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@Inliytened1 There is nothing to be itself and the movie that is HERE and NOW is just free falling forever. But my original point where you disagreed was that selflessness is overrated, because it is imposible as long as there is sense of self, or sense of doership. If you want to be selfless it doesn't happen by changing from helping, because you want some money to wanting to help, because you want to be good person. I said it is overrated, because people really think that it is possible to act selflessly if you are good enough. You can only be selfless when you understand that there is no self.

@Inliytened1 Now you are sidetracking the question from what we were talking first. As I said we are not talking about this "automatical" process which is same which made this moment and the body, but we are talking about how ego can't ever be selfless and that is not possible unless ego "dies" and it is shown that everything is automatical. Show me one action that you could as ego do that would be selfless and I can point in every example you give the selfishness in it and that proves that you can't be truly selfless without "operating" from this "automatical" process. When we go to this "automatical" process we can't no longer use "I", because there is no one doing anything.

@Inliytened1 When everything is "automatical" - and, because there is no one controlling anything - that can be the only time when there is true selflessness. If we don't talk about this automatical level then the act can't ever be selfless. What is reason to do anything and what drives your actions? That is want, want to do something. Without that you wouldn't do anything. And that want always serves you so it is imposible to be selfless while not being "automatical". Tell me one act that would be selfless without the process being "automatical".

@Inliytened1 Understand that even helping others is ultimately meant to give you happiness and if you wouldn't want to do that then you wouldn't do it. So only reason why people help "others" is, because they get something from it and it does not matter if it is money, respect, happiness or relief from not seeing suffering, because these all are just different motivators to help. So called true selflessness is not possible, because you always do that which you want. Do you want to go to red or blue room? Whatever you choose is that which you wanted and even if you tried to destroy the theory and choose that which you don't want then still that choosing was based on that you wanted to destroy the theory and there was that wanting.

@Someone here As I told you yesterday your physical body is external for you aswell, because that is aswell the movie as "surroundings". What is difference between "surroundings" and body/mind? Both are happening in this moment and are automatical so why would you make distiction between these 2? Why would you separate these 2 what would be argument behind it?

@Mason Riggle Yes I agree completely, because in the most absolute sense everything is so "other" that there is no room for the opposite of other and therefore everyhing is movie which is just that which is happening right NOW. Finally someone gets it : ) When everything in present moment is treated as "other" then there is no room for "I". Remember though that this was not point of this thread, but I am always open to talk about this concept, because people seem to get confuced about it too much.

@Tim R Also add on to my previous big answer I can say the whole thing shorter. Selflessness just means to love helping "others" - even if they are real or not - and getting happiness along the way doesn't suppress the "good" you did. Selflessness is just overrated thing in relative sense, because it cannot be attained in its core definition. The reason why it is so popular is, because collaboration helps groups and we want to glorify those who keep the system working. PS. note the previous answer if you didn't yet : )

@Tim R I copy paste my answer for forza21 from our PM's, because this question seems like so much the same. When you say that you care about something or someone it means that you don't want to see any damage happening to it, because that is against your own morals and thoughts of how life should be. You want your own vision to survive and that's why you care about it and feel sad when it is going great and bad when not. If you wouldn't know or see any bad, you would be at peace knowing that no one is suffering. By that I mean you only care about that which you perceive, not the thing "behind" that thing. You shouldn't care about the "experience" that perceiving has or not, but directly that which you see, because that is the picture you want to shape to picture of no one suffering. You can think this like you being in lucid dream - which basically is dream you are conscious of being in knowing it is dream - and seeing dream characters suffering. Would you be okay seeing this? If yes then that is fine and it is not that you lack love or action. If that is not okay for you then it is okay as well, but then change that which you see and that is called as "helping". In life you want to be in peace with things around you and you can do that by 2 ways or what happens usually is some combination of them. Either you accept that which you see or then shape that to something you could accept. That is also point of life to be happy which means to accept present moment as it is. Your power is not strong enough to freeze state to something you could accept and that's why I suggest you to work your acceptance levels also known as love levels. To love is to accept <3

