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@Big Guru Balls That some dope shit there! You know what they say "When you can't dazzle em' with facts- baffle em' with bull shit".

@Faceless Yes It can most easily be identified because it exists in the past or the future. A tell tale sign.

The mental center ego/mind is a formatory apparatus. Identification with the formatory apparatus, also known as "talking in the head" or "staying in the head' is staying centered in the ego. When the mind becomes silent and attuned to the now the formatory apparatus naturally dissipates. @Faceless sometimes refers to this as "Headlessness".

B-c otherwise you're doing it mindlessly like a mindless robot. Repeating the same old patterns unconsciously. Take someone who is addicted to nicotine for instance. They may light a cigarette and smoke it without realizing they smoked another and another just out of mindless habit. Then before they realize it the whole pack is gone. Most times they will think to themselves "Wow, did I smoke that whole pack already?" Only when one becomes consciously aware of theses patterns than can they take charge and break free of them.

@Itay Spiegel Inner silence. When we stop the mind, we stop the world. Then everything becomes clearly seen.

@Cortex Sweet!

@Cortex This is all a distraction. Enough with the woo-woo paranormal stuff and things that go bump in the night.

@Itay Spiegel When nothing remains, that is the absolute.

@Cortex Relax, that's just the ego putting up a hissy fit. With a little scary imagination thrown in too just to make sure you stay in its clutches.

@Ingit Anytime you think your in a body your using "ghost powers". My ghost powers are hitting these keys now.

@Cortex@Widdle Puppy For a brief moment consciousness became liberated from the body/mind location. That is reality. Not consciousness being held captive at a body/mind location. That is illusion. Albeit a persistent one. The "ghost in the machine" that is.

@Cortex Nice! Just for conversation- this should make sense to you. Someone was asking during the week about what meditation technique to use because there are so many and nothing is really working for them. My suggestion was just practice being the "empty screen of consciousness". Sounds like you've found what I was referring to. No thoughts of self, no thoughts of time passing, no sense of space. All thoughts are left behind and all that remains is empty awareness. It's like a vacation from all the mental activity that usually goes on. This is why it's sometimes said "meditation is more restful than sleep". Even during sleep there is still mental activity. Meditation goes beyond that. It is the fourth state of consciousness and unless it is directly experienced through practice most ppl would never know it exists.

@luismatos Don't miss this one!

Your whole life is a way of discovering what you are. Keep the possibilities wide open. Let it not be limited to what the mind believes to be true.

@Ingit Than your close to experiencing something your not yet ready for. Hang back and just let it slowly gel. Don't go to fast.

@Ingit Or maybe your awake for the first time and all that was before was just a dream.

@Ingit Don't fight it. Something is happening. Expand beyond the self so you understand what the self really is.

There is nothing that transforms into something. That could be a trap. Consciousness is always present. It's just overshadowed by the mind b-c it's subtle so easily hidden. Here is another something that Ramana said that may apply. Paraphrasing here: When digging a well the hole is always there. One only needs to remove the dirt that's filling it. You gotta think about that one for a moment.

@pluto8 I was just listening to Ramana "What is the self"- something close to that. Anyway he was saying the 3 "states" waking, dreaming and deep sleep all happen on the blank screen of consciousness. And listening to that I thought becoming one with the empty screen of consciousness is what deep meditation is IMO. So that being said to be at one with consciousness one would need to turn the attention away from the activities of mind and allow thoughts to fall away on their own. No pushing away, no following. Just allow them to subside of their own as they are just projections on the screen of consciousness. With continued practice the blank screen of consciousness will slowly become more evident as you move away from the projection of mind/thought.

@Sashaj This is kind of deep but here's a paraphrase of Nisargadatta "That which witnesses your birth and your death".

@Sashaj That's something worth contemplating

@Samra This was hidden in the vaults for 50 years. 1946 it was made.

@SomethingFromNothing Turn the question around. How can nothing emerge out of something? Where does something go when it is no more? Or does nothing emerge out of something? Or is nothing -something and something- nothing. Maybe it's all cyclical in nature and dancing an infinite dance from nothing to something to nothing to something. Maybe-it's all an illusion.

@SoonHei Search- "Akashic Records"