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Politicians continually attack anything that doesn't cost them votes, anything that can be framed as the enemy. The further right a party is the more they will do this. So the question you are asking is, does banning porn cost the rightwing of America more votes than it gains them? In the west at least, the right generally likes sex, but likes to pretend it's taboo. That's a whole other psychological rabbit hole of kinks that I am not going to walk you through, but it's probably enough information for you to begin to deduce. I think they will continually label sexuality as dirty or taboo topics because it gains them more than it loses. On the macro, they are trying to increase the birthrate, so conception will definitely be under threat, but banning porn outright no, they'll just increasingly regulate it because it plays well with the base. *Hint the dems are a center-right party also, so you'll see some of this behavior with them, and if the Christian nationalists continue to turn America more theocratic all bets are off.

That's an interesting perspective that could be true. I think the lib dem's party leader spent a lot of the campaign talking about himself however, using his identity as the reason to vote for the Lib Dems. This is a common theme in some of the smaller parties in Ireland and Wales also. There still needs to be demonstrable reason to vote for them next time around, beyond just: The government is doing badly. The SNP's promotional material focused a great deal on their accomplishments as a selling point. If you can demonstrate what these reasons are to the electorate, then you can give people an associated reason to vote for them in the future and build on that. I honestly think labor will struggle with their identity in the coming years unless the conservatives shift further right to eat up the reform vote which is possible. Then we'll have a centrist party (labor) vs a far-right party, if the conservatives fight again for the center ground, it could collapse labor's identity entirely. 'We are not them' only works once. Though you will hear, that undoing 15 years of X or Y takes time too as an excuse. On the lib dems specifically, I will say they are much more strategic than reform is, they lock down the seats they do get, whereas reform spreads itself way too thin, perhaps reform had to do that this time around to see where they were strongest.

Electricity runs at a counterpolarity to life's natural energies, and more importantly, Earth can only support certain things here that fit into its current physical, social, and mental dynamics. It/You will always create a limit when something cannot. When you reach this limit in too many areas of life, its the point people often seek elsewhere to incarnate. It is most easily seen when a spiritual concept gradually becomes grounded and slowly stripped away to its practical uses, the more integrated it becomes into the planetary consciousness. Such as some people are attempting to do here in real-time in this conversation. OR I could just point you at the speed sign on your road outside the house, and say look, this is an imposed limit like any other. But for electrical devices, this would be all the cell phone and electrical pollution bouncing around outside the visual spectrum. Daniel Winter once spoke on this, as have others, but you'll need to search for that yourself or someone similar. I once heard him speak that he knew of two other ways to power things with a better polarity over regular electricity, and that was over a decade ago. Polarity might be the wrong word, it's been a long time since I studied any of Daniel winter's material, because it's not very grounded, and filtering the usable material takes time. He's a kind man to talk to if you ever get time however: https://www.youtube.com/@DanWinterFractalField https://www.fractalfield.com/onlinebook/ @OBEler Do you have any internal intuition to call on: If so, read this and ask if I'm being truthful (hint I always am to the best of my ability) I have personally shut down computer systems accidently and frequently with a press of the screen, when I ran too much kundalini through my own body. Which was hilarious at work when I used to be at a dead-end job shutting down tills. You'll physically feel light pain when touching metal, many people have said the same and they stop wearing jewelry. Unless you put the work in to move energy through your body/mind, and get in a clean environment and bodily state free of electrical/phone, chemical/mental pollution, you'll never know. It may just be that reality becomes more malleable in more open or flow states of consciousness, and so if we install an intricate and ritual (patterned) belief system that this is happening, then it will. I could do it again over six months, maybe less this time. It was fun till I blew out my Crown Chakra in an argument, that hurt like hell.

