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It seems to me letting go is a big piece of the puzzle because there’s a lot of energy that goes into maintaining the self But I don’t feel like it’s the entire puzzle. It seems to me like my mind/brain somehow maintains a kind of core self without my own effort or doing

I think the openness you describe will lead to a gradual dissolution of the human structure, and all the neurosis that comes with it. Some non dual people talk about how there’s natural change to the human structure that happens after enlightenment. So in the end it will lead to what spirituality talks about, the elimination of the human structure, at least to significant degree. Because the human structure is deeply flawed in the way that it causes a lot of suffering, almost any pleasure except sensory pleasure comes with attachment, so it has its backside, when someone is on vacation they’re afraid of having to go home. When someone is performing well they’re afraid of failing. Even the sensory pleasures that has not to do with self image has a backside: addiction. It’s wise to want to eliminate this structure. Because a lot of what you are , are your attachments. So to undo the attachments goes hand in hand with undoing what you are. It’s attacking the source of your suffering : you. It’s just that the approach fails. Because spirituality becomes another idea to get attached to, another identity, so it’s acting from the same structure you’re trying to dissolve. Unless it’s seen clearly it won’t be transcended. You need a kind of different approach, and the openness you talk about is an example of a different approach. That goes beyond the human structure. And it will lead to its undoing because there’s no longer energy directed into its maintenance

Smooth rizz .

LMAOOOO

I’m still waiting for the full alive and love part lol

It will all be intellectual if you don’t experience it yourself, regardless of what anyone said. I have had some spiritual experiences which have showed me what’s possible so that’s what I’m going from

Lol the insecurity

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I also thought it’s like “SOS mite aaaah” like someone is warning that there is a mite and is reacting by screaming aaah

It takes a special woman to recognize special men sometimes… Ceo as in Leo? LOL I swear when I was like 16 and started to watch Leo I have fantasized about him. I guess I’ve always been a special woman To not derail the thread….. Leo gura is a cool name because it sounds like guru

I find I can’t make my self “turn off”

How do you know they are imaginary?

It’s quite meta

It’s perfect if you wanna use this forum like a dating app LOL

LMAOOO that’s funny , I also thought there was something sensual about the “ah” like the “aaah” sound😂😂😂

@Natasha Tori Maru You look like you could be 25 in your profile pic

How you come to this knowledge, does openness to reality give you knowledge about how the mind works or can you be enlightened and clueless?

Isn’t the mind produced by the brain though so it has biological basis? Or is the mind like an independent thing ?

That’s cool thanks for sharing. I have recently been looking into legal substances to try because I live with my parents and they once found my drugs so I’m hesitant to try something illegal again so I’m glad when someone shares something like this. Sometimes I get astral projection and when I chose to travel down into the ground I can sometimes end up in this vast black space. I don’t consider it infinity though but I don’t really know what it is, I guess it’s my mind imagining an underground world

Maybe it is possible to get in contact with a being from a spiritual plane , under for example astral projection, and gain information from them about this. Developing psychic abilities may also help

I think so too

I feel like it’s my brain doing this “ self sense”. But maybe I’m wrong.

Maybe they mean the regular reality as average human knows it. Reality of separation. Nothingness etc is beyond that

Just because something is internal doesn’t mean it’s your making. You might be identified with thoughts, the voice and the image, you identify as the thinker. But in the same way you are the breather, but you don’t control your breath as you go about your day, in same way you don’t control your thoughts when you go about your day. Stopping thought that arise with force is like a use of willpower. It’s possible to stop with will power, but the thoughts will keep arising with force over and over as long as you don’t resolve the deeper issue. Which is that your thoughts are arising secondary to your psyche, at the same time as your psyche contain your thoughts. You need to break down that aspect of your psyche related to the repetitive thoughts to stop them from arising, will power isn’t sustainable it’s a temporary solution for most. As long as the psyche is intact your thoughts will keep arising. By “your psyche” I also mean your sense of self It’s possible to overcome suffering even if not 100% your own making. So don’t be afraid of recognizing that

By dissolving the self