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Do you think this makes you holier than thou? That you have chemistry but are not thinking about sex? Not sure why you had this thought process that its Awesome haha. Fix your social programming. Its kinda insulting and disrespectful to be hanging out with a girl you have strong chemistry with and not be thinking about sex.

The speakers included Owen Cook, Marczell Klein, Sid Samtaney, Zac and Damon Day 1 Limiting beliefs come down to you not believing you can Everything you do should come from what you want Biggest limiting belief is that it takes a long time If you change your mindset you change your life quickly Anyone who has success in anything isn’t doing from a difficult paradigm Beliefs and Desires conflict and create inner conflict Stop thinking it’s hard When you look a tour life that’s what you optimized for If you wanna improve your life optimize for want you want Guy with delusional confidence wins Invisible mental barrier, limiting beliefs create an internal war inside Best skill is to liberate yourself from limiting beliefs Charisma, Internal self-belief and going after it Best skill - skill to control my own thoughts and feelings Confidence We living in a confidence hierarchy. Whoever has the most confidence is the alpha Marczell went out and approached lots of girls and got addicted to feeling confident His intention wasn’t to get with a girl it was to become more confident At 15 he could approach and girl in any situation If your goal is sex and you don’t get it. Confidence goes down (When going out its best to not make the goal sex make it something else) When you’re confident your brain just picks up the skill with no limitation His goal was to get over his fear of rejection Simplify things to understand them and so you can actually use the information You can be hypnotized to be confident (Mentalism) You want to program your mind so that there’s no conflict within. You are fully aligned with your goal Change doesn’t mean time ti just means change Owen, Marczell & Sud Owen is extremely intense. The most intense person I’ve ever met in my life. He has fire and aggression in him Being proactive not reactive Be at the cause not the effect Owen looks rich. The jewelry glistens. The glasses the shirt look high quality If you want permanent change you must change at the identity level and you can’t remember what it was like Flow state connect conscious and subconscious A man with strength of mind is very attractive Few celebrities have confidence. They’re also scared to approach women You gotta be swinging you gotta be taking risks Very few people aware in the mindset of taking action past their comfort zone The passive meek attitude accumulates Being a good hunter means you’re willing to take risks Be willing to fail See lanes, see opportunity Abundance is required internally to be successful Jealously comes from you believing you ant get what someone else has Everything you do when you have money is for you to have you money There’s a promotion oriented brain and a prevention oriented brain Rain the stakes Run into the burning building (metaphorically) Once I commit to doing it I will figure out the solution You have to win you have no choice Everything intentional the way he moves his hands, dresses etc Easiest way to change your life is through hypnosis Create a second personality Sid Samtaney - Extreme intensity even more so than Owen sometimes like woah Breaking tension hurts your perceived status The ability to hold tension is an indicator light Breaking tension shows sometimes is messed up with you and a lack of self-belief Boldness Need to know you can take up space and nothing happens and you get proof not promises Confidence is a reflection of you self-belief The self belief has to be pure. Your foot can’t be on the gas and the break at the same time You’re in a freakish amount of momentum Everything and the kitchen sink must be throw at it Flow state makes work more fun and effective Jobs are bullshit and they exhaust you When you are at the job you are at the mercy of a boss Getting rich Absolute value for time Time + focus + momentum It’s a war for time, focus and momentum Everything is out there to deplete you. You gotta fight and guard your time When people gossip tune out Once you’re rich its easy to get richer since you’re in the right circles Spiritual ascension You’re at the cause not the affect Everything is easier Vibrations are contagious Need to find something you can start getting money in and do it after your job Permanent work is idiotic Build the principle Live off what it pays you Get 100% of your time back If you have a job you will rot away in a nursing home You know you have a good relationship because its not hard A vibe of valuing your time A vibe of being at the cause not the effect The key is confidence and you need nothing from anybody else People pleasing is taking If you’re giving there and inconcious belief you will receive Crack in the Dam Time efficient Potent Energy Virility Get back time, focus and momentum Being an emotionally regulated source of grounding energy Problems Gatekeepers, to much money to start Miasma Container events Build a big network Charisma Social Skills Personal Branding The skills you get from going out meeting girls helps you get millions Day 2 Higher Purpose Day to Day Motivations Lower Purpose (Pain) What is the cost of not doing this stuff? You don’t need motivation, motivation is fleeting This is all psychological Motivation is an entry level paradigm You need to have clarity on your vision Compile your notes into action steps Buy into your own vision We value what we invest into Fear is an entry level paradigm 0 - 1 is the hardest step. The first step is the hardest step Need to be ruthlessly consistent “I’d rather die than have a job” I am going to be this and the alternatives death Speaking loud is an exertion of your nervous system similar to a boxer knocking someone out a sprinter sprinting Your nervous system should fire Acceptance of pressure Handle adrenaline You’re going into the abyss If you’re not continually going into the unknown. You’re going too slow Train the mind and the body to handle adrenaline Are you gonna die doing this? Act first then course correct later Mind can loop on downsides when afraid Fear is really excitement If