I was going to vote for Rejoin EU because every vote for them would be a significant increase in their numbers. I live in a conservative area where nothing ever shifts; which is both good and bad at times, because it is a very stable area here. I ended up not going in. When many of my preferences are so far out of alignment with the mainstream (or just suppressed entirely), voting isn't usually in my interest. A non-vote being counted in that case is preferable. If there was a chance the conservatives here would be unseated I might think differently. For example, in the local elections earlier in the year, Independents were the only group to rival the conservatives in my area, and they got pretty close when counted as a collective; the conservatives still got a majority but not a big one. I see all the major parties as centrists or right-wingers, and reform as extreme right. For me, there isn't much in it. Labor generally serves the top 20%, and conservatives the top 5–10%. The Greens always seemed very centered, with an environmental bias (which is something all parties need), and the Lib Dems I honestly don't know what they stand for these days. That's not a dig at them, but in my perspective, they didn't carve out an identity I could point to. I think getting the message out about what each party and candidate stands for is something ALL of them fail at these days, because most fight over the center ground, and in local elections here for the council, many barely bother to write more than a line. 20 years ago I would have called the Lib Dems the student party or the party for the youth. These days, I have no idea. As for which is the most conscious? If they don't have a strong environmental agenda they have no viable long term strategy. So I would say Green, and if there was even a small chance a Green candidate could win here I'd probably vote that way. What is the extreme left? If leo is on the extreme left, where am I off the cliff? I always find these analogies fun, so don't take that too seriously, for me he's more center-left, with a heavily liberal bias and a heavy anti-socialist bias, but more in reality than my innate idealism. BTW idealism is desperately needed right about now, in culture and art most of all. Whereas I have an anti-authoritarian bias (which I've worked on a lot) and a lesser bias toward the underdog.

More people in England hate drama, and mock ourselves, not taking things too seriously. Not all, obviously, but more of us. We don't have the time for drama queens. More people in America, Russia, etc love drama—again, not all, but enough to make it effective. Americans and Russians especially take themselves more seriously than we do. I sympathize, as I often do the same. If the drama didn't hook their populations, it wouldn't, and it wouldn't get the air time it does. If the mockery here didn't work, we wouldn't do it. You wouldn't have picked up on Trump's words for example, and considered them important; the words would be fluff. The actions might still be important to us, but nobody here would give a damn what he said beyond a headline or two. I would mock Trump a lot if he were my leader and not be able to take him seriously, (many of us did) and I hear the same about Biden often spoken about on the train, for example, just the other day. So you understand it's not a right or left thing. It's a difference in the populations. Certainly, we've got plenty of flaws here, and maybe we take the mockery of systems and authority too far at times, but it gets us through the tough times. I understand I may trigger people to say: But this or that was important, I understand it was to you, so please understand you'll just be highlighting the difference in people's temperament. The American dream, as seen by some average English people, although the comedian knows exactly what he's doing. We mock ourselves, so yes we would (and do) mock Trump relentlessly.

@Keryo Koffa Certainly, we are constantly experiencing ourselves. Awareness can be full-bodied for example, and entirely emotional, or it can be a mental construct, or both. The mirror definition works for our minds, but the experiential definition works better when describing our emotions. What mood you are in right now is tailoring the experience you are having. I was touching on two difficult concepts, and also commenting on the way you both played out this masculine-feminine, logic-emotion discussion in the thread to arrive at a balance point. Here was my own difficulty or hesitation when I considered it. All is universal mind: Yes. We often say this. But Mind is our concept. Universal mind would also mean universal emotion. Universal everything. Psyche is a more encompassing word to use in that case. The other is the re-enforcing of gender identity in society at the moment, and I wanted to avoid falling into that trap too far when I spoke on it, as it better plays out in the society forum. Spirituality as a whole once encouraged the unification of genders, which didn't play out as favorably across all the social dynamics we have. So when I say dissolving emotion and intellect together, I mean removing unnecessary distinctions where we can when speaking the experience of ourselves, seen between emotion/intellect which work together in a pattern to create reality. Which I think was probably the original intent of spiritual people in years gone by, which started the cascade of identity problems some experience today by taking it too literally. *Some spiritual people speak about detachment from emotions so they are no longer influenced by them, but that seems to me like cutting off your arms so you can walk more easily.

