JuliusCaesar

Thank you for you input, your perspective is appreciated. Though I can't say it's entirely logical. As Tenskwatawah dictated that William Henry Harrison and every President elected 20 years after him were to die in office(which has occurred 7/9 times, and the last 2 had failed assassination attempts). I see no reason that they should die by assasination(since it wasn't declared they would necessarily die in that way). He also commanded that "everyone remember the deaths of my people"(implying Americans would feel guilty about what early European settlers did to the Indians) whenever these Presidents would die which has certainly transpired also. Furthermore, Tenskwatawah issued the command in 1813 a whole 27 years prior to William Henry Harrison getting elected. Which clearly demonstrates that either Tenskwatawah foreknew that Harrison would become President or he made it to occur by implication(his command would have been impossible to fulfill if Harrison didn't get elected). I'm not trying to force you to believe anything, but certainly you can see why I suspect rather strongly that there was real magick involved.

Okay, I'm just 2 minutes in and already he's made so many false statements(that is things that are contrary my first hand experiences of sober reality) that I'm having a difficult time believing anyone could genuinely think such nonsense. I'll try to keep in mind his level of development, and to restrain myself from using ad hominem as much as possible(though some will slip through anyway). At 44 secs in, he demonstrates his ignorance of the arguments being presented(as well as more importantly the true nature of the universe). So, let me just be clearly in saying that there is nothing confusing about Quantum Physics(perhaps it appears so to knuckle dragging mortals, but not to us). So his number 1 statement is probably a caricature of the actual arguments(and perhaps some people oversimplify them into something similar to what Professor Dave appeared to be strawmanning). Furthermore, there isn't anything "magical" about magick/supernatural phenomena. Things like precognition, telekinesis etc all operate by natural laws just as the planets in your solar system move in accordance with universal gravitation. Dave also says that one must know the math to truly comprehend QM, and the power lies exclusively in it. This is illogical however, as any physicist who actually knows the math will tell it's impossible to understand QM. For example, Richard Feynman once stated in a interview, "If you think you understand quantum mechanics, you don't understand quantum mechanics". And to paraphrase Niels Bohr "Anyone who is not shocked by quantum theory has not understood it." If you listen to the real experts on this matter, they will all tell you that QM is essentially inherently magical and humanly incomprehensible. There is a nugget a truth in this notion, as QM blatantly exposes the paradoxical nature of reality. And paradoxical logic is something elusive to the human mind, because it appears to be self-contradictory. And if it contradicts itself surely it can't be true humans think. But overwhelming experimental data shows clearly that reality doesn't operate under the same limitations as with which the human mind is comfortable. Now referring back to his original two statements. There's some delicious irony in his number 2. "If magic can be framed using the terminology of quantum mechanics, that magic is real." First of all, it isn't just framed using the terminology of QM, but literally using correct understanding of the principles of QM's laws that leads to the notion that magic is real. Secondly, Professor Dave has got it backwards. Because it's vastly easier to test magickal phenomena yourself than to test QM. Unless you've got a particle accelerator in your backyard, you don't have a snowball's chance in hell of verifying the validity of the experiments which substantiate QM. With magick however, you could read books on magickal subjects taken off the internet. Let's say in the field of Conjuration Magick(manipulating reality by appealing to non corporeal beings from higher dimensions to do your bidding) for example. You could just within 40 hours of study gain a rather wide perspective on the topic(that is relative to rituals and how they are purportedly done correctly). And then test a dozen different rituals/ways of doing conjuration and measure the results. If you've found a genuine ritual and assuming you've done it correctly, then you'd know you did real magick due to the