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I keep wanting to say this analogy, what your talking about with free speech is like kids in a playground - So theres a load of kids playing but a couple of them are bad and want to start fights and be troublemakers. So one of the kids says 'look lets start a new playground area where everyone is free to do what they want but we'll have some rules because these troublemakers are messing it up for everyone. We will still let them play as long as they follow these rules'. The rules are just to respect others, dont start trouble and be free and have fun. The troublemakers dont agree with this and they come into the new area and say that your rules say we can be free and as part of our freedom we want to be able to be trouble makers, we also want to encourage other kids to do the same by telling them theyre not truly free because look at the restrictions theyre putting on us. As part of the rules the troublemakers get banned, they now complain and are outraged that they got banned and they try and get others to 'realise' that they too dont have freedom. The intention is either to be allowed in but to be able to start fights and do what the wont or to completely destabilise the new area so they can make trouble and start fights. Keep in mind they are free to go and make their own playground area, they just dont want to because they want to have an affect on others. This is what i think is the case with youtube

I feel his pain on this one like everyone here probably does to some degree. I had to come to the conclusion, as sad as it is, that those i care for and, even on a wider scale lots of people in pain in the world, will never realise true freedom or liberation or even accept it as a possibility. Mooji says something like 'what you have learned here always take it with you but dont preach, be silent about it', paraphrasing but preaching unfortunately doesnt work or at least it will probably turn as many people away as you might influence positively. The best way is just to take it in your life and radiate that peace and authenticity, if things come up in conversation or youre asked then talk about it. It is probably the most frustrating thing about this journey, its like seeing those you life torturing themselves daily and also complaining about it but then when you try and help they get offended or think youre crazy. I still get urges to tell people but luckily im pretty much past it

I wouldve said it was open mindedness but i dont think its completely true, i think they get caught up in dogma, conspiracies usually have a foundation of distrust in the government. Most spiritual people will not agree with the government on a lot of points, so it doesnt take that much to then stretch to a convenient answer that ties in like a conspiracy. Also if you notice the spiritual youtube people that believe in conspiracies tend to be younger, Ralph Smart, Teal Swan, that Aaron guy, whereas older people like Sadhguru, Mooji, Tolle, are actually telling people not to get caught up in them and start panicking or just not really addressing them at all. I think thats telling, for me personally ive always listened to the older guys, i appreciate the younger ones have value and have listened to them if a particular topic interests me, but i find myslef often disagreeing or just not resonating with them as much. I think Leo has mentioned the problems with awakening and trying to teach at a young age before

That would make sense except for the fact the USA have the highest amount of deaths by gun in the developed world. I also dont see how theyre more 'free' than any other countries, when compared to most other wealthy countries they have the longest working hours, shortest holidays, higher rates of poverty. What makes them more free, the fact they can sit in the wilderness with an assault rifle?

@Someone here you might find this conversation between neuro scientist David eagleman and sadhguru interesting -

@Someone here As far as I know science hasn't worked out what consciousness is or even if it comes from the brain. The observer doesn't dissappear it will always be there, but your ability to communicate it may not be. Do you have any studies that scientists have worked out consciousness?

Who told you America is the best country in the world? (I'm guessing America) in most rankings and criteria they are way behind other developed countries https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2019/01/07/greatest-country-face-this-earth-not-even-close/BOjGLize9H7OiX33J2c2MO/story.html The other thing is you really don't have to be left or right just follow the truth. If you look you can find 'bad' and 'good' points on both sides, what matters is truth. Also for your comparison you would have to live in a more socialist country to make that judgement, live in a progressive European country for a while and then compare it to America.

@Someone here Yes your state can be changed but there's always a witness of these changes. For example something can make me angry but I'm not the anger, there is a witness of the anger. Using your example of my blood sugar my state will change maybe mentally and physically but how would I even know that without witnessing it? So we're not talking about something mystical, however you're defining it, we're talking about something specifically experiential. There is an observed which is the sensations in your body, emotions whatever anything that is within your observation. Then there is the observer, this is the witness of everything observed, it is impossible to observe this because if you were able to observe it then that would be the observed. The observer is what we're saying consciousness is, this can be accessed by dropping any attachment to what's being observed, even if its temporarily, this is what you truly are. It's not mystical it's just changing your perspective

@Someone here science works within a materialist paradigm but how we observe anything is through our consciousness, however science has no clue what consciousness even is. Consciousness can't be observed because we are it, the mind exists within consciousness as we are able to witness our thoughts. So spirituality is looking at the thing that is observing the mind, there is no way to observe it other than experentially and the attachment to mind has to be dropped to experience it. Science feels satisfying because it can build a structure that the mind can understand, but how can all truth and understanding in the universe be contained in our human minds? Must be more right?

