blessedlion1993

Wise words, i will meditate on this. @Eph75When you say development is created through challenge, in your experience is not possible to develop through enjoyment or solely meditation? Is challenge neccesary for developing?

got any links to these discussions?

All you have to do is compare this video from 8 years ago; essentially the idea is the same as the most recent "Valuable things develop over time" but explained so differently

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_U1zhkGbikt45SY_SWlQXA Smash that subscribe button por favor!

I'm a little "Biased" https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_U1zhkGbikt45SY_SWlQXA

I was very excited about finally diving into Ken Wilber after devouring Ralstons' books. But i read this article online from Mark Manson about Ken Wilber and it turned me off a bit. If Wilber was such a genius on this stuff why wouldn't he be able to successfully run this program and have such a poor emotional response to his critics? @Leo Gura any thoughts? https://markmanson.net/ken-wilber

Everytime I try to do this it goes well for about a week but then i get really depressed, lonely and anxious and i'm even worse when i go back to socializing. Is it just like a break-through period i need to push through? FYI; I spend about 4-6 hours everyday sitting in my chair and staring at the ocean doing this meditation

@Leo Gura @Iksander @hamedsf This was what i wanted to , and didn't want to hear. It is hard to justify pushing through these "purification" levels because my ego is just saying "what are you doing dude? of course sitting in a chair for 4-6 hours/day alone is going to get you sad and tense, you are bored, go socialize, go run, etc" but i know too well that this is part of the process. At times I can push through and if i do i reach a profound level of peace. Knowing this is where most drop out of meditation is actually more motivating to continue, thanks guys. @Spiritual Seeker You are not alone! All we can do is continue and have faith.

Thank you for the thought out responses everyone, I can admit I hold the "image" i have of someone quite high as to how seriously I take their work. If there is a great spiritual teacher who ended up abusing his followers or something, I find that i can't read their material with an open mind. With Wilber it doesn't seem like anything other than massive critque from others, I will begin reading his books as I was very excited to get started on them.