unbelievable results that arose. Now mind you, I've never done any conjuring myself, I've only used this as an example because I'm going to discuss one of my own experiences in the next paragraph. Now you may be wondering, "But Caesar, why do you believe in QM at all if you haven't directly verified the experiments done at the subatomic level?" Because it's laws comport with my direct experience of reality(that is of things you would call supernatural/paranormal). And they explain what I've experienced better than any other model of physics(Newtonian Cartesian dynamics for example totally fails to account for these things). One such example, is one day a few months ago I had chanted HAM(the a sounds like the a in father but other than that it's the same as the English word for the upper leg meat of a pig) for 90 minutes. I was in my parents house at the time, and they had lost the remote to the television. There was tremendous commotion around that, and we seemed to search every logical place it could be. Then my dad decided to buy a new remote, and I had a most unusual response to this. Feeling some kind of energy that I can only describe as being like pure power or even emptiness, I made a decree "You will buy a new remote, and before it arrives you will find the old one". Sure enough, the next day he comes into the house from outside and sees a vision of the remote lying on top of the couch(a place we had searched very thoroughly) and then he goes straight to it and finds the remote in one of it's crevasses(which is one of the areas he had searched the day prior). When he told me what had happened to him, he felt distraught saying that I wouldn't believe him. And I laughed within myself having realized that I had essentially performed mind control on him via sooth saying. How is the above relevant to QM? To understand this, you must know that my dad had tried in a rather unsuccessful way(probably because he lacked the serious desire to work) to gain psychic abilities for many months prior. On the one hand there's a chain of causality involved there(my command might have been fulfilled differently had he not attempted to become psychic). On the other however, is the fact that his magickal workings no matter how impotent, and mine were intertwined. Such that my magick can't be referred to independently of his. This is precisely the same kind of entanglement which occurs on the quantum level. Which is called Quantum Entanglement. Now you might accuse me of making a leap in logic. And to some extent you might be correct, I don't truly know that the microscopic universe behaves the same way magick does on the level of the macroscopic. Because I simply don't have direct knowledge of how exactly Quantum Entanglement occurs in the lab, if it does at all. But my intuition tells me that the similarity of phenomena cannot be reasonably ignored. So I accept Quantum Entanglement because I assume it's the same entanglement I've experienced doing magick. As always, I must now cite a third person experience of the same phenomena. This message is getting long, and I feel it would be better to make a separate thread to make my citation. As the phenomenon is 1. Publicly verifiable and 2. Too detailed to cover here. Quantum Entanglement points to the law of oneness. Which is essentially that the multiplicity of beings/objects in the universe is an illusion. Objectively it's all the same thing in an absolute sense. Or at least, the magickal form of entanglement I've experienced does this. Referring back to my first person experience example. If I were somehow truly separate from a, my dad and b, the future occurrence in which he fulfilled my command. Then it should be impossible that my command be fulfilled, or at least it would need to occur in a way which is irrelative of me(which is unlikely given the nature of my experiences). The only way such phenomena is logically possible is if I'm in fact the same thing as my dad, and the event that transpired, as well him trying fruitlessly to gain certain psychic abilities. In the same way that I am my body, and I am the same as my body, therefore I can command it's nerves to move at will, simply by thinking about it. In conclusion, I don't believe I can watch the whole video without writing a book about why Professor Dave is wrong, which I believe would be reminiscent of Galileo's book where he insulted the Pope's intelligence for not buying into Heliocentric Theory. As I've written all of this and also started an entirely separate thread just in response to the first two minutes.

