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Usually, when discussing why dating is so bad nowadays, we have a tendency as a culture to point the fingers at men. And promote the vibe that females are innocent. But this woman, Kait Willett, brings our brilliantly the other side of the eqution: what issues women bring to the underline problem. I greatly enjoyed how unbiased she was in this assesment, and she explained ideas that I have not heard before and clarified concepts that I have. Well worth it. Let me know if you relate and how this makes sense to you.

I am gonna take a little break from this sub-forum. @CARDOZZO was correct in the beginning of this thread. Should have listened to you

@Alexop Yes, of course there’s a bunch of higher quality and more mature women, and usually it comes with age. The issue with age is that they lose their looks. Girls in their 20s are rarely mature. People in general in their 20s are rarely mature. What’s the new information? But there’s a huge chunk of people who are 30+, has internal baggages, are immature and not in a place to build healthy relationships. Loyalty & femininity are not the only conditions for a healthy relationship. They are not even the most important.

You have to seriously stop gaslighting. I already responded to you about this there. I never called them trash in the literal sense. If you have low quality people in your life that no longer serves you, you throw them to trash. As it was the case for me and that’s what I suggested to the OP. This is a figure of speech, you are not meant to literally throw them to trash as if they were a piece of trash. Unbelieveable. Also, in no way was I implying all women, just low quality women that comes in abundance to your life with hardcore pickup phase. You would know what I mean, if you actually had gone through this phase.

Thanks for informing us.

I enjoyed great novelty and variety with my previous girlfriend. We tried all sorts of different toys, kinks, roleplays and positions. And we were always coming up with new to try. It was amazing.

Yes, it has been extremely bad lately. But we are patient. You have provided us so much priceless value completely for free. And this whole forum is free. We have nothing to complain about. Thank you for your work! ❤️

This is not about getting laid. It is about seeing how both sides are behaving unconsciously, and unconscious behaviour is the foundation for things getting fucked up. Also, you talk like I have no experience with the ladies. I have probably approached and had results with them more than you will have in three lifetimes. I am not talking out of my ass. I don’t participate much in spirituality and politics sub-forums because I don’t have master level experience and knowledge there, but here I do have. I know how unconscious the ladies are. How irresponsible they are. How they are shooting themselves in the foot with their immaturity. Becoming aware of how they do it, and why is core to our work here. That’s the whole damn point of this thread. Not fucking complaining, bitching or victimhood. Amazing how you guys can project all these crap onto an otherwise neutral conversation. God riddance.

Since you guys were complaining about the lenght, I’ll go the other extreme just to tease you and share a short clip from the same lady discussing a point in the bigger picture: why women avoid accountability, and how they are shooting themselves in the foot. She articulated well and gives good points from the other side. I don’t understand how you guys don’t see the value in her perspectives. I have contemplated to death the issues of men in modern dating. It’s nice to have the other side as well, to have the full picture. The underline problem is this: both sides are too unconscious, immature, and irresponsible and are too self-deceived and self-deluded to be building a healthy relationship based on truth. Basically the issue is what this whole work we do here is about, ta-daa! And that’s exactly why game works. It works because it is all about playing with the unconscious.

It’s always nice to get lost in the world and survival for a while and then come back here to read the blog and insights Leo provides and reminds us. Feel like coming back home, and that the unconsciouss of the world is not the only thing there is in this life. I truly do feel like I was born a thousand years too early.

Relationships is just basic human need, just like socialization. At some point of development tho, some people are able to transcend beyond them.

Women Will Never Satisfy Men: 1. I like how you flipped the script and touched the other side of the coin that usually gets ignored: ”They don’t give a shit about your sexual needs” Usually it’s the men that don’t care about womens’ needs, especially in casual sex. 2. Come to think of it I have never been satisfied sexually single or in a relationship. When single, I could have almost as much sex as I wanted, it was just damn costly (time) and sex itself was mostly poor in quality. In a relationship the quality of sex is way greater. But what you gain in quality, you lose in quantity. As a man with a very high libido, no girlfriend was ever truly able to satisfy me sexually, and I always had to also satisfy myself. But I would be lying if I said that the feeling of an intimate love-making with the woman you love and absolutely adore can be replaced by myself. The cost of that though, is a lot of truth will have to be sacrificed, to indulge in such fantasy. Relationship is an illusion!

