took seriously'. This passive-aggressive way of using people is manipulative and dangerous. This is a more sober view, from an actual combat veteran with experience of border issues. I don't always agree with him but here he breaks down who has authority sensibly and who can or cannot do what. -
BlueOak replied to Loveeee's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Also, I see the patterns i've been in that affected others. From hurting or harming someone, from the times I rescued someone from abuse, or cowardly ghosted them because of depression. Both of those things help/harming led to that person realising more of who they are, boundaries being established or marriage to a more healthy guy. This was especially evident when I worked in natural foods, or had a spiritual group was I able to go to. One was coming for answers and I could connect several relevant dots, the other group was open and listening naturally to each other directly wanting spiritual experiences or observations. -
BlueOak replied to Loveeee's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
How did each of us get here? Was it a collection of experiences that included other people? It doesn't have to be, but there are usually others involved in some form. For me it started at childhood, I see all the patterns that brought me here, and they involved a lot of others along the way. -
BlueOak replied to jdc7733's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I'd question what saying everything is an illusion meant. Does it make it less than it was before you thought that? Its still what it is. Everything's a dream! WHACK you get hit in the face by a dreamy problem and it still hurts or confounds you. Do you see what i'm saying? Its not less than some other value (you also invented), just because you now know you are infinity and its inside of you. I'd set my intent in my dreamtime to go right to its metaphorical front door or whatever part of my psyche was wanting a word. I'd ask what it was showing me or wanting, then i'd do what my intuition said. Maybe it needs hearing/seeing and then integrating into your life, maybe its a boundary issue and you tell it to get lost, maybe it's a problem headed your way you are getting heads up about, it could be anything. You can do this in meditation too of course if you want more conscious control, unless you are a lucid dreamer and have more control over your dream time. Remember though whatever it is, its you. I used to do a lot of third-eye work, and so sometimes i'd get experiences with things that bothered me. If all of this sounds too much, you are infinity, you have an infinite amount of ways to communicate, to talk to parts of yourself. Back when I was much younger, I liked calling up my ancestors for help that night with whatever problem it was. We have more of a connection through our biology than most realise or explore. That's just one more tool in your toolbox. You could burn white sage, use Tibetan bells (and Tibetan dorje), keep some white Selenite crystals around next to you while you sleep for clarity, or listen to high-frequency sounds to clear the space if it was problematic, perhaps solfeggio sounds to clear things. -
BlueOak replied to Danioover9000's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
It's almost a perfect reflection in reality. You don't know the hopelessness scam victims feel, it has no other outlet. I am completely fine with scammers being shamed nationally. A lot of the governments these people operate in are turning a blind eye at best, or getting paid off at worst. I say that because unless something is getting international attention, few seem to care and little action is taken. The amount of pain these scammers inflict on their victims has been degrading society for a decade or two now. What some of these channels do is raise their profile enough, that they are shut down permanently, and give these things a consequence to deter others. It even affected me, I cannot hear an Indian voice on the phone and not think scammer immediately. At the worst point, I was getting scam calls twice a week, or every other day, and all of them were Indian accents. Its not like I sit here and think hmm, that accent must be a scammer, it becomes just an instinctual reaction. I've managed to stop family members getting scammed by luckily being there, but many people are not so lucky, and who can they turn to or get relief from that anger/grief/hopelessness when they are ripped off? Nobody. They have no recourse, they just blame themselves, or turn racist, and their level of trust or openness goes down, their cynicism rises and it creates ripple effects throughout society. Not to mention doing business with India has such a stigma with it now, because of their association with this scamming industry. Forget there ever being an Indian call center again for the UK, whereas Indian call centers used to be our primary choice. Yes it's a type of pornographic content. Its like when they go through a really poor area of a city, most people are just watching it to see how poor it is, and have an experience, which only has limited usefulness and does feed off of suffering. The limited usefulness is that people are more aware of the reality going on, which makes it worth it. In this case, sometimes they go to jail, feel enough shame they stop doing this, or others are given pause for thought. -
