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BlueOak replied to Reignforest's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
I will try and answer this from my turquoise part, which is a reach in my current state. Turquoise is all points in time. Structure is a foundation to steady spiritual experiences and allow, but not as an absolute anchor to define it by. There are various structures that enhance life, geometries, and ways of designing structures that are beneficial to those who use them. It is a cumulative calming effect to live in these structures and make them part of us. Also, electricity itself is designed in a way that is unhelpful to the natural fields in the body, and although I am not an electrical engineer apparently there are other ways to design power systems. Connection to the earth being normalized in daily life, rather than afterthought of it just existing somewhere beneath the concrete. Spiritual concepts such as the fields generated by the body, and spiritual rituals (helpful behaviors each day) being taught more readily with less fear about how they will affect someone and more guidance for what an individual can experience. Teaching turquoise concepts at universities, learning to approach it for leadership and wisdom, and integrating its concepts slowly and calmly over time. Maintaining that structure and collective support so that turquoise concepts are steady and not like being out on a limb alone. Love being a primary focus, because aiming beyond a stage is a way to arrive at it. You can't skip stages but you can see them, and by doing that collectively it highlights that stage for all who look. It'll be in focus at least, and many of the steps (blocks) to get there will be observed. Local cultures being cultivated again rather than discarded or resisted. This is a very tricky concept to discuss, but the connection with the land requires a cultural shift to at least encompass the locality and the immediate environment we live within. Making it a part of ourselves, owning it but not as property, really owning its stewardship and the relationship we have with it. Someone explained it as larger and larger bubbles or bodies around you. Starting inside deepening the integration and connection to you, your divinity or recognition of the eternal self, then the resulting emotions/psychology of your experience, then your body, your immediate environment, then the local community, and up from there. The earth has a voice if you listen to it, it's immense. I am not fully turquoise by a long stretch, it is only a part of me, and I haven't engaged it for some time. So hopefully others will continue to add more, I am reaching for what we don't have here. I hope it helps. -
In the last 20 years things have contracted. Regressed and become more about war, violence, competition, standardization, organization, and suppression. It's in everything from the politics to the color schemes. The music and movies, to the internet use and privacy. It's been like expansion and contraction. Only the contraction here could well end our political and social systems as we know them. Though for the first time in my life over the last 10-15 years or so, I think it may start to pull back from contraction to expansion again. Please be aware I usually predict these things well in advance of them happening, so it won't be tomorrow or likely even in these next immediate years. The entire mood of the 80's and 90's was much more positive in the west. Impactful technology was changing our experience of life at an exponential rate. AI may do that but I am not convinced yet. If I could put that in a bottle and let you experience it for a day, you'd see what I mean. It was an entirely different collective emotion and attitude.
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BlueOak replied to Pablogamalielm's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
1, It is theorized Russia either needs to reach central Europe to shorten its border, or it can't defend its borders adequately in the decades ahead, nor solve its population crisis. Given their political trajectory of complete isolation from Europe, its media's saturation of Western hate, and its culture, peacefully fixing these issues through things like immigration or foreign investment to draw people into Russia or get them to stay, is a much lesser possibility. Russia will continue fighting wars until it achieves its objective of fixing its population demographic, and/or gets into a place it can safely secure its western border over much less distance. They've actually said this more than once. Additionally, I've repeatedly heard Russians say things like, all this blood, they'll never give up now. This is probably true, because they've lost through emigration or casualties the very people they need to lessen their population crisis. So among the choice(s) NATO has is whether to give an imperialist Russia time to rearm and regroup, then go again. Or does NATO want to break Russia here to the point that they cannot easily go again? This is being achieved slowly but steadily and is still the most unfortunate but most assured outcome that can be done. Because it just involves giving Ukraine weapons until Russia is crippled beyond its ability to fight for a decade or two. However the lines move on the map, Russia will be incapacitated militarily for a while. Without the old KGB leaders running Russia, there is less impetus for war with NATO, unless they and all this manages to put enough hate into the population for it to continue in cycles. Another is putting Ukraine in NATO now, not to fight the war, with a clause 5 years from now they will be a full member of the alliance. Giving us a potentially fixed timeline - This seems to be something that will not happen, from the messaging I can see, hopefully, I am proven wrong as it's the most humane way to try to force a longer