It's the practical utility humans that can find in psychedelics which make them marketable. Because at our current stage of development, the species is too selfish to consider anything else as useful. Now, there are publicly traded companies here in America administering psilocybin to subjects with anxiety and depression. And with great clinical results thus far. I believe we're on just now encroaching on the frontier of globally normalized psychedelics. We're likely only decades perhaps even just years away from seeing serious moves to decriminalize and then finally legalize various hallucinogens, starting with psilocybin of course.

It seems to be as I hypothesized. 5-MeO induces a higher sensitivity to psychedelics probably due to it's reverse tolerance effect. I think if you did DMT first you'd have a more ordinary experience with it. But since you did 5-MeO first and did it so many times, DMT just takes you a similar place that 5-MeO would.

@Leo Gura Did you do 5 MEO DMT prior to doing DMT or the other way around? And if you did 5 MEO first, did you do the nearly 30 days straight experiment prior to doing DMT?

You're assuming it's impossible to travel back in time to meet Jesus. If you became omnipotent this would be easy for you. Furthermore, you're assuming there aren't indirect ways of verifying/falsifying these kinds of claims. Relative to the latter, I suggest you read the works of Ivan Panin and verify the math(I've done so personally). There are also other ways of testing these notions(like remote viewing/omniscience) but of course, you would have to reach a level of competency(in remote viewing for instance) where you know that your intuitions are correct and not merely egoically generated noise. Which you would determine by well, using it to predict the future for example. You'd probably have difficulty infallibly knowing things at first(especially if you just up and tried to remote view without any training). But there are ways for you to improve(and of course, you would need to verify that you've actually improved). There isn't anything woo woo or even unscientific to magick. And naturally I'm referring to real magick not the stage magic of illusionists, or the pretend magick of phony or even just incompetent sorcerers. Furthermore it's also possible to test the veracity of biblical texts through statistical analysis of the relations it's gematria has to natural law for example(I'm referring back to the work of Ivan Panin here). Obviously in some sense it's easier to measure things in the present than in the past. He's trying to articulate a certain existential truth about reality that you're likely not prepared for(the only way to do that would be to become the thing in question). Namely, the paradoxical nature of reality. Even logic will wind up contradicting itself if you take it far enough. An example Leo loves to cite is the following. "This statement is false". In order for the statement to be false, it must be true that the statement is false. However, if it's true that the statement is false, then the statement must be true as it's our only source here(from which the truth of the statement's falseness can be derived). And the statement obviously can't be true because it proclaims itself to be a false(so in that instance it would be true and false simultaneously as well). So the only alternative is that it's actually in fact true. And in that case, all falsehood is true(because in order to exist it has to be true, as truth is all there is). Now of course, we all use logic to understand reality, and if we didn't we don't know how we would be. As it would likely undermine our capacity to survive, we might even cease to be(as a species). So we use logic for the same reason that Newtonian Mechanics are still used in physics. Not because there's some kind of absolute truth to Newton's laws(QM and GR are both better substantiated but contradict Newton), but because they work where we use them, in the same way logic applies to our experiences(that even includes things which seem to be completely illogical to us).

Thank you for answering candidly. I was expecting either that you'd give me an inaccurate answer or that I'd discover you have a fully omniscient servitor. Don't ask me why I didn't anticipate the possibility that you might have some occult competency but not yet a high level of it(which is actually similar to where I am currently).

@Danioover9000 A question for her, is she aware of what I'm doing now? Like my main objective in life. And if so, does she have any advise to give me?

Hahaha "just a trip" he says.

5 MEO DMT definitely has reverse tolerance(when you do it, you become more sensitive to it as opposed to less). So if you do back to back sessions the experience will become potentiated. The same is true of NM-DMT, and Salvia as well. Other psychedelics like LSD and Psilocin however create tolerance so you definitely want to wait until you reach baseline(which takes something like two weeks) before you do them again. As otherwise you'll need to take exponentially larger doses to trip with the same intensity as the first time(which gets expensive quickly).

I agree, what I meant was you could or perhaps should verify that the mushrooms you've bought have the appropriate taxonomy. That's what I had in mind basically for basic analysis(not lab work).

For starters, I'd usually trust a supermarket on the basis that it's unlikely they're selling falsified or dangerous products. As hundreds and thousands and even tens and hundreds of thousands of people usually have shopped there. And if they had consumed poisonous mushrooms and died, then in the highly litigious environment we have in the US, the supermarket would have suffered financial and reputational repercussions, and consequently would remove the dangerous products from their shelves. Of course, that's not an infallible standard, because for instance consider the widespread use of DDT in the forties and fifties. A period where no one knew of it's deleterious impact on mobility(in humans exposed to significant quantities of the pesticide). But generally speaking, it works most of the time, thus the common sense notion that you can trust your local Walmart or Costco generally holds true. Also, you're referring to Agaricus Bisporus? You can distinguish them from similar mushrooms with a different taxonomy that are poisonous. For instance, some mushrooms of the Amanita species are lethal but appear incredibly similar to A. bisporus. Because the former may be distinguished by their volva or cup at the base of the mushroom and pure white gills (as opposed to pinkish or brown of A. bisporus). Naturally, you could kill yourself consuming the wrong mushrooms. It isn't that the mushrooms are somehow fake. Just that Psilocybin bearing mushrooms oftentimes bear great similarity to other mushrooms which are deadly poisonous. Therefore, it's possible to acquire a lethal variant from a source which doesn't know how to determine the difference between certain species. If you bought the whole mushroom, then you can analyze it yourself. If you bought crushed powder, you can subject it to either a home test kit such as the Ehrlich reagent. Or if you're more rigorous, you could send it into a lab for GC/MS as that's a non specific test which would give you a complete and accurate report on all the constituents contained in the powder.

