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@Serotoninluv Haha I guess the 4-aco gave you just the final push you needed to get you out the door and into freefall.

@phoenix666 Your right. It can take years, or even a lifetime to wear the ego down. That all depends on you. But if you want enlightenment bad enough. And have searched every corner of the mind in a futile attempt to find it there. The ego at some point will finally give in and surrender fully. In a way, when we start this journey, it is the doing of the ego making it happen. 'I'm on the road to becoming enlightened'. And in a sense you are. But it doesn't happen on your terms. No No No Not quite. This universe is much wiser than you and has already got you by the balls. You just don't know it yet. When you surrender you realize what is really happening here. And you see through the illusion of the ego and the spell it has placed over you. And it's true that you can't deny the ego. It's always going to be there. You learn to live with it. But you find that it's just something very insignificant happing in the grand scheme of things. It's just there doing it's little thing. In other words, it no longer defines what you are.

@Pure Imagination It's not luck. We where all much closer to enlightenment when we were very young. As we got older, most of us got farther away from the truth of what is. If you recede backwards through 'your' life it will become quite apparent that something special has been obscured by the egoic self identity that has evolved over time through experience. Go back in the direction you came. Dwell in the original 'I am' at the core of what is you. We all had it at one point. It is the gateway to transcendence. I hear so many people saying they are hoping for enlightenment to happen at some time in the future. I say no - Go back instead. Go back so far that you literally exit the door you came in through.

@egoless All meditation techniques are there for one purpose. To aid you in the surrender of the illusion of the individual self. To bring you into full realization of what you really are behind the mask of self that you have created out of nothing. To break the illusion that 'you' exist as a somebody. You could do that this moment if you choose to. What I'm saying is, don't be waiting for some magical thing to happen at some future time or at another place through any meditation technique. Only you can make it happen and it only ever happens in the moment of now. You will see that when it does happen. You will say 'I was looking all over for it and it was right in front of me the whole time'. It's all you! Nothing else can show you what you are. Only you can do that. Here is a good example. Take skydiving for instance. Meditation can be seen as the vehicle (airplane) that aids you to your objective. But it's you and you only that decides when it's time to jump. I'm saying this through direct experience of my own. I meditated for years waiting for the meditation to make something happen. And nothing did until one day I took a leap of faith on my own and Boom! there it was the whole time. I was riding the airplane for years but I wasn't jumping out into the all important free fall. I didn't realize I had to consciously jump on my own and take the leap of faith. Maybe I thought the airplane (meditation) was going to do the jumping for me? haha Wrong! *The effectiveness of any meditation is totally your responsibility.

@Danda Sure. Practice dropping the "I" from that sentence. Consciousness aware of consciousness. No ownership. A little off the subject but check out this video of Mooji. It's a good one. He points directly to enlightenment. "Are you in front of the lens of the absolute? Or are you behind the lens of the absolute?" -or both? That may help to answer your question.

@Danda The absolute allows the space in which infinite perspectives may arise. Infinite perspectives of even itself. Whether someone is fully awakened, slightly awakened, or nowhere near awakened "robot without consciousness" each needs to be seen (and respected) as separate aspects of the infiniteness of the absolute. Sooner or later all separate individual perspectives will come to full realization that the many is really the one. Even though for some that may not happen until their last breath. But that too would be just one of the infinite possibilities of perspectives to be experienced before the separate beingness folds back into the absolute. 'On the absolute beingness appears- and out of that comes illusion. And the illusion occupies the truth'. The truth is there are no perspectives. For there to be perspectives there would have to be two. So that's my perspective of infinite perspectives arising on the absolute. Cherish each for it's uniqueness and have compassion when the individual perspective suffers. It wants nothing more than to find it's way home.

Just found this and had to share.

@WaveInTheOcean If it's scientific evidence you require, your on the wrong forum.

You know what you are not. What you are you cannot know.

@ThirdEyeSees God is more here than you are. Mooji

On the absolute beingness appears. And out of that comes illusion. And the illusion occupies the truth. Nisargadatta

@xeeky4 What feels like it never ends- ego?

Constantly return to that point from where you seem to have come -and see if you have really come.

I feel like Dorothy in The wizard of OZ having the realization it's needless to look anywhere else but here.

@Nahm Thanks. Like I said, it's been quite a while for me. But I can remember that what goes up must come down. But still, just to switch it up for a couple hours with some shrooms may do me a world of good at this point. Even if it's just to remind me of what's real- this. I just read something @Azraelsaid about 5-Meo vs. just sitting that was very timely and absolutely true.

@Nahm I'm thinking of partaking in some shrooms to break free of this dry spell I've been in. It's been quite a while for me though. But I'm seriously thinking about it.

@Nahm Yea. I think your right. I'm going to look into it real soon.

@Nahm I never heard that one. So true.

@Nahm The mind is naturally fine tuned to depth of field mostly for survival. If you where a caveman, you would need to know how far away a saber toothed tiger is so you know when it's time to start running your ass off. It's sweet to have the option to override depth perception when it's not needed.

@WelcometoRealityNo. But you have a point there. Don't confuse effort with results.

@WelcometoReality Don't make me laugh. You don't think I've thought about it. At this point I'd lock myself in a closet if that's what it takes.

@WelcometoRealityNo, it's not the ego being threatened. I would love to threaten the ego. In a big way! Maybe I'm needing something a bit more than just the meditation and video's at this point, It's been a long time since I 'partook'. I'm thinking about it.