BlueOak replied to thierry's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Nice video, grateful for that imagery. @tuku747 Yes, the ego needs a constant reminder in the external reality that this way Leads back to infinity. <--------- -------> This way does not. Because we've concealed the fact we are infinity, we still need reminders of it. Otherwise it's just blindness. @Princess Arabia I do like the summary and I'm mostly in alignment with your thinking. One thing to consider in thinking what you say is a forgone conclusion. Infinity is capable of infinite amounts of BS, so you could be here forever. I often like to look at the rising population on earth, as an indicator that we have a bottleneck of people waiting to reintegrate with infinity. If the population was more constant, then I'd say we'd reached a more balanced system here. Unless the design is for us to be on multiple planets at once, but that won't be happening on mass, if at all, for a thousand years. -
With money its easier, if you can support yourself you are more likely to get a visa or citizenship. If you are low on money, many countries in the west and elsewhere, will take on foreign workers going abroad to work. It won't be the same as living abroad permanently but it will buy you time to save up money and begin to make that happen, while at the same time getting you out of your own country at the earliest opportunity. https://www.gooverseas.com/work-abroad https://www.prospects.ac.uk/jobs-and-work-experience/working-abroad https://jobs.goabroad.com/ There are many websites, do a search for 'working abroad'. It is a way to experience those countries or locations in them firsthand, do a bit of a search to see if people have talked about the company or experiences that you are interested in so you can better understand what you are signing up for. Additionally, i'd look at countries close to you that hire workers or staff from your country, as they may require people who speak your language, or relate to your culture. Even with no skills, you can look for language jobs teaching your language at colleges or jobs such as being a translator written or verbal overseas. As a final option in an emergency, join a volunteer program, and take on a part-time job while you are there to pay the bills, i'm 99% sure the volunteer agency will help you with that, as they will likely get that question a lot.
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BlueOak replied to thierry's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
That was my defacto thinking for a long time. Tell me have you ever chosen something that is the opposite to this, even knowing the other action would put you closer to love, infinity or connection? -
BlueOak replied to thierry's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I used to say everyone is trying to reach a state of love, but i've edited that message a lot. I think people have the choice to do so, over and over again. In every action, we get to choose division, confusion, disassociation etc. Or we get to choose, connection, love, harmony etc. Each time we pick the latter, we embody more of ourselves. -
BlueOak replied to thierry's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Everyone has the option to try to reach a state of love or experience love. Even the person you dislike the most can be trying to do so. There doesn't have to be a low or high. Just ways of reasoning and experiencing the world that embody more of infinity. -
BlueOak replied to AerisVahnEphelia's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Our own lives tend to correct selfish behavior unless we are insulated from consequences. -
BlueOak replied to thierry's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Thank you :). -
BlueOak replied to thierry's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Individual parts of you are at different stages of awareness. We have behaviors in ourselves that reflect different stages of development. It's a useful reference sheet but no model is perfect. I was most resistant to hierarchy when I arrived here, until I saw the hierarchies inside myself and their usefulness (and harm). Although a part of me still resists saying things like: That person is more conscious than that person - Because they are both representations of me, and both entirely made from consciousness. I saw and accepted the pattern that people develop along, regarding different issues closely follows the spiral dynamics model, and the further along they are on it, often the more life-enhancing their answers are, or at least their capacity for giving them increases. Yes the model will be improved, but I haven't seen a better one. -
BlueOak replied to AerisVahnEphelia's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Its a way to refer to people who are acting in disorder rather than order, disharmony, or disunity by a strong focus on their self-concept or self at the expense of others. Order in this context being the currently defined stable way for the group or collective to act, by a social contract or social norms. I agree it is unhelpful because it cuts us off from reaching them and divides us. At the same time, a strong focus on being selfish does the same, so it's a fair reflection in the outside world of the behavior. -