I would draw you both a knot where two heads of a kundalini snake rose up together, and showed you the experience of a dance at the same time. At one side of it, I would have emotion, the other intellect, or the masculine and feminine, and together they would mirror the pattern of infinity you are at the moment. Personally I would dissolve the distinction further, but that's just my own ego talking.

Plenty of evidence Bobby we repeatedly discussed it. You may not like it, but I keep presenting it. Let's not go around it again here else we'll derail the American's political thread, the Ukraine thread is still active again for that if we want another round. Thank god NATO has restraint. If England was far right at the moment our troops would be in Ukraine and our assassins active in Russia taking people out, just like Russia does. Russia has threatened to nuke us repeatedly, threatened our monarchy, and our people, killed people on our soil with assassins, and generally tried to provoke a rise out of us every chance it gets. If Europe takes security into its own hands, troops would already be in Ukraine. America isn't the most hawkish, because as you say many Trump's supporters, and many on the left wing want to stop aid. Russia isn't much of a threat to America anymore, they are more concerned about China. So America, the collective country is nowhere near as pro-Ukraine as Eastern Europe, Poland, the Baltics, England, France, Finland etc. Without America stabilizing the response, some countries would already be in Ukraine. Sure America don't want Russia to win, because Europe is their main trading partner, and if Europe starts to either break down or go into a war footing, America looses money. So please understand what you are asking for. Without NATO there isn't one pole of power, or two poles, many powerful countries would be active and maintaining a larger military, which is not a step toward world peace. Anyway let's take this to the Ukraine thread if you want to go further.

Some people are crazy. Its good to find it out up front. Better than a year from now! Be glad for honest reactions and learn to block :D. Seriously, I would joke about getting punched, and it'd be a story I'd retell to a friend sometime for a laugh. It's way over the top, so don't let it bother you too much, some days you meet unhinged people, and sometimes more than one in a row. If it helps, most men have been slapped at one point I am sure, and that can be a good sting too. One day she'll hit a guy with no self control and it won't go well for her. Oh someone also said maybe its your vibe, me i'd say maybe its the area you were in, could be a rough area to pick up any good women.

It can be yellow. It is for me. For Green: Sure, I often say I don't need to kill to survive, so I don't, and that when you stop eating something and it's no longer food, you will change your relationship with it. You'll see slaughterhouses as barbaric, like the arenas of Rome. I see them as almost like ritual sacrifices to feed people's cravings. However, I won't argue along the line of what an animal feels, as I would if I were stage green, I can understand panic, imprisonment, and pain, but that's a hard point to argue unless someone is attuned to feeling these things and gives a damn. All of the above is my own story. Its not practical. People care more about their self-interest, and if you are stage yellow in your reasoning, you are much better equipped to reach the majority orange in England and America for example. For stage yellow reasoning, practically its stupid at this stage to keep cows and sheep. All for people's cravings. Eat something else for long enough and develop new cravings. These two animals take up so much land for what they produce. The meat industry is keeping land prices high, driving up the cost of everything else; it's taking space away from forests, which could be lowering the temperature of the planet, and wild land to balance the ecosystem; while at the same time, the amount of fuel used to process and move food around, vs vertical farming nearer the location where the food is needed, heats the planet massively. Climate change affects everything, every aspect of life, as does fuel prices. There's some yellow for you. People might say switch to pigs and chickens on mass, and I would say yes that'll be a start. Obviously, this point is most relevant in England, and Western Europe, or other highly developed places like Japan and other urban areas.

If Trump defunds NATO and Russia is given time to rearm, Russia invades Eastern Europe and we are in WW3. Russia has sustained significant losses now, so there is a possibility Putin will be dead before he can rearm sufficiently. However without NATO guaranteeing Europe, and the right's ascendency in Europe, we may see a switch to counter aggression toward Russia from Europe now. Both sides are posturing for a fight. What the Anti NATO crowd don't understand is, NATO has guaranteed peace among some of the most powerful countries on the planet for a hundred years. Whatever you think of them personally.

