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The study has the issues you would expect. It claims to control for religion but something like 85% of the participants were religious which makes that pretty dubious. Also, only 16% of participants waited until marriage. Those aren't great numbers. And there's a good chance it was less than that and some were lying too. I bet you at least half of those did other sexual stuff but just postponed actual sex until marriage, notice they use the word intercourse. That fucks up the numbers even more. Self-reported studies are also always a bit dodgy, especially for topics like sex, which have a component of shame and guilt. You also have the issue that actually measuring relationship and sexual satisfaction objectively is really fucking difficult to begin with. It also doesn't address the fact that people who's first sexual relationship is marriage have no reference points for what a good relationship, good sex and good communication look like, which means their answers to a survey are going to be skewed. You also can't conclude from this study that it's the right decision for everyone and it should be legally enforced. Just because there is a statistical indication that couples who wait until marriage to have sex have better relationships, doesn't mean that everyone who waits until marriage to have sex will have a better relationship and that we should enforce this legally. The best case conclusion you could draw is that it is the right decision for some people and that there is something worth investigating more here. I don't really follow your point here. Your point essentially reads as "most people's first relationship is shitty and they don't realise it, which is why premarital sexual relationships are less salubrious" I struggle to follow this point as well, could you expand more on what you mean? I don't see how this relates to relationships, really. One problem with Western science is that it kind of tries to be a one-size-fits all solution. It views all humans as the same, when that is just not the case. The above study is a good example. It hints at the idea that everyone would be happier if they waited longer to have sex because it assumes all people are the same. When really all it showed is that at best a small percentage of people were maybe happier. That doesn't mean everyone would be. That's what I meant by too general. It's a very common issue with psych studies that is essentially a fundamental flaw of the Western scientific method.

Not that I don’t believe you, but this is something I would ask for links for. Stuff like this is notoriously hard to prove in studies. One unavoidable issue is that people who were virgins until marriage don’t have many reference points for satisfaction, sexual quality and communication in relationships. Most people in my experience thought their first relationship was great while they were in it, but now they would look back on it and realise how toxic/shitty it was because they have more reference points. But if someone were to survey you while you were in that relationship you’d probably rate it pretty highly. Such a cost benefit analysis is essentially impossible because it would be far too general, and would be so susceptible to bias that there would be no point in doing it in the first place For some people waiting until marriage is probably the right thing for them, for others it is definitely not, so really the only fair option is to give people the choice.

It doesn't mean they have a better relationship, nor that they are better parents. People who remain virgins until marriage are likely also religious and part of cultures who will force you to stay married whether or not you are happy and satisfied with each other. Unhappy couples who are forced to stay together do not make good parents.

If you see it differently then call it something different instead of calling it MGTOW, which has all of the above connotations. Don't be the dickhead who uses a commonly accepted term to mean something different than how everyone else uses it, and then gets angry when you're misunderstood

If you wanna be a frontend web developer, from where you are you could probably get an entry level job just by learning JavaScript and building up a nice portfolio. If you wanna be a more general purpose web developer you'd also need to learn a backend language. I'd recommend a PHP framework like Laravel or a Python framework like Django. And again you'd want to build up a portfolio with those frameworks.

That isn't necessarily a good thing

You don't need to label yourself as part of some group for doing this, it's pretty normal

If the mechanical box didn't exist, it wouldn't be infinity

Was this not the company that sold a juice machine that had a barcode scanner built into the capsule to make sure you only used juicero drinks pouches with it? And then it turned out you could actually just squeeze the juice pouches to get the juice out rather than buying a $300 machine

You actually (unknowingly I think) uncovered an important aspect of 'spiral' dynamics with this sentence. There's a reason it's spiral dynamics and not line dynamics. It combines a line + circle model of development into a spiral model

lmao

It’s a weird thing to obsess over The natural response would be to assume it’s a coincidence since that is by far and away the most likely and sensible explanation

I don’t think there are any holocaust survivors using this forum that would be offended by that statement. When that statement was made it wasn’t directed at anyone, it was a general point about the nature of ‘evil’. I get what you’re saying with meeting people where they are it but it also sounds like you’re suggesting we should outlaw all talk from an absolute perspective when that’s pretty much what everyone is here to understand Ohhhhhhh, you’re a Christian. That makes a lot of sense

Think for a second: if you did want to support pedophilia, would it be intelligent to intentionally plaster that support all over the business you intend to use to support you through life and make lots of money with?

Yup but it would involve him basically admitting defeat and swallowing his pride which is just not something he’d ever do

Also worth remembering that he tried to back out of the deal quite hard. He was either going to take a 1B dollar fine or have to go through with the deal, and if you have an ego as big as Musk and as much F you money as he does, the 1B fine feels like losing even if it costs you less money overall The ‘winning’ play from his egoic perspective could have been to buy twitter, fire everyone and burn it to the ground just to say fuck you to them Its a very Musk thing to do

Healthy game is more or less about building charisma, building confidence, learning to be authentic, and facing fears Yes there are plenty of pickup guys who don’t embody that but that’s what the healthy version is

He was def one of the first big anti-SJW people. He basically radicalized me into that genre when I was mid teens, like 13-16. I'm soooo glad I grew out of it. I wouldn't say he invented it, but he was a pioneer of that genre for sure and is probably responsible for influencing a hell of a lot of people with that rhetoric.

@Tahuti I recommend you type with both hands instead of one hand on dick and one hand on keyboard

Being authentic is a good thing. You need to run this balance between authenticity and pushing yourself to change. I often see people saying both of these things: You must be your authentic self, don't change yourself for others You must disregard your nice-guy authenticity and make yourself appear as masculine as possible When in reality the ideal is to balance these two things.

+1 for remote job. Plus if it's truly remote and you work for chill people you can travel while you work too.

It’s closer to pure mental gymnastics than pure statistics

Sounds like one of you’s been binging actualized MP3s again tut tut

You'll run into problems with this mindset pretty quick. Always following the upsides and impulsive options might make you happy in the short term but you will incur long term consequences which make you miserable. You need to be careful, consider downsides, and take precautions. As an analogy, 'Greedy' machine learning algorithms are usually some of the worst because they just follow the most obvious and easily obtainable reward, which means they miss longer term opportunities for greater reward, and will often find themselves stuck in pitfalls and traps.

Accidentally getting pregnant or getting someone pregnant is by far the #1 It has the potential to ruin your life 10x worse than an STD. This is oddly specific and I suspect not that common compared to STD/pregnancy risk. I suppose it's always good to be cautious, maybe this is a bigger risk than I realise since it isn't something I have to be concerned with as a guy