BlueOak replied to Emotionalmosquito's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Are you everything? If you answer yes - Then yes you are also sex. A billion people having sex. Trillions of animals having sex, the creative force behind the creation of life. That elation you feel when having sex, that is the closest most get to feeling infinite love, infinite connections, eternally everything. REALLY REALLY try to get into an infinite love state just for 5 minutes, I wish I could give that gift to everyone here. Spend a few weeks loving everything, put yourself into that state constantly no matter what it is, with the intent of being infinite love, gratitude, joy, and openness. That's what you get to return to being, all of it and beyond. It might help to think what sex is, beyond the physical act, or animal instinct. Its creation, connection to yourself through intense feeling, fertility (which is fundamental in this reality, earth acts as a womb for life), Kundalini Energy, preserving DNA, the birth point of everything that physically manifests here, the reproduction of infinity into infinite forms. So yes the creative force that first bred life into this universe is going to exist long after this physical body of mine or yours is gone, and you are still going to be it. Here to go deeper into a spiritual video - Going to rate this mid in terms of difficulty, don't take things too literally, have a calm mind before listening. He does do a fair job of laying each point out to go into the next. Or you can go back to being a human going through life unconsciously (or consciously!) and go back to having sex as a self. Everyone gets that choice. I need to always say don't rush it either, there is a reason you have this life, and a reason you are having every experience. -
BlueOak replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Here is a repeat pattern for you. A gathering of people on stone steps down to a small pit with a stone alter, a man in a headdress is chanting, and singing, there is fire around him and he makes the fire appear on the alter. Sitting in a dark arena with flashing lights, and music, in a crowd, while at the center someone unveils holographic red flame at an IT convention. Do you see it's a pattern, and it's not changed all that much? The only thing is at the end of this, you say okay I want to be infinity again, an end of the individual pattern(s) you observe/experience, or not. Sure there are a lot of steps to get to that realisation, but I guarantee you if you want to stick around for another bunch of lifetimes nobody and nothing is going to be able to stop it. So you've got the choice right now. Do you want to keep learning all the patterns as they come one by one, or instead start embodying them all at once? (Or some combination of that in different densities or levels of stillness) -
What it comes down to is people would rather not address the issue than address the issue. That's it in a nutshell. Addressing the issues behind homelessness is much harder, messier, and takes a lot of work. Gathering these people together in one location, where trained professional staff can make a difference is the easiest way to do so. Such a commune would have the press all over it saying how terrible it was, despite the fact all of this is going on anyway, just out of sight and untreated.
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Because you can't form an effective solution by picking and choosing what you will and will not accept about reality. Unless you are willing to engage with as much as you can, or your team can, then everything will fall short of what it could be. Ethics are important, but they don't put a roof over your head. Humane Morals are great, but they won't put food in the belly. Nobody can be taught to help themselves, by someone solely focused on helping them. I should clarify, provide all the tools, provide the conditions for change to occur, listen to them, help them get to the point they can help themselves. Lots of work can be done in these areas through many different instutitons. Bank loans to homeless people who qualify. Taking the top 10% of homeless people most likely to payback the loan, giving them accommodation, clean water to shower, and food. So those who have been employed in the recent past, or have worked for decades, and are clean from drugs/drink. Then putting in a program to get people to that point, for those that want to aspire to it. It's a missed opportunity for a bank, because people let ethics get in the way here, if its done ethically in good faith it'll be ethical. Next i'd also do a commune, where the people there paid for the commune, through their services or products produced. Not ideal at all, but better than a street corner, and it will teach them lifeskills. Plumbing for the guy looking after a few of these locations, cooks, cleaning, basic electrics for another person, carpentry to repair the beds/doors, food they could grow, you get the idea. Then something they could sell to keep themselves self-sufficient, or as close to it as possible, that's the kind of program to get people to the point, that a bank would look at those lifeskills and say yeah they are worth the chance of investing in. The rule would be no drugs or drink, getting people clean or giving them a reason to get clean. Of course many of these communes would be full of problems, that could be addressed there and then by qualified staff, but again it gives people a reason to try to get better, to improve their own lives. All of which would be better than letting people suffer on their own, in silence, under a bridge, discarded, unheard, their potential never realised for what it could be.