peace. Lesser possibilities are smaller European military alliances with Ukraine, but that might not be enough to deter Russia. Other than that, as we all said at the start, someone getting an unlikely shot at Putin, China reining in Russia which is even more unlikely, or Russia getting distracted with something else for a decade or two. Like the collapse of its economy, which is possible now as its only going to get worse for them, and might work, but is being propped up by several countries sadly to draw it out. 2, The current Russia could well end with Putin. He's killed off the most capable leaders who could have replaced him. Meaning the problem of Russia for western powers could end itself in a decade. By that I mean if Putin dies with no capable leader, it continues to diminish quicker or break apart. Obviously diminishing is more likely. This comes around again to how long Putin continues to live. 3, Putin's biggest flaw, as with all autocrats, is they don't listen to bad news. They kill the messenger. Literally. So I am not even sure he's aware of the problems I am writing here. The specific answer to that isn't the point, I am very sure he's not aware of everything he should be, until it's already happened, or is happening. His second biggest flaw is vanity and all the political over practical decisions that makes him take. -
BlueOak replied to Razard86's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Magic is another creation of mind. Not to say there is anything wrong with that. Its not better or worse than the cutlery we eat dinner with. Language can be divisive or not, It doesn't change that you look at things purely from an individualist viewpoint. An absolute 1 or 0 which you demonstrate again here dividing up the conversation into me vs you. Ignoring collective experience entirely, ignore the infinite complexities of something. Its not black or white, an absolute yes or no. You employ language in a way to separate yourself from the reflection you are talking to, belittle it even to make sure its disassociated and apart. That's what all of your point was, it runs through your entire belief system, at least that which you have shown. This goes in that box. This goes in that box. You speak as if you are separate from yourself, and every single person you meet. You tell me you understand there is no separation but your entire way of reasoning is telling me otherwise. Not just the words, but the things you focus on. (Btw that's why I was a match, because I do it to) My hand is different to my foot yes, it has different properties in my mind, but it's not separate from me. Am I completely whole no. I wouldn't be here if I was. I am still broken in many ways. This is harsh and I apologize for being harsh. I hope ultimately this helps you see yourself, I honestly mean that and wish you well -
BlueOak replied to Razard86's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You split me and you into two parts. I don't. This conversation was a whole. I hope I have highlighted where those divides in you are, or at some point you'll see this repeated so often you can't ignore them. You say that you understand wholeness, but you still tier consciousness, or perspective, or understanding. You've cut yourself off from the reflection you are seeing while saying you are whole, and so denied yourself the ability to feel empathy for that part of yourself. Probably for good reason in your past, as you are talking about here. I needed to have that realised again, because I have been doing so again to people I considered to have a perspective 'lesser' than mine. It was an arrogance I needed to see in you judging me. I enjoyed the chat, it gave me room to better form that whole. The dog or child teaches me as much about the moment I experience as the Guru or genius because it's me reflecting it to myself. So it does not matter where you tier consciousness or awareness for the purposes of self-reflection. There is nothing to figure out. Only questions you put there or puzzles you want to solve. You could say infinite or nothing. -
BlueOak replied to Javfly33's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
If you know you can ask yourself any question and get an honest answer. Feel the answer, or have a method like meditation of it coming to you, then ask yourself the question if there are multiple planets you can incarnate on. In my experience, you need an honest personality, where knowing the truth is a higher value than a lie you want to hear or a lie to protect you. Find that way to connect with the you outside of your immediate focus, learn to trust the inner voice, and you'll not have a doubt. Unless it's something you really don't want to tell yourself the answer to. -
BlueOak replied to Razard86's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
And by the way, if you prefer to use these terms: Collective - All of you. Other people - Other aspects of yourself. Individualist - One part of yourself. You repeatedly try to tell people that your perspective is superior, or higher, or wider, or X, because you are aware reality is modeled in your mind, and that you represent it to yourself and speak to yourself. Well, let's dismiss that block now. I already am aware of this. This part of your collective mind already understands it. -
BlueOak replied to Razard86's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
