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@Zenterus They might look like they are on their way somewhere but has a spare 10-15 minutes, if you open them well. Many girls are missed, if you skip these. Most girls during a day are going somewhere. Quick numbers lead mostly nowhere, I agree. But a solid 10-15 mins is good.

I will have to say this first of all. If your GF wants children, you are doing her extremely fucking dirty. So I truly hope it’s not her big goal. Then secondly, what do you want from your relationship? What are the pros and cons of your relationship right now?

@Zenterus I will emphasize. I am talking about girls who are walking full speed. The hardest sets, so to speak. The ones who has the hardest and most unwanted to be bothered body languages, and are clearly going somewhere. If a girl is sitting at a park, no problems.

Teal Swan has some interesting takes on sexual attraction. It would be interesting to have Peter Ralston write a book about it. It would be either a masterpiece or a total miss. But I do find this topic interesting. What is it that truly attracts? My own attraction has shifted dramatically, the more I have done this work. The more mature and conscious I become, the more I am attracted to depth and maturity. The more empathetic I become, the more I am attracted to empathy in others; and the more selfishness turns me off. There is a huge difference in what I am attracted to now vs 10 years ago. Can’t even compare. Even compared to 5 years ago, the difference was huge.

That being said, My opens during the day are something along the lines of: ”Hey, excuse me.. 2 seconds / minute.. she stops and gives me her attention.. I was going to see my friend, but I saw you, and you have a very elegant / artistic / interesting look to you” So it is fairly nonchalant and you can’t necessarily call this fully direct either. And the whole ”interested, but not sold” mindset is always there, and it’s genuine.

@Zenterus I can see a half-indirect working but how do you stop someone walking full speed with full indirect? It feels so disgenuine. In nightlife, I love indirect as I am just trolling people on the open, which is genuine and aligned.

That makes sense. I definitely still have a bunch of fuckboyness in me that oftentimes comes out. What do you think about this concept: If a girl is confused about whether you are a fuckboy or a bf material, it is a problem in itself. ——- And mom game, I love it I just love meeting these girls with their family, only good stuff comes out of it

Feel free to share them with us!

The more I mature the more I agree with this. The problem with most girls is that it’s better to go the fuckboy route with them first until sex, then bring up relatioship qualities in you. But the truth is, you probably don’t want a relationship with these girls who needs fuckboy route first, anyways. They are probably more unstable and immature, in general. ——— I wanted to share this new insight I got lately somewhere but I didn’t have a place for it. But this is a good one. So lately, my new favourite ”targets” are girls who are with their moms. Man, if a girl has a good relationship with her mother, and the mother likes me (the easy part), these are two extremely good signs of it going somewhere really good with the girl.

It’s a good post. Much more details can be involved but this is good overall. I would add being more social, just for the sake of socializing. This keeps you in a good state and momentum, so when you bump into a truly attractive girl, the playful ”I dont care about your validation” state really oozes off of you.

Indirect during daygame, stopping someone when they are walking full speed is the problem. At most, ”a half indirect” can work.

@Schizophonia I honestly don’t know what you are talking about. What have I said here that is remotely aggressive?

Not sure what you mean

That’s human nature for you. Most people are survival zombies.

In practice, every man has to learn social skills and charisma now. Which is good in a way. It’s almost like society has to face its own brutal nature and come up with honest ways to deal with it, rather than depend on clutches. That being said, if it’s too much at once, then it can also collapse society.

Ironically, in my game development, I have come full circle. At this point I am mostly myself. I have my goofy side and I have my more serious side. I show both depending on the envinronment and the situation. I am mostly myself, with social calibration. The only thing I hold back is my philosophical side (which to be fair is a huge part of me, but I am talking about my personality here), that is something I will virtually never bring up. And I don’t care if it’s a hot girl or an ugly girl, if they don’t vibe with me, or don’t like me, then it’s see ya. I text mostly what I want, and don’t have any hard rules for texting. If she don’t vibe with me, then I will meet the next girl within 10 seconds. My results are better than ever, especially with the better looking ladies.

Well said.

Tease, qualify them, ask for compliances, connect on an emotional level

Tease, qualify them, ask for compliances, connect on an emotional level

You need to get them to invest in you as well for it to be a solid number.

Yes but the point of the thread was that Vikings were way more than just strenght and victorty, and not the good stuff.

Happens too often in a place like this.

Hey everyone, I haven’t been very active here lately because I’ve been quite busy with life. I have been doing much more socializing than I had planned for this summer. I did eventually reach a point now, where I am quite burned off from all the social games, superficiality, fakery and manipulations. And so, I was inspired to create this thread to open a space for you to reflect: ”Am I aligned with what I am doing in life right now?” ”Is this what I want?” ”Is this headed to where I want my life to go?” - - - - - How are you doing? Personally, as much as I want intimacy with another human being, the games that I have to play to get it.. the juice is not necessarily worth the squeeze at this point in my life anymore. And so, this saddens me quite deeply. Being alone is very hard as a natural extrovert. Any extroverts here that struggles with this? I wish I was able to be fully content being alone for the rest of my life. Damn, it’s hard.

Yes. Hard conversations are extremely important to have, but can we have them in a respectful, civil manner? This is really what it all comes down to. If there is no maturity and consciousness involved in the conversation, it will spiral downwards to hell.

Unfortunately or fortunately, you can’t put moderstors in there.