you want freedom you will have to take it It’s the bold people who make the real/impact The ultimate high comes from not dying after going outside the comfort zone Your mindset is just a strategy to get things in life Mindset Beliefs Emotions Patterns Your beliefs are just a strategy to either not die or get what you want What minute gets me to be rich and have an amazing dating life Change happens now Confidence is a belief that you will get what you want You know that you’re changed because you’re all in You actions say where you are Weight loss Eat carbs 30 -60 mins after 3x a week lifting 4 days not working out no carbs What do I want? What are you doing wrong that’s not getting you the result? You’re always in a trance. Find out what trance you’re in When you try it implies you can’t do it Have a goal and figure it out You have to have the obsession acquire servant syndrome What do they want? What are they scared of? Focusing on rejection is low caliber thinking People who take extreme ownership of their situation get ahead Subversive Elites - Psychopaths Masses - On autopilot, numb Regular people - connected to God Flywheel - when it speeds up it lives off the power of its own momentum If you don’t have access to a flow state you’re a puppet EVERYTHING FROM A YOUNG AGE IS DESIGNED TO GET YOU TO LISTEN TO AUTHORITY Conscious non-resistance Find something so profound to you it’d make you cry Learn the ancillary skills The skills that bring your vision to life Public speaking Leadership Marketing Social Skills Study click-bait and thumbnails You gotta learn how to have kids so you gotta learn dating The worst thing that can happen to you is staying the same and getting what you want Pick Up A process of personal alchemy and dedication The best gift that women give to men is rejection As a man you have to have a penetrative energy MASTER HIERARCHY Allows ugly, short meant to have the sex life of a god To the girls be more Hilarious Comfortable with yourself In states Leader Having it down to where its like getting a sandwich out the fridge Be out of your head. Alpha makes are out of their head When you have the transformation life gets so fun. His life is just so fun everywhere he goes Marczell’s vibe is an I don’t give a fuck vibe You want be very spiritual and also be like a psychopathic narcissist Day 3 It’s always better to be in the moment when approaching a girl The moment you want to retreat like a turtle in its shell go and do the action Anytime you’re under pressure relax Anytime you’re in your control muscle over release something will be off Be in your release muscle Foot on the gas not the brakes THE GIRLS WANT A GUY WHO’S NOT IN THE BOX OF SOCIETAL CONDITIONING Over time of getting in a flow state often your baseline state increases Push yourself but hot to the point where you’re incongruent Ramp up your state Don’t use crutches Slow is smooth and smooth is fast Practice moving and speaking like molasses People move towards value, strength and status ALWAYS CONTROL THE FRAME In ever mammalian species the top 1% of males mate with 80% of the women Get it in your head that for the rest of your lie you will be aware of how you’re coming across Avoid being meek Speak life a juicy buffalo wing Be positive dominant You need to have a core of strength Fully own yours even if you are stifled The leader is strong. Weak person cannot be trusted by particularly women You’re gonna have people try to shame you and put you back in your box when you are transforming Everyone has to face their demons it may not be comfortable What is your version of hiding? Me- Being quiet, smiling sometimes Don’t put on a character. No mask The mask comes on when we are uncomfortable being ourself There’s has to be something in you that want to conquer that wants to win A part of you that is not tame , not giving a fuck Trying for rapport tonality brings out aggression in others Speak in breaking rapport Voice should inflate downward Stop looking at good looking men as your role model Look at short unattractive men who get a lot of girls as role models Vitality Fearless Hilarious Owen’s last girlfriend at 45 was 20 years old Be honest that a good looking 6’5” guy and a short guy are gonna have to go about dating very differently Go on a rampage Clarity- You need to explain business model very clearly and explain cash flow Explain the psychology behind the whole ting You need to be able to communicate with full self-belief What’s your motivation? Why are you in this? Time cost. Energy cost. Everything in life has a price Need a sense of urgency that it has to happen now Unless you light a fire under your ass it aint gonna happen We have extreme normalcy bias Owen and Sid constantly feel like they’re moving too slow You have to get unstuck. Unfuck yourself You are always in your own way self-sabotaging All change happens when you step out of your current identity If you’re not caught in you will stay stuck You must have self-belief Create a very unique lifestyle. You can do so an an entrepreneur Your presence should say I am a guy that fucks. I’m a guy that gets p*ssy You need to get horny for the girl. Extremely important Look at her and figure out something that will get you horny about her Gotta believe you’re game is good All stress is self-induced Status is in your mind Believe you are higher status than others Need to have a healthy level of narcissism and believe you are better than others to get what you want If you focus on the future what you wanna become you can become that Protect your focus like your life depends on it RAS should focus on the good Learn from your failures but only replay the wins in your head Let go of the story you tell yourself about your life (Owen eating rice crispy treats) Approach anxiety comes from you being one person in your life and another when you approach the girls Owen going out 4 -5 hours a day everyday Don’t be a coward Who you are in between sets and when you aren’t approaching is really important. Can’t be putting on a character when you approach Make no mistake tis is a course that teaches ugly short men who to get beautiful women Bathe in the tension Owen and Sid use aggressive body language that physically riles them up and adds to their intensit Be able to generate different facial expressions and emotions at will Make love to every word you say