@AndylizedAAY It happens when you switch from wanting to do things to needing to do something or from loving to be to survival. That is outcome of not loving the process and only seeing beautifulness in the goal and not seeing the flowers around you while in the path. Basic mindfulness is the answer for this question. I would suggest you to pay attention as many times as possible to present moment and the calmness in it during the day until you are "present" 24/7. Some tips for that: Have planned time to think about things and "save" all thoughts to this time and live everything outside of this time as free from thoughts as possible. Have some kind of beautiful "mindfulness" hair loop in your wrist that reminds you to be present and you should alternate hands, because at some point you will get so used to pressure of it so you forget its existence. When travelling or just moving from some location to another pay attention to all different details and be truly interested about what is around you and how beautiful everything is. Use all "sensations" and understand that there is happening so much in present moment that you have all the time something new to pay attention to. See that everything is changing all the time and this is concept of impermanence. Don't see things as entry to the real fun part of the day, but see everything as the fun part itself. When you have lot of things you "need" to do then only focus on the thing you are doing right NOW and understand that actually if you would only pay attention to this thing then everything would just be piece of cake for you.

@WokeBloke Perfection, happiness, acceptance and peacefulness are all synonyms to same thing. They mean state which you don't judge present moment and outcome of that is that everything is perfect, because nothing is wrong. Definition of perfect is just lack of incompleteness. By accepting present moment as it is you will be happy and that leads to feeling of peacefulness, because there is nothing that needs to be done.

@AndylizedAAY You should sit down and contemplate that which you should contemplate and what you want to do next in life. Don't think about what you need to do, but rather what would be the extremely interesting to do and by following this approach you wouldn't even need "motivation" to do the thing, because you wanted to do it anyways. The thing in life is that you don't need ultimate system to solve all your problems, but you should just start doing something which you have NOW drive towards and change plan while in path and not before it or otherwise you never even start the path. You need passion to that which you are doing and only that way "narrowing" focus happens automatically, because when you have incredibly high passion towards something you don't have time to do anything excess. Best passion comes always from desire for self-expression and wanting to help other people. Find way to express yourself and that doesn't even need to be music, painting, writing, dancing etc., but it can be anything you think you are good at. If you don't feel like being superhero on something then find that thing you like, and do it as long as you feel being the superhero.

@WokeBloke What if the whole experience of response being writed was uncreated/unborn? You can't run away this simple logic. What if the whole experience of "surroundings" and body movements are one big movie which was not created and the movie has existed forever and will in future aswell. Who said that experience must be created? That is an assumption that this what is happening right when these words are read must be created. Who or what logic says this?

@WokeBloke Then explain me why this same logic couldn't work straight with the movie/present moment/everything there is without the middleman existence/you? Why couldn't this moment be unborn/uncreated and need nothing else than there is? How do you respond to this thing and what is your explanation for this then?

@WokeBloke Then explain me how anything is "existing" right NOW

@WokeBloke We weren't talking about the post, but whole movie that is happening right NOW when you read this message. That whole movie creates itself every moment and my only question was that why would movie need creator if god doesn't. Considering the amount of trips you have claimed that you have taken I am little bit confused about you being constantly stuck in this one thing. Answer to that question first and then we can move on, thanks : )

@WokeBloke ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ Don't use some eartly logic that works within the dream that is happening right NOW. If the logic that it was not created works for God then why wouldn't it work for the "experience" right NOW? You can't argue against the logic, because it is exactly same you use in different context and in that it works for you. And I can't give any convincing evidence, because nothing in spirituality is possible to "proof" using language. Take psychedelics and contemplate, if you can't take that easy logic I am trying to offer.