@Keyhole we all have a fear response within us, which was and still is necessary for survival. It sees the world through this perspective because its one mission is to survive, it doesn't really care about truth. So yes this feels real, but is it the whole truth? not really. As humans we live in uncertainty, that something swift and world destroying can happen at any time, but that will always be the case, there's no getting away from that. It's easy to get attached to this perspective because it can be the loudest in our heads. Alan Watts said something like it's like if you mistook your security system for yourself. The question is what serves you and humans as a collective more, fear and uncertainty or love and understanding? There maybe an argument that fear can help motivate people to do things, and that's definitely true, but a lot of those things restrict growth and can have terrible outcomes (any war you can mention). Love and understanding can also be the absence of fear, truly world changing for the better examples have happened in this paradigm. Those that have communicated to the masses have lived on forever, jesus, gahndi, budda etc. So what I'm saying here is that being fearful is not the way to improve and grow humanity. It's a restrictive emotion that is just a way to survive. That doesn't mean we can get rid of it but we can see it for what it is and we can put less importance on it. Granted media doesn't help, but we have little control over that, what we do have control over is ourselves (kind of) so at the very least we don't need to spread fear through faulty information and we need to work to raise our consciousness'. Revolution only comes from inside people, external revolution because of fear is usually regression.

We've seen a lot of posts recently talking about how bad the world is and how those in power are out to kill us and control us. Although the world is far from perfect I would invite you to think of a better time in history that you would've preferred to be born in. Maybe you wanted to live through the world and countless other wars last century, maybe the 400 years of slavery and colonisation, maybe the feudal system mightve been fun or living under a monarchy, think your health are would've been good then? I can go on. Of course depends what you want to call better, but I would class things as highest ever life expectancy, highest ever iq, lowest infant mortality, access to unlimited information for everyone, opportunities to make money online, welfare systems, health care, least likely to die in a violent way. (yes all this things can and hopefully will be improved more) You get the idea, but the trajectory has always gone in a positive way. What I think the real conspiracy is, is that you believe that it's not good, we believe that it's evil, however that has happened, through movies, politicians whatever, a lot of people think this is a terrible time, it's simply not true in comparison to other times. What's noticable is that those pushing a fearful rhetoric are those trying to get into power. Marketing companies that try and tell you, you're not good as you are, have to make you think that otherwise you won't buy their products. You ultimately make your reality and I see so many not just on here, holding on to fear, all I'm saying let go, the world will keep improving dispite you fear, never because of it, your fear only holds up yourself.

My stance isnt fixed and nothing is as simple as good or bad, so i acknowledge what you could call good and bad things happen in the world. My point is that we all tend to focus on negative things which creates a reality that seems terrible when the truth of now is that its not as bad as we 'think' its just the positive side of perception is overlooked. To answer your question im not trying to hold on to a belief that the world is always amazing, im just trying to look at the whole thing. If a major disaster happened then i will feel how i feel in that moment i wouldnt ignore it. But humans always have a drive toward growth so if something terrible happened there would still be growth toward something better. What would you say is an accurate perception on the worlds progression at the moment?

@Husseinisdoingfine well they won't be found in that video that's been edited to an inch of its life

No ones saying to stay in a comfort bubble, theres lots of bad stuff happening in the world and my intent is not to deny that but to be grateful and have perspective of how far we've come. The trajectory is toward positive development, that doesnt mean get complacent or ignore suffering but dont dwell within fear that things are terrible and always getting worse. Even within the developing world things are improving - https://www.vox.com/2014/11/24/7272929/global-poverty-health-crime-literacy-good-news Raising consciousness means looking at things from a more complete perspective and i think because of survival instincts and bad habits we loose the full perspective and only focus on negative, all im saying is its far from the whole picture

Ok so do you think there was a better time in history for humanity as a whole, or a time you wouldve rather have been born? I dont know what the world would be like in the future and of course it continuing to get better relies on constant change. My point was was that we should take stock of where we are now compared to the past instead of living in fear constantly.

@DrewNows I was being a bit sarcastic lol but always love anyway ??

@DrewNows I'll be honest I have looked into a lot of this stuff and come to the conclusions I've come to. But of course there could be a higher position of which you're saying your at, where these facts and worldview that you have come together and create this reality you speak of. Maybe I'll have some kind of Awakening and one day find out, very excited as it seems a fun place to be. @Zanoni ????

@Someone here Awakening is your direct experience being expanded so yes there will be more to your current direct experience if you had an Awakening experience. Saying that there are atoms doesn't add something and isn't 'more' it's just a way to explain and understand something that is there using structures your mind could comprehend. It's like if you eat an apple and have that experience, the experience itself is the thing and will give you the best understanding of the taste of an apple. Not a book that describes the molecular structure of said apple. These descriptions are limited and more of a tool than anything

@Someone here well because majority of you is made up of hydrogen, the rest is oxygen and carbon. Also these atoms are interchangeable within you, so the same atoms that made you you 10 years ago won't be the same atoms that make you now. So how do you exist in a solid way?

@crab12@Leo Gura after a little research that's pretty much my conclusion too

@crab12 the downside would be the relatively high amount of gun deaths. 40,000 every year in the developed USA. So you'd have to weigh that with the upside. Honest question I'm not sure what the upside is, could you break it down for me?

Just throwing it in there but did you know a hydrogen atom is 99.9999999999996% empty space?

You might want to look into hocd, which is to do with having a fear of being gay. I think in general if you talk to a professional they'd be able to help you in this situation

@Verdesbird Japan doesn't have guns, population 127million but less than 10 gun deaths per year. USA 360 million population, guns legal, everyone has guns, 40,000 gun related deaths per year, how do you square that?