The guys I've know to get laid the most are simply cool guys who are fun, charming, bold, high sex drive and barely work. They actuallyoperatein a way that's against what society pushes.

I think too many spiritual people try to deny the physical world that they live in and and it comes out in unconcious ways like this. There is this harmful idea in the spiritual community that you transcend your sexual desires once you become enlightened. Why can't you be enlightened and also wanna fuck a lotta women at the same time. I'm not enlightened so I wouldn't know but this denying of sex leads to stuff like this

Bro this girl still has feelings over this guy it seems. She's not some innocent fairy in this situation. Girls choose these men. I dare you to ask her was there anything she liked about the abuse. And push for an answer. Many women who have been in domestic violence relationships report having the best sex of their lives in domestic violence relationships. There is a high chance she will get bored of you for not abusing her. If you are emotionally healthy go be with a girl who is also emotionally healthy not some girl who likes domestic violence. You think her ex wis a POS but you'll soon find out she was exactly where she wanted to be

I have a similar experience of being sexually shamed by my mother at a young age just not to the extreme that you've been. You may be unaware of just how much trauma you are holding. I see that you are really good at intellectualizing your problems and you are aware of what they are but that doesn't actually get rid of them. To release this trauma try something called Somatic Experiencing. It's one of the most effective ways to release trauma and results come quickly. You wrote a lot can you just be clear in one sentence what your moral issues are? However if you believe that caring about personality before looks or not viewing women sexually somehow makes you moral it absolutely does not. It just means you are disconnected from your sexuality.

Interesting. Thought they were one and the same. Spiritual gurus have made it seem like awakening makes you moral and just and care about all beings.

I’ve known about game for many years and I’ve dabbled in it on and off and had a few experiences but always quit because I was too weak to take the pain I’ve done lots of trauma release which has been helpful for me an I’m getting back into the game now. However, I have wasted my entire 20’s being sexually inexperienced, with few friends and never having had a girlfriend. I know I have to use this to fuel me to go harder.I’m not trying to be a victim here. This was my own doing by my own laziness and my choices to be weak and not approach. However, if any of you guys have been in this position, how did you get over this feeling of being behind in your 30s? I know logically I have to accept it. I never got to experience that high school or earlier twenties puppy love. I’m expected at my age to have had experiences. Does that feeling of being behind ever go away? Did you make up for it? How did you navigate the expectation of being experienced at your age?

