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This seems like a relatively new phenomena here. I’ve seen like 4 or 5 dudes in the past month like this with stubborn ideas about how dating works or should work, but who also have limited or no experience In general though, most of the guys giving dating advice here have a reasonable amount of experience I’d say, especially longer term members I also agree that any dating advice that is overly theoretical is questionable tho. It’s like trying to learn football or basketball by reading books. Yea maybe you can get some valuable info but getting lost in theory is likely detrimental

I’m always sceptical when I see people refer to themselves as tier 2. Kinda reminds me of how you see a ton of people self-type as INFJ with MBTI because it’s often perceived to be a very desirable and intriguing type. But then upon further examination those people sometimes lack even basic social skills. Like unless you’ve really got your shit together in life you can’t really call yourself tier 2. You have to have thoroughly taken care of all the survival shit in life, to the point where most people in lower stages would look at your life and go ‘wow’ or at very least respect you for what you’ve done and experienced. To be tier 2 you have to have experienced a lot of what life has to offer and integrated all of the lower stages pretty thoroughly. I’m not necessarily targeting this at you, it’s more of a general observation with not only SD but any kind of personality metric. People very very often type themselves what they want to be rather than what they really are.

Normally I'd disagree with something targeted like this, but I'm like 95% sure the dude is a troll from that thread about race IQ, so who cares

Many people go to uni/college for the social aspect rather than the education. I don't think that's bad either. Having top notch social skills and connections will likely get you much further in life than an engineering degree. I'd swap my First class CS degree for top tier charisma and social skills in a heartbeat. Plenty of people are also content being nurses, social care workers, psychologists etc. and find that very fulfilling even if they don't pay exceptionally well. It depends what you want out of life.

They're more likely to increase your EQ and creativity than your IQ.

I had sex on acid recently (though I was high and she wasn't) and it enhanced it a lot for both of us It made me far more open and loving before we fucked, she said she felt very cared for and loved by the way I was acting towards her on acid, which I assume made her way more turned on and horny than usual. The only downside was I couldn't physically cum, I think because of the vasoconstriction. But I had almost like multiple mental orgasms. It was very bizarre, but good.

Oh, I think you are agreeing with me. I thought you were disagreeing at first

I mean I understand that being on psychedelics would allow you to perceive yourself turning into an alien. But leo is presenting it as though he is able to do this independent of psychedelics, in the so called 'material' world such that a camera should be able to pick it up. But then acts confused that a camera can't pick it up.

I tend to use snapchat where it's pretty standard to send picture messages. That's a happy medium and works well. Also, you can text without being boring.

I like pretty much all of the actualized.org content, I think it's a fantastic resource, and I like this forum. I just don't like that Leo is claiming to be turning into an alien, but that a camera can't capture it. He said he's desperately looking for a camera that can capture it, implying every one he's tried can't. That comes across as very unhinged, especially since he is experimenting with powerful psychedelics. There are basically two possibilities. Either Leo is experiencing things far beyond me that I am nowhere near ready to explore, or he's deluded himself. I have no idea which is true, but either way I don't really have an interest in pursuing whatever it is Leo is experiencing right now. I want to focus on basic spirituality and groundedness, like Leo did for many many years before reaching wherever he is now. I feel like others would benefit from that as well. This feels like the kind of post that may get me kicked out of here, if that's the case, so be it.

That's what I would actually do, yea. The block thing was a bit of an exaggeration. I've done voice messages before but it's usually after I know someone a bit better. It's a bit much when you just start talking to someone, I think it would weird out a lot of girls too.

Gotta admit, that hit the part of my mind that triggers alarm bells too.

I might ghost a girl who did this to me if I'm honest lol Maybe that's my introversion not liking voice/video messages with people I don't know though. I just feel like it's too much for someone you just met

@Raze is shitting himself reading that ?

Look dude I don’t wanna start this again so I’m gonna make one simple comment and leave it at that: The only reason I got involved in the last thread was because it annoys me seeing people give advice about stuff they don’t have any experience with. You were talking about how wrong, untruthful, incorrect certain dating advice is, meanwhile you apparently have never been in a relationship, and don’t have any experience with dating (what you told me a while ago in another thread)

What results do you value?

Romantically? What truth? What is being contradicted? How are your opinions contradicting mine?

Well most guys here define experience with women as relationships, deep connection, and sex. I don't really know how else you would define it. Good luck learning to play baseball from observation. It just annoys me a bit that you present yourself as an authority with little experience. If you feel that is a personal attack, then feel free to report me.

You should start going to college parties. It's a lot easier to build attraction in really sociable environments like that.

I'm not taking away your right to have opinions, I'm just pointing out that you have no experience with what you are talking about confidently. That is a perfectly valid criticism.

I agree with you on redpill for the most part, I just think you're also a bit naïve. There are nuggets of truth to redpill, but the ideology and a lot of the theory is toxic. A lot of what women tell you they're attracted to and what they actually go for in guys is quite different. You will find that out when you actually try to attract girls instead of just talking to them casually. As a guy it helps you a lot to have some of the 'alpha' traits redpill preaches, as well as the sensitivity and vulnerability that you're talking about. Women like men who have both. It's hard to build attraction with only sensitivity and vulnerability, but those traits are much better for building long term relationships once you've already established attraction.

It's an important point when you are presenting yourself as an authority on women and dating.

I said this already, but I feel like most people would benefit more from having some no-self or non-dual experiences before they start going into all the higher level stuff Leo is talking about. If you haven't even had no-self experiences or understand non-duality, how are you hoping to properly experience something like god consciousness or alien love or whatever without deluding yourself? Leo did a ton of basic spirituality before reaching the levels he is talking about now. Even if they are true, almost everyone hasn't gone through the basic stages first.

What do you do to meet girls? Where do you normally go?

If someone is spouting tons of direct racism, hate speech, nazi support etc. or if someone is a pedophile, essentially everyone agrees they should be cancelled/banned/prevented from spreading their ideas So at some point there is a line that can be crossed where almost everyone collectively decides that someone should not be allowed to continue posting online. Mostly what you're talking about is just a disagreement over where that line should be, because everyone thinks it should be somewhere different. But the line always has to be somewhere or social media becomes a toxic mess. So when someone says they want to cancel cancel-culture I imagine they mean that they want the line to be further to the right than it is currently, they don't want to abolish the line all together.