Zen LaCroix

This is where you confuse me with your ideas because you say there's only good and then you go on talking about people being being corrupted and overly materialistic and too focused on money, status, sex survival and just plain greed. How can this be true according to your world view of everything being good.

You take what you need to help yourself and discard what you don't need

Honestly ethics are personal I would've never considered this unethical. Celebrities do this all the time. You think they personally DM all the girls they talk to? Nope It's up to you

"Create a second personality" - Marczell Klein has a 10k MK Ultra style course where he claims to truamatize you and install an new personality into you. "You need to be able to communicate with full self-belief" - This is self explanatory. You need to fully believe in yourself and it should be clear in your communication. You should be speaking with full conviction and not an ounce of doubt "Unless you light a fire under your ass it ain’t gonna happen" - You will make excuses for why you can't go for your dreams. You will just end up procrastinating forever. And even if you do start you will dabble. You gotta go extremely fast. No rushed but take so much action to get from 0 to 1. Fire under your ass is a metaphor. If you don't go hard you just will not accomplish your dreams.

"Need a sense of urgency that it has to happen now" - They basically said you will just waste time and always procrastinate your dreams. And even if you go after it you will just dabble and move too slow to make real change. You need a psychotic levels of momentum to change your situation when you're starting from 0. We have massive amounts of normalcy bias that will keep us stuck and not pursuing our dreams as if we really mean to make it happen "All change happens when you step out of your current identity" - The person you are now is what created the life you have. You need to take the right actions towards getting what you want and that will not be something you identify with. Ex. approaching lots of women can be a step out someones identity. Taking action towards your business goals etc. "Make love to every word you say" - Sid was teaching us how to sound confident, sexy and authoritative. This was just a metaphor. He wanted us to talk as if each word is a juicy buffalo wing. A lot of the event was about speaking loud and clear. "Easiest way to change your life is through hypnosis" - Marczell Klein one of the speakers who also has a youtube channel by the same name is a hypnotist and pushes that the easiest way to change your life is to hypnotize yourself into being confident. Instead of taking years to build confidence hypnotism can make you confident and you now have the self-belief and sense of deservedness to get what you want in life.

The comments here are way too focused on Owen. Get the information and run with it. No need to love his entire lifestyle or worldview if you don't want to. I certainly don't and I don't feel the need to. He teaching how to have a great dating life and do amazing in business these are stage Orange things. Some of you guys need to stop finger wagging about stage orange as if you are holier than thou.

He doesn't encourage people to be psychopaths. As far we know there's certain brain wiring and brain chemistry involved in that as well. He encourages people to embody some of the traits because he sees what type of guys get laid the most. He talks much more about spirituality in his talks. It's just not something I care too much about. At these events where most of what is said will never go on youtube you kinda get what you want. If you're really spiritual most of what you get might be the spiritual stuff. If you're focused more on girls or business that you get a lot of info on those. Those are the three things he discusses most dating, business and spirituality. People mostly focus on and ask questions based on what their RAS is tuned into.

No he was very clear on what he said Last year he was even more explicit and went on a rant on why you need to be a likeca psychopath narcissist He's talking about getting massive success in dating. He doesn't put this stuff online Look up the traits of a psychopath narcissist and its obvious why he says this The reason he mentions the spirituality is because he doesn't want you to be fully corrupted and evil with that mindset

You should make separate post in the forum for this. Others might not see it here

Yep its gonna be just like this 🤣 Leo might even find his wife from one of these retreats

What is this?

I think your audience doesn't understand this. They just take the idea that pursuing sex is inherently bad

Good luck with that. It might take some time for people to get comfortable We've been watching you on youtube for years. You're at the cutting edge of your field not another random youtube prankster or fitness influencer either People are flying out and paying a good chunk of money and giving up their time to do this work but also to see you. They may want God-Realization but they're also coming for you. It's just the truth This is not some Vipassana retreat where Vipassana is the brand. You are the brand

I can already envision on the retreat: - People being geeked out and mentally worshipping Leo - Women coming onto Leo - People sneaking away and having sex A lotta people are gonna be seeing you for the first time in real life and they will be mesmerized. I wonder how you will deal with that.

So if you have no experience will we experience God or be releasing trauma

Some of you guys moralize too much The way you do pick up is a reflection of you. Stop trying to act as if pursuing sex is immoral. The girls are gonna be having sex they just don't have to hunt for it. You have to pursue women

You can learn game in Australia too especially Melbourne from what I've heard

You're welcome They addressed that at the free tour. You should go to one. It's very different from watching a youtube video. they say things that will not be put on youtube Even if you don't buy anything just listening to the talk is very insightful

Going to the free tour vs watching a short video online are two different experiences On the first day I was inspired my mind opened up to the possibilites of life By the last day i felt like i was at rock bottom. I saw the gap between me and them and the life I'd been living. It's made so clear. You see people who were there last year as well and they haven't changed you can see it in their eyes. I havent' changed either. and I'm just like is there something else that's missing. some of these guys even paid for bootcamps In this industry there is a bias towards guys who just do it. You gotta figure out the emotional regulation stuff on your own since they dont' teach it. I asked two guys who went on the bootcamp how much they approached one guy did 10 and another guy did 2 and just left

Marczell was selling a 10k hypnotism event where he does some MK Ultra style reprograming in a 2 day 24 hour event. The speech he gave was good. You learn a lot just watching them communicate and their vibe and way of selling. He was also hypnotizing people in the crowd. I went home that day falling asleep and for some reason I felt like I was him. That was for the first and second day of the free tour. I was like wow maybe it does work. I don' t know. I didn't pay for the event Marczell is even more stage orange than Owen. Owen loves spirituality he was talking about it. Marczell was all about women, cars, celebrities, money, traveling, rich people. I'm stage orange too though so it resonated with me

Melatonin gave me nightmares so I had to stop taking it

It really is a reminder that no matter what women say they all want a guy who has lots of women. We know this already. She would constantly bash promiscuous men. Women too but especially men and who did she end up with a promiscuous man. She described him as "a player in dubai". Also some can pretend to be all high society and untouchable they're not. It's a facade She was happily a side chick. So don't go thinking this girl is too classy or too beautiful she won't do that. She will for the right guy.

He's made it clear he has a bias towards free speech. That's what cares about the most. The weird thing is he seems to think people should be neutral towards Charlie Kirk despite all the hateful things he said because he supports free speech and having a "debate". I remember in one of his free tour videos that came out recently he was suprised that Nelson Mandela was a leftist. He seemed to be actually a bit confused by that

Does the word "far" imply militarized