This probably means Joe won't be bashing him on the war in Iran anymore

So true. The Republican party was so anti-war a few years ago. Now all of a sudden they're so pro Iran war

If you asked me a few years ago I really believed that nuclear weapons were for “deterrence”. But now I must say I can actually see the possibility of Israel or the US using them on Iran. The war with Iran has put the petrodollar at risk. It’s making America look weak and Iran looks a lot more powerful that we thought it was. Iran is making more money from oil than has before Iran is bypassing sanctions and trading with nations and building relations with nations that it hadn’t before due to Iran actively taking control of the strait of hormuz has put it in a much more powerful position Iran’s control and Strait of Hormuz policies are in direct conflict with the petrodollar system While America looks weak the nuclear option can very quickly even the playing field. I believe the US army looks somewhat incompetent and weak by being unable to open up the strait. This whole situation threatens to destroy the petrodollar system. I can’t imagine Trump’s administration allowing the enemy of the US government, Iran to take down petrodollar system. They severely underestimated Iran and there is a chance of a nuclear weapon being used to maintain US dominance and status quo in the world. Israel could also be the one to use nukes if they feel they’re losing the war too much

The strait of Hormuz is only open to those who have set up some deal with Iran where they pay in Chinese Yuan. Countries are also buying Iranian oil in Chinese Yuan. And now they're buying Russian Oil as well in Russian Rubbles and Chinese Yuan. Then middle eastern countries that have the petrodollar agreement with the US haven't been selling much of their since the strait is blocked I believe a few have stopped entirely. I'm not an expert but the Chinese Yuan. US Dollars are still important of course but they're just not as important as they were before the war. The importance of the US Dollar is being chipped away slowly. I'm saying this is the beginning of a decline. The dollar is still powerful, however and will be for years to come.

Strategically it can maintain the petrodollar which this war seems like it's on track to end

Leo made a blog post about pick up guys not respecting the sovereignty of women. I wanted to ask Leo as well as the forum members what it means to respect the sovereignty of women when doing pick up. To me it means not harassing them physically or sexually. Respecting their rejection and walking away. Not touching them in an unwanted way. No use of violence, the threat of violence, coercion, intimidation or blackmail or any other method to get the girl to do something that she may not want to do. Another forum member made a post about doing pick up in a conscious way and this is what I'm getting at here. Because according to Leo all socializing is corrupt because we are survival machines but the reality is that most of us here want women and friends and a family and socializing is or will be a big part of our lives. So lets talk about it. What do you think it means to respect a woman's sovereignty?

There was another study somewhere where it said covertly the number 1 trait that people look for in a partner is them being good at sex

What do you consider to be hardcore game?

Ok I get it. Faking who you are and what you want to get sex. I do disagree that if you want sex you have to tell her. You are underestimating women's social intelligence. They are not so stupid that everything has to be said explicitly. You don't have to tell her you want sex. You might not even know 100% if you want sex. Part of the excitement can be not knowing what's going to happen or going with the flow. But I get it everybody has different opinions on what they consider ethical.

Be more specific please. I don't know what you mean by what you really are, intentions and agenda are hidden to exploit her I think you are saying you need to know upfront what you want and tell her. Which is kinda too logical in my opinion. Where's the mystery? But expand on this so I fully understand give an example. Also remember the core idea of my questioning is about ensuring we respect women's sovereignty.

Interesting. I still I don't see how this is taking away her sovereignty but I can see of course lying to get you want can be considered unethical. When it comes to saying you value a woman for her personality even if you don't. Truthfully almost all men who are not psychopaths and narcissistics are gonna care about a woman's personality on some level. Anyway how would reckon that with the idea of playing the game and that noone is above the game. So even if you just want to fuck it would be generally be bad social skills to just say that explicitly. Of course there is a way to make it sexy but the mystery is preferred. You're also not obligated to know if you want a relationship or just sex with the girl before you have sex. And many women want casual sex too. They want to chase and by being upfront about sex you're forcing yourself to make a decision and you don't even know if you want this girl or not. It also can rob her of the ability to chase and qualify herself to you.

Let's be more specific. What exactly do you mean by cheating and manipulating to get sex? Give an example

I hear this but I feel differently. Pick up is about getting a woman attracted and wanting to sleep with you. You learn how to handle their state, increase her state, her compliance and buying temperature to want to go off with you. There is also the reality that the woman often isn't looking for a guy and may not even have an agenda towards that. She has so much abundance and already has so many guys that want her and guys who continually persuing her that she just expects to go with the flow of some guy she likes. This is influence and persuasion but would you really call pumping a woman's state to make her want to go off with you not respecting her sovereignty as a human being?

I've heard some say if you don't date trans people you're transphobic but is that even the main consensus among the trans community or the opinion of just a few trans people? Are we overblowing this because a few trans people are saying this online and its easy to make them all punching bag? It's not like them saying that is gonna change what people are attracted to

@Leo Gura What got you so into Aba and Preach's content?