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@Natasha Tori Maru Why do you know

What the hell is this. I don’t think I even want to know

Having high standards is not ego. You guys have a complete false understanding of what ego is. High standards means self-love and self-respect. Having unrealistic standards is a different matter.

You guys are being too uptight and seemingly reactive. She brought great points and new perspectives I have not heard of before. That was the whole point. There was zero complaining or bitching from me. Like I said, in our culture, the general pull is that dating issues are blamed on men more so than on women, and I agree that men have responsibilities to step up too. But here I am bringing perspectives on the other side of the coin. Nothing more, nothing less. What’s up with the aggressive tone? If you know game, you are still gonna have it easy with the ladies. More easy than ever actually.

You are correct. And don’t get me wrong, I have been in 4 long term, serious relationships in my short life. Mostly with girls that were not very psychologically and mentally developed (relatively speaking of course), despite being physically attractive. I always ended up outgrowing them and feeling unsatisfied in the relationship at the end, and then having to end the relationships. I rather be alone if I cant find a proper high quality in my life. This way I don’t waste so much unnecessary time and energy on things that are not worth it for me, not at this point of my life anymore. But not everyone should model me. I have exhausted the whole dating and sex game extensively. I no longer crave quantity. Quality is where its all for me now.

This. For me especially, I have extremely high standards. Also, with the raise of unhealthy female's movement and other stuff, women are pushing men away and are less willing to let a man have a place in their life, and to provide proper containment for them. Obviously not talking about all women. Teal made a video talking about this 6 years ago, and I feel like the situation has gotten worse and worse every year.

I honestly don't see the value in comments like this. What are you trying to accomplish? For example, you could point out the obvious way she is biased? Would that be more constructive to the conversation? Hmm?

We have to definite what dating means. From my experience, if I were to pick random 100 girls from the street that is attractive and in the age range 20-30, I would not make at least 80% of them my wife. That's for certain. I would imagine in a place like the US, it would be worse. Light dating where there's not much commitment, AKA, FWB? Sure I would have that with more women. That being said, I dont see the point of FWBs in my life right now, would be a waste of energy and time. Finally, dont take titles that are designed to play there algorithm's game too seriously. The point is that a lot of girls is not worth the hassle, depending on where you are coming from. If you are a newbie who haven't gotten much of that out of your system? Go for it!

Where the hell you got complaining from? I am just providing consciousness to the situation, which is the foundation of our work here. Becoming more conscious of what is.

If you want to constructively criticize, at least provide proper arguments. I provided proper information spreading awareness and legit practical tips, and you had nothing to say about anything.

I'm not the best to answer this as I don't find much joy to engage in dating anymore. You can call it outgrowing it. But from the little I do do dating, it is an unconscious cesspool. I truly understand now what Leo means when he said some year ago that "most people are too immature to build proper healthy relationships". I totally understand that now. I also understand how bad and unconscious my behavior was in my peak game years. I was a complete devil, and I was downplaying it for years afterwards. Only in the past 1-2 years have I truly understood how toxic and manipulative I have been. It is extremely hard to have ton of sex with new girls as a normie, if you deeply care about truth and are committed to behave accordingly. Nowadays I try as much as possible to find more mature and more classy women with good values, so I niche down hard. I mostly spend time in places where these people hang out. I avoid clubs and dating apps like I’m allergic to them. I have been spending more time in fine bars, rather than loud obnoxious clubs. Unfortunately it is freezing cold winter here at the moment so that discourages me to cold approach even more. When the warmer seasons arrive, I will approach girls more in parks, hiking, outdoor places and events. It makes sense that the more quality girls dont enjoy time in loud obnoxious clubs nearly as much as more immature girls. Did this give you an idea? I am not sure what specifically you want to know and so I am not sure if I answered your question at all. I guess in a nutshell: as I keep growing exponentially away from the gravitational pull of society, and the dating world seems to be getting more unconscious, finding a proper high quality partner becomes a much harder quest. Less and less worth the hassle. Thank you for the question tho. Always nice to get an opportunity to articulate my thoughts.

@Kid A Apply Leo's insight: Skip the first 20% of the video, watch in 1.5X speed and if you find it valuable, you can go back and watch it from the start. Give it a chance, I don't share just anything here.