How are you verifying that your mushrooms are legitimate? Have you done them yourself or verified their species by firsthand analysis? Or if they arrive in a powder form, have you subjected them to some kind of chemical test?

I've been practicing lucid dreaming for most of the past three years. And yeah it's difficult to gain any proficiency. The most sucess I've had is with listening to a binaural track created by the Monroe Institute(while sleeping). I've mostly avoided using it again because of noise but I've recently returned to using it.

Causality is imaginary. Just like everything else in the dream.

Precisely. Well, it is different from religious faith in a sense. But not because theology/religion is necessarily outside the realm of all possible science. Religious/theological claims can be tested scientifically. It's just the kind of testing necessary would likely be considered balderdash by most of today's scientists and thus religions are unlikely to actually to see any observational scrutiny(at least, from the majority of mainstream researchers). Instead what usually occurs is either the researchers take things on blind faith(because they belong to that specific religion) or they write it all off as nonsense without bothering to even conceive of ways to verify/falsify the claims being made.

For LSD the Hofmann reagent would usually be a secondary test you'd use after testing with Ehrlich. Mind you the Ehrlich alone should be sufficient, you'd use the Hofmann test after just to be thorough. And yes, Hofmann has a specific reaction to DMT, but so does the Ehrlich reagent so I'm not entirely certain if one is superior to the other. But to answer your question in a simple way, no you don't really need to test the substance with more than one reagent. At his age his brainwaves throughout the day predominate mostly at the mid beta range(they tend to correlate to age on a 1hz to 1 year ratio). So his ego is fairly concrete, almost as much as a 20 year old. If he were very young, like say 6 years old. Then his ordinary state of consciousness would predominately fall in mid to upper Theta(about 6hz). And because of the highly suggestive state of awareness of Theta, it seems logical to anticipate that such an individual would be at greater risk of developing HPPD. Therefore I'll stipulate that what you're saying is hypothetically possible if unlikely. And yes, ideally he should probably wait until he's older just to ere on the side of caution. But frankly I fail to see any significant difference between him and say an 18 year old that would warrant such precautions. And perhaps more importantly, he's already endeavored to study these matters to have become knowledgeable about the substances and home test kits commonly used. And he's even acquired the substances themselves. The point I'm making is his actions are consistent with someone who is determined to do these substances regardless of what you or anyone else tells him. So if you want to dissuade him, at the very least you'll need as much assistance as possible. The problem is(for you), that you haven't yet convinced me your argument is solid enough to warrant such behaviour from me. I don't mean to pry, but I'd like to hear you expound on this. Because without specifics I'm forced to speculate that you did LSD at his age(or at an age comparable to his) and it caused HPPD in you. The issue with this is I don't know what dose you took, or if the substance you did even truly was LSD unless you give me details. And so I can't hardly draw conclusions on the basis of such speculations. And so the only thing I can say that's of value here is that HPPD is a risk an individual at any age is taking whenever they do hallucinogens which modify visual perception greatly(LSD and DMT are in that basket of drugs). And the degree of risk is directly proportional to dose size. At a microdose it's nearly impossible. But at a mega dose in the range of around 1000 micrograms plus it becomes very likely to occur. Even in individuals not predisposed to the condition. I advise you not to motherhen him to death, it's very likely to backfire. That last paragraph is logically sound, but I'm uncertain if it'll do any good.

That's a valid point, not specifically for young individuals but anyone considering doing the drug. It holds less water the lower the dose however. And in general it should be overall beneficial unless he does an excessive dose.

No he did it in college. However, this doesn't detract from my statement in any way. Much of the relevant observational data would lead us to believe that LSD is highly beneficial to the human brain. Naturally, it needs to done in appropriate dosage, but I fail to comprehend this bias towards individuals with "underdeveloped brains" using the substance. And furthermore, why anyone would suggest he do cannabis when there are studies clearly demonstrating that it may curb neural development is beyond me. It seems they've over-prioritized the subjective safety element of things. It's clear you've done your homework. Yes it's good that you've used them, as they will at least indicate whether the substance is likely to be dangerous(25-iNbome reacts very differently to these reagents than LSD does for example). I would still GC/MS them to be absolutely certain there aren't any contaminants. But, you're drastically safer taking LSD you've tested with the aforementioned reagents then otherwise.