By taking an individualist view of empathy or experience. You are literally cutting yourself off from experiencing empathy for someone else or collective experience. Try looking at it collectively, as if the collective has emotions, experiences or even memory, that might loosen this really strict disconnected definition or belief you have. Rather than making a declaration about another, because by your own belief system, you can't possibly understand me or anyone else. Do you see that contradiction? It is because you believe so strongly in your own perspective and dismiss aspects of another you cut yourself off from empathy with them. I am literally feeling what you are putting out in this message in my chest :D. I do not know the nuance of it all, but that is where intellect and emotions differ. Emotions are broad concepts that don't require exact intellectual definition. They can be, and are often shared. Yes, you can see memories through another's eyes, I understand that. I've done that. However, that didn't grant any more empathy inside me than a deep and meaningful conversation that I can relate to. Watching someone on fire. If i've burned my finger, or my hand in your example I can related to fire and the emotion it brings. I don't need to set myself on fire 50,000 times to understand 50,000 people on fire. I understand fear for your life too and pain, perhaps not on that level but severe pain. You are referring to severity while ignoring I've already mentioned it. I'll do so again: The closer your experience to another's, the stronger the emotion or emotional reference point you'll have. The more you'll get them in simple terms. The empathy you can have for the perspective. Its not black or white, 1 or 0, life is rarely an absolute. You'll understand people more or less, depending how close their experiences are to yours, or how much you listen to or have experienced similar people sharing their life experiences with you. Your community, family, background etc. You've also again completely missed that there are collective experiences communities share, without individual recollection of them. The same is true for the human race as a whole. It's why we don't need to live 1 billion lives to have empathy to 1 billion people. By the way, you can connect to the collective depression if you want, its a like a huge void, or a huge sadness that is so big. For that it's good to be out in nature, listening to the earth, same with collective love or collective anger. In fact, people seem very good at collectively sharing anger. -
BlueOak replied to Razard86's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
We are different. Your strengths and weaknesses are not mine. Your inabilities or abilities are not my inabilities or abilities. Your lack of growth or growth in certain areas are not my own. This is not arrogance, this is a fact. It is your reflection of arrogance (that you keep seeing) to believe every perspective must align with you on certain areas to be valid. I don't hold the same view. I do not inherently think your perspective holds less meaning because it is not my own, because all of this is a representation of my own mind. I am able to perceive and empathize with people directly without experiencing exactly what they did. That is precisely my personality type, a mediator, diplomat or INFP-T to be precise. https://www.16personalities.com/infp-personality The proximity to what I have experienced in my life, may give me a stronger or weaker grasp on it or a stronger or weaker feeling, but it is there for everyone. As I have already indicated above, you can reduce these patterns to their base components and have emotional reactions to anything. All patterns have common components in them that can illicit feelings in us. Sure those feelings come from related experiences, but they also come from group experience, or as I have said recognizable suffering, success, hardships, or any emotion or circumstance. You seem to perceive people to be an island, that every experience is individual only to that person. This is not the case. We don't need to live a billion lifetimes to understand and empathize with a billion different people. You seem unaware that collectively there is a greater mind, or collective mind, or even subconscious outside our own focus, which filters through into each of us to bridge gaps in understanding. Yes, this is also us, outside of our immediate experience. Of course, people who empathize deeply with another take on a greater burden to add to their own. That is why most of us don't. That's why I am pretty hard with people. Why my boundaries are up most of the time, more so given my personality type. If you are in that field, where you open yourself up to often emotionally disturbed, suffering, or chaotic people you have to take time to clear yourself and look after yourself emotionally more so than usual. The argument you cannot know love without suffering has always baffled me. You don't need the opposite to experience the current. You may define it differently or appreciate it more certainly. Your argument though is I need to know 8 billion opposites to understand something. No, not on the emotional level which is inherently broad or collectively understood in nature. Intellectually it benefits you to have more experiences certainly but it's not as necessary emotionally. *In short, you are trying to invalidate anothers perspective because it doesn't match your own, and then saying you can't understand it. Well if you don't invalidate it, you'll be in a much better position to understand and empathize with it. If that is really your goal. You won't cut yourself up into pieces, the wall between them them | me, will dissolve more. -
BlueOak replied to Razard86's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
My intuition wants to add there is a singular pattern that all others are copied off, and if you understand this one, you can have empathy for all people. Love. - Lack of Love - Love - Lack of Love - Love - Lack of Love. - How do I get one and avoid the other? Everything else is derivative. Fill a void. Assuming an identity. Defending or strengthening the identity. Lust, Lies, Vanity. Defense. Protection. Evasion. Lies. Offense. War. Drugs, Drink, Loneliness. Possessions. Hoarding. Greed. Family. Social Group. Rebellion. Order. Self Worth, Self Pity. Avoidance. Escapism. Workaholics. Pride in yourself. Pride in your identity. Intellectual Curiosity, Acceptance, Denial, Overthinking a Problem. Everything. There is nothing anyone does that isn't directly related to the above pattern, even if it appears completely inverted. Life tends to be layered like this and if you get through all the conditioning it'll be this. With gradually more complicated patterns of behavior built on top. -