America took a further step towards dictatorship, which clears the path towards his rule for another 4 years. If something can be argued to be an official act, it's okay. So anything a half-competent politician can remember to say, or a lawyer can argue is under the mandate of an official act is okay. The courts power over politicians in America just fell on its face, which is exactly what dictators require.

Let me ask the people talking about age a question. If your quality of life had skyrocketed in the last 4 years, would you care as much about age? Honest question, try to put aside your biases and look through a neutral lens. If it helps, picture that you are living abroad, and this place called America is a distant memory.

Yes. Minus the age gap, it's the single biggest factor in the severity of any problem affecting the human race as a whole. So 99.99999% of them. All problems are magnified with more people. Unless people want to seriously push for colonizing infinity (space) in which case population becomes irrelevant.

Limited Socialism fixes social issues, because its always the missing piece. Now the missing piece is going to be liberalism and socialism, which is why there are riots in France and people complaining about the riots. The more of life that is excluded or unconscious, the greater the instability.

It's still suffering, even if you are not aware, you are just less aware of why or what is going on. Take a simple example: A pet could be tormented in any number of ways and be completely unaware of it or why, but it'd still be going through it. The pet has the advantage of not being socially conditioned to hide the trauma. They shake or tremble, and visibly appear injured, often, this means an animal can shake off a trauma quite literally from their body when it happens. For a human, they can look completely normal, but they've rearranged their life to account for the equivalent of missing a leg or being disconnected from themselves and wearing a mask. Because humans are not socially conditioned to shout, shake their bodies, or otherwise integrate or recover from trauma they have experienced. Being unaware of how crippled they are, or how much they are suffering, doesn't change it. You have to get in there and do something like the completion process, or emotional surgery, which Teal just did a free three-day live session for on her platform if you haven't done it before. Her book, the Completion Process is pretty good for any internal work you've got to do. How do you know when you are fragmented, detached, or in a harmful pattern? Whenever you have a triggered emotion, a dilemma between two pieces of yourself, a self-sabotage or coping mechanism, for example. Any pattern that is causing suffering.

@zazen 1) Those you hate have little to no influence on anything and hate the same things you do. A bunch of rich sociopaths several hundreds of years ago put many people into differing forms of slavery, most these days are wage slaves of varying degrees, and that's universal. The average American can't even name the countires on a map you are talking about. The average European is just suffering a 9-5 they hate to make ends meet. These countries are not your enemies, despite the propaganda telling you so. Stop dividing the world up just to make your own ego feel better that you have someone new to hate. Why push for more cyclic suffering? Do you think somehow things will get better that way? 2) I said THE GLOBE. You heard: 'Those you don't like', and then proceeded to tell me why I should sympathize with your hatred. I do. I also think extending it for another generation to take care of is absurd and insane. Be the better people you say you are and push for a global system, not two fractured warring parties. As it stands now you are no better than those you hate. No different and not ethically or morally superior. BRICS still causes suffering and you are stilling championing it in the name of ethics and morals, or just personal gain. 3) From now on, I will say China in my discussions with you about BRICS, that BRICS is on its knees to China. Until you become as frustrated as I do with you making these comments about Europe, whose GDP was greater than the US last I checked (all of Europe, the continent). I could be corrected; it's been a while since I added it up, and it depends on where the boundaries are drawn. It seems to me you think unless a country is throwing its military strength around its 'on its knees'. No, Europe was just happy being Europe and sitting on profits (giving back a hefty amount in trade with the US) without needing much military to enforce their lifestyle. A remilitarized Europe, all these powerful countries acting independently, will not make the world safer for you. There will be more war. I think we need a big war to remind people how futile this approach is, I honestly think we are headed to it.

