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@Mellowmarsh yeah, so you're simply aware. Cool. Simple, I suppose, and interesting too. Although apparently you're still human and therefore limited. So what's the point of escaping into the ‘now’ or trying to become more present in the moment? Why? Is it because you're broken and trying to escape something, or because you're trying to become more loving or productive?

Right, I get what you're saying, but isn't like conciousness beyond space? So you mean a void? But then where or what is that void? You can't give it a now, or a here, or a space - yet as a hypothisies awareness or I am can exist as an experience of those even imaginatively as a possibility to exist if not in physics like time travel or dimensional travel or Lightspeed, so these do and can exist as an experience to the degrees of infinite possibilities, but conciosuenss or awareness is not any of that

@Mellowmarsh okay but is now actually eternal, or like is there an outside of the now, you say there is no outside of now, but isn't now a time construct of conciosuenss, like now and eternity can't be the same thing, because now is a time construct which tries to solidify a changing universe which you must adapt to, whereas I'm sure even eternity is changing as part of conciosuness and existence or there is no being.

But that is the hypothetical of an intelligent infinite god but while finite this would be forgotten and unable to validate in theory

Or you exist as god manifested into this now moment and there was never a past and God can infinitely pretend to be finite in any moment of a lifetime and forget and remember and forget and can instantly materialize into a life at any moment even after death return to a life as if it hadn't died in a parallel reality if it is infinitely intelligent and powerful and there is no death just as there is no birth or history

Imagine you couldn't imagine at all

And as you know there are plenty of survival distortions or madness ideas about god and death and existential reality of love which we humans contradict each other. Being human can easily confuse you about absolute Goodness, we are all limited with amnesia, but that's again your own personal spiritual development and not what others might make you fear or worry about ultimately

Also keep in mind that Gods Goodness after death is zero depression, zero anxiety, zero sadness, zero abandonment, zero confusion, zero pain only Goodness, that is your truest nature, not what you and other people while physical might distort about the reality of god

Actually the more you attune to the spiritual realm and gods infinite love which contains pure all capital G for Goodness you will only have greater clarity, not the opposite effect, it'll be instead connectedness, home, understanding, peace and clarity. Expansion of conciosuenss will be your true self of love not distorted madness which would be more human programming and cultural weariness

Lol okay Matrix Neo

@Toranvor This is too vague

Am I allowed to commit suicide I want to die and never reincarnate as a human never again

@Willy Phallicus So you’re saying God—an infinite consciousness with literally limitless creative power—would want to be dead? Why would something that can instantly imagine and manifest anything—entire galaxies, mythic worlds, perfect romances, endless sensory and artistic experiences beyond human comprehension—ever crave non-existence? An infinite being wouldn’t “run out” of experience. It could constantly expand—new dimensions, new forms of reality, new narratives, new sensations. There would always be another horizon, another layer, another possibility. You’re talking about something that could create: palaces, planets, advanced civilizations, erotic paradises, cinematic lifetimes, high-tech realities, mythological archetypes—endless variations of existence, forever. And yet you’re saying that with all of that, it would choose to stop existing? That doesn’t make sense to me - You're not strong in this regard of heavy weight philosopher, more of a time waster. Wrong corner of the internet, maybe open a Minecraft server instead.

@Mellowmarsh So the answer is basically: “You chose this. It’s for growth. Be more loving.” I don’t buy that at all. If this is supposed to be some kind of spiritual lesson, then it’s a pretty poor one. Because what this life has actually taught me isn’t love, growth, or refinement—it’s frustration, resentment, and a constant sense of being forced into something I never chose. I didn’t choose my body. I didn’t choose my personality. I didn’t choose my circumstances. I didn’t choose to be dropped into a system where survival, money, and repetition dictate everything. And yet I’m supposed to believe this is all some meaningful curriculum? People say challenges exist to make you more loving. But that assumes the outcome is guaranteed. It isn’t. For some people, it just creates the opposite—disconnection, anger, and rejection of the entire setup. So no, I don’t see this as “growth.” I see it as being placed into a constrained, often unpleasant experience and then being told to adapt to it and call that meaning. And when I look around, it doesn’t feel like some refined spiritual environment either. It feels like billions of people running the same loops—working, aging, surviving—largely interchangeable within the system they’re part of. That’s not a judgment of individuals as much as it is a criticism of the structure itself. So when people say, “You chose this life,” or “this is for your evolution,” it doesn’t land. It doesn’t feel like expansion. It feels like limitation being reframed as purpose.

@Mellowmarsh So you’re saying an infinite consciousness—something with literally endless possibilities, infinite variations of experience, infinite ways to refine and explore reality—would somehow get bored and choose to limit itself to this? To become a finite, constrained human—trapped in a body it didn’t design, a personality it didn’t choose, in a system built around survival, money, and repetition? To live as one of billions—interchangeable, disposable, aging, limited, and bound by biology? That doesn’t make sense to me. Because if something is truly infinite, it wouldn’t just “run out” of things to experience. It wouldn’t hit a ceiling and go, “well, guess I’ll be a struggling human now.” An actually infinite consciousness could: expand into entirely new dimensions of experience generate completely new forms of reality twist, evolve, and reconfigure existence itself create endlessly novel states, narratives, and sensations. There would always be another horizon. Another layer. Another possibility. Infinity doesn’t get bored—because boredom implies limits. So the idea that something infinite would collapse itself into a narrow, restrictive, often painful human life—and call that “growth” or “chosen”—doesn’t feel convincing. It doesn’t feel like expansion. It feels like confinement. And from inside this experience, calling it “chosen” sounds less like truth and more like a way to justify something that feels imposed.