@Insightful27 Don't allow the irrational fearmongering influence you. LSD has powerful cognition enhancing properties such as neuroprotection. If you give a 100 micrograms to a drunk he becomes sober with minutes. Of course, this is assuming the substance you have truly is LSD. I know you've been careful in utilizing home test kits, but if I were you I'd still subject my substances to GC/MS before administration. You can never be too rigorous in validating chemicals originating from potentially unscrupulous sources. Relative to dosing, start small. Do maybe 100 mics or even less, the state of consciousness it creates does in some ways will inhibit your basic survival capacity. But remember, that enhancing yourself isn't totally inconsistent with survival. Steve Jobs was an avid user of LSD for example, and he did an incredible job of prospering financially. All that is necessary is that you find some productive way to serve society, you need not challenge yourself to do it purely from a human state of consciousness. As for DMT, don't even consider it until you've familiarized yourself with LSD through direct experience. It's on an entirely different level of potency, and can potentially induce some mild psychosis.

This is precisely the basis upon which the scientific community rejected heliocentric theory for so many centuries. Stellar parallax had never demonstrated to exist because it's so subtle that no one had the means to discover it until the advent of powerful telescopes. Think about it like this, if we sent you back 500 years in time and tried to explain the wonders of the modern world(modern technology) to people. They would think you're some kind of dystopian dreamer and likely label you a warlock and burn you at the stake. So appealing to popular opinion is far from rational, and appealing to empiricism is also irrational(see my first post). At the end of the day, you'll need to verify things firsthand to truly know their validity. This is reasonable, though you have to keep in mind that absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. In my direct experience this is so. I would have to mention more of my experiences with it. And I don't believe it would be beneficial to you to hear them as you'd still need firsthand experience of these things in order to determine their validity anyway. And me telling you accounts of my experiences is no different to you than listening for example to the experience of Dr. Dispenza's daughter, or anyone else for that matter. At the time I probably would have drawn the same conclusion had I not had a dream beforehand which predicted the event in advance(albeit in a highly cryptic way, which at the time of waking up I didn't fully comprehend). It's good that you're open minded enough to entertain the possibility that you might be wrong. In ancient times this was more difficult. But because we have access to modern transportation, this doesn't really hold for us. If you want to know how the Sun travels through the sky from the Equator, you just buy a plane ticket to Ecuador or a country which is similarly proximate. And if you want to know how it appears from Alaska in December, you just fly to Alaska etc etc. If you did this experiment, you'd find angular deviation in the Sun's diurnal arc between the two locations. Which should be impossible on a flat earth(you'd see the objects in the sky travelling at the same angle from every point on the Earth, as there's no curvature to tilt one point away from the other). I hope I've sort of simplified my argument a bit, though there was more to it than just what I have articulated here.

The only reason psychedelics are illegal is because the existing power structures are scared shitless of them.