The EU Right Shift https://results.elections.europa.eu/en/european-results/2024-2029/ Nationalist Right are taking power in France: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cv22p9dl415o Macrone is calling an election, bad timing and bad news. German EU Elections take a similar turn, Far-Right take second place https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/10/world/europe/germany-afd-eu-election.html At 16%. So we’ve 16% of the population of Germany declaring for fascists and nazi’s. Christian Democratic Union and the Christian Social Union Takes 30% for the center right. https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-european-election-results-2024-german-coalition-olaf-scholz-social-democrats/ Overall: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/6/9/germany-and-frances-far-right-make-gains-in-eu-elections Apparently Austria didn’t fair much better. The Conditions for WW3 continue to form. Only bright spot there comes from the: Leftwing swing back toward the center from Eastern EU States: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/polish-pm-tusks-civic-coalition-seen-ahead-eu-vote-exit-poll-2024-06-09/ I'd say the nationalist swing overall increases the likelihood of the EU breaking up if its put under further pressure by BRICS. I wouldn't say its high but its higher than before this. All Putin needs to do is keep playing on the immigration fears and adding to the EU with Syrian and other refugees, its so effective for him.

There is no life here in the first place. There is no 'here', no 'place'. You alter the frequencies you experience to have another experience or not. I'm out for a while after I'm done. I'm staying in the mental realm entirely for a while. I know that's also a bad pun because all is mind, but I don't want the imagined limitations either.

Where a malicious motive can be undeniably proven: I've always thought the penalty for false accusations should be increased with the severity of the crime. This gets messy in irrational emotional situations and relationships, obviously. They are often not logical, and so that needs to be taken into account for in-the-moment snap decisions. For things that extend beyond the moment, though, the same rules should apply. I thought you meant a violent sexual assault. It depends on her tone. If there was proximity and I noticed that she genuinely believed it, I'd assure her honestly that I had not. If she escalated irrationally, or I could see she was lying now to save face, I'd probably make a sarcastic joke. I'd shrug it off and continue on my way, leaving the irrational women behind. Don't give people like that your time, energy and focus.

If he gets out of the president's position he'll live longer. It's a stressful and demanding position that's bound to age anyone. Big populations should be ruled by councils or large groups of people with collective responsibility, never a single individual. It's just one more reminder of the problems associated with this exaggerated individualist approach, of picking one person to take the weight of leadership over millions. But then almost every problem anyone talks about is associated with the same thing.

Remember when I repeatedly said debates between candidates were required to test their competence? I do. That would have avoided this mess. It would have shown Biden was not capable long before it became critical. It's undemocratic to elect leaders without debates, and ultimately self-defeating in this case.

On the right: Gain a moderate level of awareness See several things your peers don't because of your awareness. Gain the ability to answer questions quickly on the spot (debate). Learn your district inside out, find what people are talking about, and then work out what people with money will also benefit from talking about. Only talk about things that correlate with both groups. Gain some level of name recognition. Smile and shake a lot of hands. Charm people who have money. Use that money to win. Assemble a team that works on your public image, and advises you which talking points are doing well. Sell out to your backers, but keep these talking points in mind, because you'll be more aware and capable than many of your peers. Find which groups your base hate, and tell them you hate them too. Make as much money as you can while you ride the wave. Avoid scandals as long as possible. Merchandise whatever you can. Retire to a cushy job.

Yes. After seeing reactions to the debate I agree.

The trend is for fascism to rise and wars to come about, social unrest and hate to rise still, we haven't had enough war or suffering yet. Just the nonsense I'll have to listen to from Americans for the next four years will be unbearable, and I am already heavily suppressed in the current dynamic responding to it. We'll export maybe 10-20% of that fantasy here in UK. We'll have another bout of vaccine deniers in England or, more likely, something equally stupid like the homeless being blamed for housing prices. People will start discussing weather machines under someone's bed are causing climate change again. It's just general conspiracy brain idiocy and another round of rightwing suppression; maybe it'll be enough to start some severe counterculture leftism, but I don't think we are there yet. It's a pity we couldn't hold together NATO at this critical time, but the writing on the wall for America to shift fascism has been there for a long time, and Europe only has itself to blame if it's not armed sufficiently after two years of Russian aggression to stand against BRICS. I thought they'd dose Biden up for the debates with something like Alpha Brain, and Trump's charges would knock him down a peg; sadly, no such luck, a worse debate than I thought.