WelcometoReality

Yeah, I'll guess it only adds confusion by using that word so I'll stop using it.

I think it's great that your willing to see these flaws and take action toward healing. Shaming is more negativity which creates a neverending loop or in the worst cases it ends in self hatred and suicide. Letting go of these feelings will instead create a neverending loop of positivity into love and self transcendence.

Did you watch the video? She explains it well.

@Shambhu we can say that a thought or sound exists but can we say that 'something' which has no characteristics exist? When the thought or sound passes it goes back into that void which is why I call it non-existence.

Yeah I agree. It's probably minds interpretation of it since it can't go there but it really doesn't matter what you want to call it. We can call it 0 or void or coca-cola I guess. ?

Yeah I get that alot. ? The mind certainly can't think of non-existence anyway.

There would still be consciousness/awareness even though there would be no phenomena. The words nothingness and consciousness points to the same thing or the same no-thing which is non-existence.

Yes definitely. Which is why energetic work is needed after awakening to cleanse the body of unwanted thought/feeling patterns.

Yes. There's definitely a learning curve to this. Depending on how much ego falls away it might be unavoidable.

Once you awaken you realize that everything you thought was real was just a dream. You thought you were a separate person living in a world with other separate persons. Some of that illusion falls away on it's own but some might still be left after the awakening. The awakening and the time after can be a really beautiful time but at some time there might be difficult feelings creeping into experience. Fear, anger, shame, you name it, can still be a part of everyday experience. These are parts of the illusion which haven't fallen away on it's own and will take some conscious effort to dissolve. For example there can be fear about the implications of the realization itself which you start to run from. How one might ask? By running from the fear. You distract yourself by doing things that make you forget. Gaming, watching TV, reading books. This takes honesty to see. It's like when you're dreaming at night. You might have a nightmare of a monster who is chasing you. If you knew that it was a dream you would know that you would've nothing to fear because the monster was created by your own mind. So how do you deal with the fear about the realization? You face it because there is actually nothing to be afraid of. The fear is the monster itself. By meeting it and feeling it fully it will start to dissolve. The same is true for anger and shame. They are the proof that you still believe parts of the dream. Inquire into what beliefs you hold onto that makes these feelings manifest.

Yes, this certainly has been true for me. Avoiding these feelings only prolongs the suffering and knowing that might perhaps serve as a motivator to face them.

Yes, that's exactly what's trying to be communicated here. ?

Yes awakening is just the beginning. After that comes the embodiment work and it's amazing to see the egoic patterns fall away. I wouldn't trade it away for all the samadhi experiences in the world. ? To be ok with being in any state really provides some great benefits for the world. ?

I don't know about the ego death which is experienced when on a psychedelic trip. The one I talk about is believing you'll die with all the physical symptoms like increased heart rate, sweating etc. Why existential crisis? ?

@Someone here Ego death and NDE is probably the closest thing to physical death one can come while still having a body left to tell the tale.

@Razard86 I haven't tried manifestation myself but it seems valid from an egoic point of view. Once awakening happens the one who wants to manifest falls away.

You're not missing anything but you think you do. No final awakening and nothing to understand. Hope that helped! ?

@Javfly33 Yeah the feeling of lack can be so strong. The solution is to dissolve that feeling, everything else is just a temporary fix.

@Preety_India Look into The Work by Byron Katie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIuCvUJWMfM&t=26 She also has a worksheet on her site that will help you get started.

You can transcend ad infinitum but sometime you need to go through it. Running won't help.

Well let's assume I got the bad news. Then there might be resistances to the bad news. For example anger, fear, hopelessness. That's the resistance to truth. How would I meet those feelings? I could simply believe them and that would cause suffering. Or I could see them for what they were and let them go. Of course it won't be as easy as I make it out to be when writing this. At least not in the beginning. Yeah you're coming down from the honeymoon phase of realization and here comes the resistances to it. I've been there. Read David R Hawkins book "Letting Go". It has all the information you need on h8w to deal with emotional resistance.

Living in alignment with truth is beyond happiness. Living out off alignment with truth is suffering.

Yeah the dream analogy may or may not resonate. It points to this experience you're having right now in this moment. Waking up in the same body is a conclusion you make based on the memories you're having. I'm not saying that they're not true but the dream analogy would be that you're dreaming that you wake up in the same body each morning.

Yes, there only the present moment. But not only the appearance of the moment but also the awareness of it. Well cessation shows you the essential core of experience. It's a non-experience since it's beyond sensory input but something (you have to read between the lines here) is aware of cessation happening or we wouldn't be able to talk about it. This core can be sensed (again you have to read between the lines here) while experiences are happening. That place is beyond experience and it is the core of what you are.

Yeah, we call it different names depending on where on the continuum we are.