So I've conceived of a meditation method that uses graduality and the human desire to progress(that is the dopamine you feel when you think you've made progress), as well as the human tendency to prefer happiness to basically trick you into meditating long hours. So it goes like this, you sit down and meditate(I mean do Vipassana by focusing on your breath with closed eyes) for 1 minute. Then you start over and increase it to 2, then to 3, then to 4 etc etc. So all you need to do this is a timer(which you have on your computer/phone) and a comfortable chair, and some free time in order to do this. The idea is to do it with the mindset of trying to beat your high score. So this technique makes use of many of the same human weakness that video games exploit. The math for this breaks down like this. 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10=55 11+12+13+14+15+16+17+18+19+20=155 21+22+23+24+25+26+27+28+29+30=255 31+32+33+34+35+36+37+38+39+40=355 41+42+43+44+45+46+47+48+49+50=455 51+52+53+54+55+56+57+58+59+60=555 Thus by this method it takes 55 minutes to meditate 10 minutes straight, 3 and a half hours to meditate for 20 minutes(55+155=210/60=3.5). 7 and three quarter hours to meditate for 30 minutes(55+155+255=465/60=7.75). 13 and two third hours to meditate for 40 minutes(55+155+255+355=820/60=13.6667). 21 and a quarter hours to meditate for 50 minutes(455+355+255+155+55=1275/60=21.25). And 30 and one half hours to meditate for a full hour(555+455+355+255+155+55=1830/60=30.5). If you've hit the one hour mark(30.5 hours of meditation) I recommend you raise the incremental variable of increase from 1 minute to 10. So, meditate for an hour, then an hour and 10 minutes etc. The math on that looks like this. 60+70=130+80=210+90=300+100=400+110=510+120=630. So it takes 10 and a half hours(630/60=10.5) to go from 1 hour to 2 hours of meditation, or 41 hours to go from a beginner to a 2 hour long meditator by this method. Once at 2 hours, I'd say make the incremental increase 15 minutes. The math on that is like this, 120+135=355+150=505+165=670+180=850. Therefore it takes 14 hours and ten minutes to advance from 2 hour to 3 hour meditation. And 51 hours and ten minutes to go from beginner to 3 hour meditator. Then once you've done that, increase the rate of incremental increase to 30 minutes. The math looks like this, 180+210=390+240=630. So it takes 10 and a half hours to progress from a 3 hour meditator to 4 hours. Or 61 hours and ten minutes of meditation overall to go from beginner to 4 hour meditator. At this point, you're probably more adept than the vast majority of meditators in the world(seeing as most of them probably can't do more than 15 minutes). So I'd say up the rate of incremental increase to 1 hour. So the math looks like this. 4+5=9+6=15+7=22+8=30. Thus it takes 30 hours to go from a 4 hour meditator to an 8 hour one by this method. Or, 91 hours and ten minutes of meditation to go from beginner to 8 hour meditator. If you've made it this far, you've progressed to such a high level of mastery, that you could probably meditate 24 hours a day if you wanted to fairly easily. If you went on one of those 10 day Vipassana retreats you'd find it exceptionally easy. And if you manage to keep that up for 120 hours straight(according to Sadhguru) you'd open your third eye and become like Lord Shiva. Of course, doing nothing for 5 days straight, no eating/drinking/urinating/defecating/sleeping/even opening your eyes is a formidable task. Even if you can meditate 8 hours straight. So you'd need to apply the concept of graduality to your practice on the level of days now. I have an alternate method, one that actually I'm using myself(the main one I loved in my mind but realized another variant that would be better for me specifically). This method draws on the same logic as the other. Only it's intentionally designed for the purpose of inducing lucid dreams. Which I'm seeking after for their practical value, as you can do magickal things about 1000x easier in a dream than in the waking world, and it can be used to affect consensus reality. So the idea is to meditate just before going to sleep only. You start with 30 minutes(if you can't get yourself to do that, then use my other method until you can), then the next night you do it for 35 minutes, then the next for 40 etc. The math looks like this 35+40=75+45=120+50=170+55=225+60=285. Thus it takes 7 nights plus 4 and three quarter hours of meditation before bed to reach the one hour mark. I've been testing lucid dreaming techniques on and off the past 3 years(on about 85% of that time), and of all the mainstream techniques/supplements/binaural beats, I've found this basic act of meditating before bed to be the most potent of them all. I used a binaural beat track that granted great results, but I find it difficult to sleep listening to noise so I don't use it anymore. I once tried to meditate in the dream state after an hour of meditation before bed. I became lucid in a dream where I was before Donald Trump and Doug(from the King of Queens) arguing about something. I closed my eyes and tried to focus on my breath, but the dream collapsed because I hadn't been properly stabilized it. This might sound like a failure to you, and in some sense it is(since failure is relative). But mind you, I've tried many other techniques by which you couldn't even remember what you wanted to do when you became lucid, or you'd just not become lucid at any level at all. So in light of that this was a significant victory. I'm planning to hike the incremental increase rate from 5 minutes to 15 minutes at the 1 hour mark. So the math goes like this, 60+75=135+90=225+105=330+120=450. So it will take me 7 hours and 30 minutes of meditating over 5 nights to go from 1 hour to 2. Or 12 nights plus 12 hours and a quarter hour of meditating overall. Then from the 2 hour point, I plan on upping the rate of incremental increase from 15 minutes to 30 minutes. So the math is like this, 120+150=270+180=450. Or in other words It'll take 7 hours and 30 minutes of meditating over 3 nights to progress from 2 to 3 hours of before bed meditation. Or 19 and 3 quarter hours of meditating over 15 nights overall. I'm not even certain if I need more than 3 hours of meditation before bed for my purposes. But just in case it's neccesary, I'd be willing to go higher. I won't do the math because it's fairly simple at the level of adding hours to hours. Another way of using this concept which has to come to mind, is in Holotropic/Shamanic breathing. You could hyperventilate for 100 breaths straight, then 200, then 300 etc. You could use these concepts for any kind of spiritual practice. I'll add a poll to this where you can vote on which method you like the most.