BlueOak replied to Razard86's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I don't need to burn all five fingers, one is enough. I am able to understand why people make the mistakes they make without experiencing their full lifetime. Do I understand every nuance, no because it's not necessary for empathy. It would be more necessary for specific and detailed advice but that is different. A skilled psychologist or councillor for example can understand things about a patient just by observation, or a teacher, or a mentor, or a friend, or a good boss. They may have discussed, explored, or observed the more intricate details of that person's life, before offering specific advice to a problem or challenge they were facing, it depends on how specific the need is. There are common patterns inside people, cyclic events inside life, and even between lifetimes. You can see these and understand what generates them. There are so many commonalities between these patterns, that you can see them without being inside of them, especially if you've been in a pattern that is in any way related to it. Further than that I feel being supportive is often all someone needs, and helping where you can. I understand enough about you to know you mean well and try to help. You don't need everything to align perfectly with how you view the world. It doesn't invalidate your perspective. By taking such strict definitions you limit yourself. For example, thinking you need specific experiences of everyone's lifetime to have empathy for them. You don't. If we talked enough you'd probably see enough common patterns from me, to understand me. As a side note, there is no depth to consciousness. It is formless without dimension. Set an intent to experience that in your meditations. -
Reaching self-love seems like a complete gamble, so much so the system is absurd. Each lifetime you guess a set of parameters you'll incarnate into or if you believe/feel we are attracted to incarnations, are attracted into a new incarnation. Then hope the experiences surrounding us, or we attract and seek out, somehow generate enough of an impulse toward love rather than conflict. Sure you'll have an impulse from the last lifetime(s) for better or worse, and cyclic repeating events, but that's not the main thing that drives you in your choices. The moment drives you, the immediate environment, the memory of your life experience, and maybe if you are lucky enough to catch it intuition. There are other places with different parameters than this world but duality is still the intersecting point of them. It really is just running forward and hoping conflict doesn't keep knocking you down while blind in each incarnation. Unless you somehow wander into a teacher (or events) who can help you out enough to see yourself? Then you get a better shot but not much. The older you get the more broad your points of reference, and the more conflicts are within your experience.
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BlueOak replied to BlueOak's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Maybe the cyclic events are what bring focus here, and if I persist I will have lifetimes of unconsciousness again. What are you becoming? Who or what is evolving? There is just this: ------------- ------------- Yet even though I know this in great unlimited depth without constraints, I am still here talking to myself. I could go on another billion lifetimes inventing flaws to solve. I am sure it would be entertaining, as it used to be. I don't want to be entertained or intellectually satisfied anymore. I've answered my own question. Thank you. -
BlueOak replied to Razard86's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Inadvertently I understand your message we can learn by example. Good suggestion. I understand experience is required for many, but for me its not, a few points of reference are enough for suffering. I can experience empathy for another when I so choose. I also accept group consciousness changing, though I often try to resist it, I see it happen without experience of a direct event. You are in what you are referring to as a waking dream. So you do learn everything outside of physicality. If you don't perceive that, then imagine you are in your nightly dream. You are already learning something outside of physicality even if you perceive your experience as a body that way. For my own part, reality just is. There is nothing else. No dream, no body, no self-concept beyond what I (or the group) decide. I was fixing a split, an old belief I had stumbled over. -
BlueOak replied to Razard86's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Thanks for the reply. Can you give me an example you've learned that is nonconflict related? By conflict I mean internal, and external, between two parts of yourself or your identity(identities). I can perceive spiritual experiences being one, but that would seem to fall outside of duality, and I feel can be learned outside of physicality. @AndylizedAAY -
BlueOak replied to Benoit Jazy's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
There is a large amount of energy in my head right now, that's all I know. There has been for a while. I should meditate to ground it but I haven't been doing so for some time. There has been an intensifying of the last 20 years issues, and I also have experienced that. I don't feel my emotional state lifting in the slightest, nor my physical body or circumstances changing much. I've been through actual ascension to reach infinite love (for all of 5 minutes which lingered for 2 days), and no its nothing like this. Its just a peak of energy at the moment. Come to think of it that's probably why I am not sleeping well, I will go meditate. -