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BlueOak replied to OBEler's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@OBEler I understand. My biases are being a Xennial and inbetween two generations, with the natural benefit of connecting them just by being present. So naturally I reason from that perspective, seeing people enter a brand new reality with technology and learning it was my life. Also that i've done a lot of programming for example, which can be creative rather than purely intellectual. You can be a methodical programmer, but the geniuses of that field were more like creating art. Those programmers could do the work of a team, and still be more efficient in their code. The same with creative writing, I've written with older people and it didn't impede their creativity, perhaps only their output. So we see different extremes. I don't know your field, but you see the drop off in high performance like a coach would perhaps on the sportsfield at the highest levels. Whereas reality gets along just fine. In reality experience, a good partner/friends, and the willingness to take care of yourself matters a lot. From a kid I never intended in my life to be someone who can't change his mind, and I prefer to be challenged or enriched with insight, so for me i'll be bedridden or dead before being too rigid takes hold of me. Even if I won't be doing calculus in my 90s. -
BlueOak replied to OBEler's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@OBEler You are looking at your own limitation of connecting with that generation, culture, or group of people. Do some self reflection. Your perspective is brilliant, dumb, intricate, shallow, correct, incorrect, beautiful, and hideous. Its everything and so is everyone elses, it's infinity viewed any way you like. There is always someone out there, of any age who can be insightful, able, intelligent, charming, skilled, anything or the opposite of these qualities. Its very limiting to consider people dumb because they reason differently to you, or don't choose a certain device/technology to address a problem, or even that they don't address the problem you see at all. They are in a different mind, a different culture, a different era, religion, friend group, valueset, whatever. Dismissing a generation like this, is going to cut you off from them, it's going to naturally distance you from what is a link in a chain. It is more beneficial to be able to hear them, through the filter of age, or anything else in the way like your hatred of long words! They still shape reality here just like you do. The fact your education, or experience gave you some insight a group of people might be lacking, is a function of our continued evolution in our school systems or culture, it is one teacher from the previous generation teaching the next. It does not make someone else let alone an entire generation moronic. They had different experiences that they observed shaping their reality. You have a lot of arrogance, take it from someone who was very arrogant, who thought themselves in their 20's 'better' or at least more intelligent than those around him. Life is going to humble you over and over until you lose it. Until you realise you are no better than any previous generation, you are just different. My 20's for me and my friends were spent maturing, and we all had a lot to learn about ourselves, life, and how to treat others. I'd take an old me over a young me any day, what you'll hear most people say is they wish they had the youth AND the experience. -
BlueOak replied to OBEler's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Practice it here. Listen to everyone's point of view and be willing to integrate them or change your own. When I read this, it sounds like you have fixed beliefs, which will crystalize in the mind, causing what you say you don't want. (Many people cause what they say they don't want most). Inside their own bodies, people have a great deal of influence over what happens. Sure age brings some pitfalls, you'll get injured more and the injuries will take longer to heal for example. You'll pick up permanent problems, that's age. There is a reason though you can see an 80-year-old weightlifter and an 80-year-old that can barely function, beyond just happenstance, or random chance. That's diet, exercise, air quality, stress. keeping your mind sharp, and being willing to integrate or accept new ideas and ways of thinking or operating. I fully get the perspective that the way I think of the world in its entirety becomes more outdated the older I get. Part of the macro are the people I used to connect to, die. The more of these connections and perspectives I lose, the more my reality is harder to connect with others. Then I can come to a forum like this and constantly be forced to challenge or update my mind. Its the willingness and ability to do so that will create or not create the conditions you describe. (And diet, exercise, engagement with new perspectives etc). -
BlueOak replied to Sucuk Ekmek's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
And what's yours then? Is it better? I love it when people challenge or add to the analysis of something, because that's how I grow my understanding, but usually, when someone does what you just did, its a knee-jerk emotional reaction because they didn't like what they read or it challenges their values or beliefs.