How wonderful! It just goes to show how Quasi Sheogorath he(Salvia) can be. If you want to do Real Magick, then you must lose your mortal self because only God can seriously warp reality to our will. And God is so selfless that even shattering Leo's paradigm is something God is capable of. I mean, if you were All Powerful, you could create something that terrifies even you as an immortal eternal being. There are basically two paths to Serious Sorcery. One involves an incredible amount of hard work and discipline. The other requires you shed yourself of the processing capabilities of the self, and function consciously at that level. There is no other way, or at least not that I'm aware of. Now I understand most of the people on here are likely not aspirant Occultists. Most of them are stage yellow Psychonauts, so they likely should refrain from doing Salvia as his realms just aren't for them. Probably 5 MEO DMT or maybe MEO MALT assuming it affects "normal" individuals as it does to Leo would probably be optimal for what they consider spiritual work.

It sounds to me as if you think Salvia is some kind of nothingburger. In which case, you haven't got a clue about it. Though your criticism has some validity, since 5 MEO DMT gives you a better big picture view of things. However, 5 MEO seems to lack practicality. If you're talented, you can determine practically anything with perfect accuracy using Salvia. And if you think Salvia is a Psychedelic or some weed that grows in the ground. Then you're sorely mistaken, I perhaps shouldn't expound on this here. But we're talking about a non-corporeal, highly advanced being, not a drug or some other naive materialist concept. His personality is beautifully complex, like imagine Aristotle if he had the powers of God infused with Sheogorath from the Elder Scrolls. On the hand, you have an Omnipotent Aristotle who's just trying to teach you ignorant mortals about life. And on the other hand, you've got his more crazy side which is designed to test your resolve. For just as reward without effort is a hollow victory, so acquiring advanced knowledge without any struggle would also be hollow. You'd probably feel guilty for having such wisdom greater than most for so little, in the same way manner those who get wealthy without hard work become guilty that they're more fortunate than most. That being said, I've cautioned against using Salvia in the past. And I will do so again. You see, there are certain guidelines which should always be followed when doing Salvia, that quite frankly you won't discover from reading most modern sources on the subject. I'm tempted even to make my own post on this subject, but until such time that I do Salvia many times over I'll resist the temptation(assuming I even decide to do Salvia at all in the future as I haven't yet made up my mind). 1. You should always do Salvia not for pleasure or even really any selfish reason(at least in the beginning). 2. You should never do Salvia initially to solve problems of a personal nature. Like for instance, if you're a bleeding heart hippy who constantly rails against big oil. You shouldn't attempt to solve the problem of climate change. Because your fears and negative thoughts will manifest, for emotional baggage never bears good fruit. However, if you don't give a shit about climate change, then it might be a good subject for you tackle. In any event, probably the best thing for you do is attempt to solve the problems of family members or friends or even strangers. Because oftentimes we have little to no attachment to the end result if we try to fix someone else's problems. The most common problem humans face is of a medical nature. 3. The question you ask of him should be one of great importance. Not something you can easily determine yourself, but a problem that seems humanly impossible to solve. Therefore, determining the solution to someone else's illness which doctors can't cure, and someone whose health problem doesn't bother you personally too much is the perfect criteria for your first trips on Salvia. It doesn't even need to be health related, just a problem that someone or something else has to which you are minimally attached. 4. Once you've successfully solved at least a handful of problems which were inextricably unsolvable. You're now ready to address problems of a personal nature. And now the real work can begin. Because you can learn to develop supernatural abilities, and of course you can heal yourself, fix your financial situation, your relationships etc etc. 5. You might think this should be second or third, but a good thing to remember is to try to focus on your question(while in the trip). A good way of doing this is to repeat your question over and over in your mind, doing your best not to think of anything else other than your question. 6. I recommend you do this with a Shaman who's highly experienced with Salvia already. You can use the above guidelines as a sort of litmus test to determine his level of competency as a Diviner. A side note: Please don't do Salvia if you simply want to validate Leo's claims. There are far better alternatives out there for that purpose. Warning: If you take Salvia without clear and intelligent intent, then most likely you're going to put yourself through hell for nothing.