BlueOak replied to Razard86's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Do you believe conflict is the reason everyone incarnates into duality? Or do you believe there are several reasons? -
BlueOak replied to patricknotstar's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Your probably just training yourself for the moment. Everyone gets another go before they incarnate again, your choice. No rush, that choice comes for everyone, and you might as well enjoy the time here for now. I once heard someone say, being small, and being big were precursors. Being infinite is just another state. I had a few where it felt like there was more but the experience stopped before I reached it. When it happens you'll just be without any sense of time or space and that will be okay. Then you'll be here again, in this state of mind. After that I don't know what my next one is, I had no resistance at all when I became big enough to be without form or sense of dimension. I just was. Maybe connecting infinite love to that state mentally, as i've only had both experiences separately. That could be it. Good luck to you anyway, many happy experiences. -
BlueOak replied to The Redeemer's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Associations are useful. Suffering bad is one I suggest everyone make use of, otherwise you'll walk into walls for the rest of your existence. -
BlueOak replied to r0ckyreed's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
They do at the time of conception. If I write a book, after a page is done, much of it is already flawed. Growth happens as we observe things. The problem(s) are how often the teachings are adapted and by whom. Additionally how restrictive people are to adapting their lives or connections to an ever-changing matrix of realities, rather than a singular truth. Which I believe you touch on in your videos, and is why many religious or spiritual practices lag or drag behind. Even if I sit there and try to let the absolute consciousness act for me to greater degrees, its going to come out more in patterns or often seemingly random acts that I might not understand in the moment, certainly not if its intended for something great than this identity sitting here typing it. Buddhism as a symbol or nexus cuts through a billion different realities, in a billion different ways. With many billions of connections, relationships or references to or with it. Who is to say that it isn't exactly what it needs to be, exactly now? Its inspired you to type this for example, and its inspired me to reflect on what you typed, forming different references, and relationships to the material within my perceived reality. -
BlueOak replied to r0ckyreed's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You could be an Adventurous Meditator. I used to think the spiritual experiences were a great adventure. They can still be fun. Part of meditation is getting a headstart on your day with intent, its you letting YOU arrange the day before you begin. Its also taking minutes in the middle of a hectic schedule to settle the mind/body/spirit. Some of the most successful people out there have a small amount of downtime mid-day. The mind needs space to organize, if its rush rush rush, then there is no structure or organization. -
Yes and No. Yes. In dreams your limits dissolve and can come into reality. I have only experienced this out of curiosity/realisation/awakening, rather than material gain, or wanting a specific result. That was being me for a time, not the illusion of me I create for myself. Created so I understand that dreams from the absolute me bleed into or shape the waking world, as well as the other way around. In the correct state, operating from a place of love for yourself/others/all of you, yes. You did construct these limits, by dividing yourself - That doesn't mean start dreaming up sports cars and trying to pull them out of dreams :D. It means becoming/accepting/loving you, and things appearing in both dreams and life naturally. What part of yourself do you want? Or better what parts do you not want? You are everything, and the more you realise it the more you connect/integrate/align/resize/re-field/ yourself.
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BlueOak replied to FourCrossedWands's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
As we accept all. Heal all. Love all. Things become more settled. We are in a period of consolidation at the moment as well globally, drawing back, conserving, doing more with less etc. It rewards efficiency and refined routine. -
BlueOak replied to FourCrossedWands's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I envy your upbringing and structured mind. My life was a mess of illogical inconsistencies. Vague metaphors. Decisions made out of fear. A constant uncertain environment. Unexpected spiritual experiences and general insanity for the first 30 years or so. You are your reality. So that's what I was. -
BlueOak replied to SQAAD's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Whatever you decide is wrong or right about it. Whatever meaning you assign to it and whatever connections you make to other beliefs or experiences you've had. The Ego can feel threatened and that puts you into a defensive mindset, survival, loss of identity, feel like you are dying, or what you consider important in life is fading away. That happens to all of us in life sooner or later, because that's how life is designed, this work speeds it up. Most people face their identity falling away for one reason or another. Most people feel what they considered important to their life fading away or passing away literally. Whether they are spiritual or not, everybody goes through it.