Jannes

Look I am really trying hard to understand trans people. And I am not perfect of course. I try to be as open minded as possible but when you grow up in a society that has traditional values you can’t help but take most of that mindset with you. So sorry if I sound like an ape to you because I still am. And I am sorry to hear that it’s hard for you in society. Do you live in a stage green place ? If not you may have a better time there.. I would still love to hear your opinion on that matter.

My friend was always a bit soft. Meaning he was always pretty agreeable non confrontational and pretty emotional. He said that the idea of becoming more “girly“ grew in him for many years but he was to afraid to let act it out until a year ego. (So with recently I mean a year ago which isn’t really that recent I know) I think he found himself though. He says he likes being a straight dude but likes to wear dresses and makes his nails. Maybe there is a lot of aggression in his shadow, maybe not idk.

I put it to my current contemplative ideas ?

I only recently heard about these short dmt trips as well and asked myself the same question. You could make a daily god-realization routine out of it. ?

hmm ? Isn’t focusing on one thing over the other selfish ? From what you said earlier I got the sense that you mean that ultimately there are no differences. For example a stone worths just as much as a human (when you are geologist for example) or AI as much as a biological creature. And so I wasn’t sure how far you would take that believe in the relative roam and so by giving some challenging examples I wanted your opinion. Hmm maybe ?

A brain (material) might produce conscious states (immaterial) if you follow the theory that consciousness is a product of the material world. If that’s not the case and the material world and the immaterial world don’t merge its still possible that there are "AI conscious states“. Just like the brain itself isn’t conscious but we can still attribute certain conscious states to it. So we could attribute certain conscious states to AI even though it might not be the physical AI that produces it. ?

What I took from it is that you can’t predict if something is conscious/has feelings … from its behavior. The AI will be able to act just like a human but that doesn’t mean that it understands what it does or has any understanding at all.

@Asayake thanks for the post I really enjoyed reading it. It sounds like you had some really authentic positive experience with weed and it also a sounds like you don’t defend weed because of your personal bias but because you really believe in its potential. Concentration and work ethic are just very fragile recourses in my character and weed kills both of them. So the dangers definetly outweigh the cons for me. I will work on other psychedelics first. But as you suggested when I am at a point in my life where I found my passion, have a strong drive in life and secured my survival I might take it again.

I know a lot of anecdotes of people who lost their discipline and drive in live from smoking weed everyday. All of them are super nice and harmless people with compassion but also with no work ethic. It’s probably different for everybody but for me I just can’t think straight when I am high and even the next day. It’s also a crutch for me because it’s just something to do. I haven’t developed my passion for life yet and I limit every other source that could possibly lead to an addiction (social media, video games, junk food, …) so when I don’t have anything to do weed becomes very appealing. It’s not as heavy as other psychedelics but it still puts you in a nice place. But I see how this could turn into an addiction for me so I will stop. My first thought was also that THC is what makes weed unhealthy. But it’s the CBD that makes you relaxed -> unproductive? Are there studies that look at what happens to regular CBD user ?

It’s not clear to me why “having“ a state of consciousness is actually being a state of consciousness. So you are saying that basically everything is relative and absolutely speaking there is nothing more important than the other. To prefer something over the over you are selfish and don’t look at it absolutely. I can agree with that but on a relative level there are still important ethical questions like should AI get rights because we all operate on the relative level. If you say that you don’t care because in the absolute everything is okay then would it be okay to murder a bunch of innocent people because in the absolute their suffering is as beautiful as their joy ? Why teach, why do anything when it’s just all the same? I understand that you might be able to get a metaphysical understanding of the world which makes you ultimately indifferent and peaceful to everything that is going on while on the same time operating on the relative level. My question about AI is meant on a relative level. Is there good reason for us to believe on a relative level that AI has/is a state of consciousness that is precious ? You only have limited capacity to love. When you put love into rocks, AI, … you might not have any love left for people. I think loving something means treating something “good“. ?

It’s healthier for your lungs and you absorb double the amount. It’s just the smarter choice.

Yes. Yeah I think I get it. But we do have to make decisions right?! So for that I have to think about consciousness. I treat a rock different from a human for example. Both are consciousness for me but I put more worth into the human. I say the human has feelings while the rock doesn’t. That’s not in my direct experience but you would probably agree that you should treat a human better then a rock ? I have to rephrase my question then. A rock, human, AI are all consciousness. But does AI possibly have a conscious state that worths as much as the conscious state of a human or an animal who have feelings?

Do the studies show if the potential positive or negative effects comes from CBS or THC ?

Because consciousness is not an object in your consciousness it is the source itself. Everything you say (even about consciousness) is an object in consciousness. Don’t know how to explain it better.

I got a rock in my hand so of course it exists. I don’t know you though so maybe you don’t exist and therefore aren’t conscious.

-there is no difference between different types of matter. (brain matter is roughly the same as brain matter for example) -there is no reason why you have to be conscious of process/movement (like atoms running through my brain) because it’s all just cause and effect. -> but it’s possible that certain matter like organic matter combined with certain movement like the intelligent movement of atoms in the brain create a new quality like consciousness. Like in chemistry where when you combine different matter with heat for example you can create a completely new quality a new element. But maybe you can’t draw the line from unconscious to conscious so a quality like consciousness either always exists or doesn’t. It does but if the conscious world and the “unconscious material world“ don’t merge you can’t say anything about consciousness because saying something about consciousness would be stepping outside it which you can’t. So the question if AI is conscious would be open. Will take some dmt or 5meo in my semester break ?

It’s just a dumb rock that I am conscious of. How can the rock be conscious? it doesn’t have a brain or life.

Thanks!

But how long does it last? How much mg do you vape when you keep your dose low ?

Magic truffles work fine for me if I am in a good mood and with people who I can trust. I do 0.5-1g of dried Atlantis truffles. For me it reduces social anxiety and makes me more open for new experiences. But it also makes me a bit stupid sometimes. Like a child that isn’t calculating everything but it’s manageable.

A Dmt pen seems to be pretty expensive. How long would 500mg of dmt-liquid last ?

Sharing authenticity, growth, the gym, meditating, a healthy AND tasty meal, getting rid of a source of suffering, forgiving, forgiving myself for making myself suffer, daydreaming on a creative idea, making other people happy.

Yeah everything else I found was even more expensive.

I think you hold the belief that the world needs to be saved by you because it gives you a sense of self importance. It feels great to be a superhero but that’s just your ego talking. Most people arent ready to awaken and wouldn’t benefit from high level teachings because they are where they are… But that’s just my take on it I might be wrong. It all just sounds like modern preaching and gives me cult vibes.

Interesting points! It sounds like something needs an ego/devil so a will to dominate in order to be conscious. Idk about that. Why couldn’t a servant be conscious? Hypothetically we find out that AI is conscious. What does AI like or doesn’t like ? Does it suffer when it isn’t charged, does it feel pain? I imagine a supercharged rationalist as an AI who is suffering hardcore from overthinking ?. Yeah I think we will come to new perspectives in the future when AI is more common.