@WokeBloke + what I see from your responses and how you behave at least towards me is kind of argumentative and if you for real wanted to know what is true then you shouldn't be arguing with everybody who is giving some type of explanation. It is not about who had the right answer to begin with, but who ends up having it eventually. So there is no problem that someone got it "before" you, because then you can be that person for someone else. You seem to be the person who is telling everyone how the thing is "for real" going then why would you ask opinions from others if still you end up arguing every answer that is being told and you accept only those which you agree with to begin with. So the only thing you are seeking is validation for your own opinion and that is not point of this community or any deep conversation. Point is to go forward and understand something more : ) Remember that what I told you is not to hate, but just wanted you to know it, because I care about you, my lovely friend <3

@WokeBloke If you say that God doesn't need to be created the why would the movie that is happening right NOW then need to be created. Couldn't the God and the movie be same thing? Also why would movie need to create someone to watch the movie and why couldn't it kind of watch itself. So there is no need to anything else that the movie to exist and that is everything that there is. Ta - da

@OBEler It will happen after your physical death so basically when the previous movie ends permanently. Nothing will have affect to different dreams, because anyways all possible "parallel universes" with different outcomes will happen so you don't need to relive the exact same movie, but with little difference. Basically anything you do right NOW has zero impact to anything, because the opposite will happen someday so right NOW just think want you want to do with your life and that's it. You should also notice that everything happens by itself so actually you don't have control nor there is doer/perceiver anyways, but only the movie which is playing right NOW and it is the only thing that there is. Everything there is, is content of the movie and therefore there can't be subject or otherwise the subject would be the content itself, which would either change definition of subject or make it object.

@WokeBloke NOW it seems that you are about to get what is being told you and, if you would understand that you would also understand that there is no need to exist anything, but that which is "perceived". We are the same being and therefore right NOW you are the only one who is having the experience. Everyone else right NOW is like dream figure for you before you jump in to experience life from their percpective and at this point WokeBloke is dream figure, because no one is there, because it is here. And no one is here where I write this when you read this, because I am reading it where this message is being read.

@Leo Gura I said it also in past, but when the movie which is everything which is "perceived" is 100 % what is there then there is no room for I. If you call that 100% thing right NOW as I then yeah I is everything, but I don't understand why would you call that I and calling it I or unicorn are both equally as stupid, because the thing you try to point out as I or unicorn doesn't exist to begin with. I am not trying to arque, but I honestly would like you to watch one more time towards that "I" and understand that whatever is "perceived" is not the thing "perceiving", because the movie is just only thing which exists as GOD, EVERYTHING and NOTHINGNESS. I guess it is only word play, because we agree that everything that exist is one thing and we can call that as any word we like, but for me it is hard to call it as I, because that word does not mean anything, because NOW it feels like I am dead in sense, because I am not lying right NOW, but I don't identify as I anymore and also there is nothing which is identifying as anything anymore. I is NOW deleted from the movie and the movie no longer presents it and the movie is only thing which remains. @Cooper There is no duality if the only thing which exists is the movie and there is nothing else

Day 17 Today I learned little bit chest isolation as well and I decided to learn different body isolations so my dance becomes even more fluid like. I found salsa body isolation playlist and I will try all these isolations at some point and I hope my dancing will skyrocket after that. I could also make choreography about what I have learned and that could be the thing that I first upload, but I am not still sure about anything so I will just continue learning. Here is the salsa playlist! Time danced: 9 hours

@Someone here These kind of sentences keep me thinking whatever you understand the thing or not. We are the same person, but we don't and we can't exist at the same time. I am here NOW and when I receive the message where you are then I am not here anymore writing it. This thing is not about what exist for someone, but what exist at all and that what you "perceive" is all there is so actually there can't be happening things same time like you previously commented as you can see.

@Tim R I would also say that even experience is too much to said and movie is better term, because movie can exist without a watcher. Still everything we do right NOW is just wordplay, because we both understand the thing

@OBEler It's not like we are connected, but it is 2 different dreams you are having so when your body dies and then you live my life next and that is when you receive your own message you just writed. We are the same person. I am you.