Godishere

@Leo Gura @Inliytened1 wow. Mind fucking blown. As always.... The contemplation continues.

@Leo Gura why do we return to this dream after leaving the dream temporarily though. God is infinitely conscious so why does God return to this specific dream upon awakening to itself/ dying before you physically die. I mean it's one thing to become conscious that you only exist as idea but then why return to this dream. Why not just start dreaming up something else?

@Leo GurarGurar Have you become conscious of God in your day to day life now? Your baseline conciousness, I guess I am implying. I have awoken many times now, but seem to can't seem to break free from the illusion permanently.

Can someone ban this dude? Mods?

I like this because it's gentle and won't overwhelm you.

Hey guys, I've seen some confusion around the whole no self realization so I just wanted to check my experience of it against others. In my experience, which I have had a couple of times, I just became conscious that the shapes and the colours were actually imagining myself as a human and that the shapes, colours and the bubble was actually what I am made of. I guess you could say I became conscious that what I was made from was consciousness and not physical reality. Is this considered the no-self facet of awakening? This might clear up some confusion for myself and others. Thanks

Ahhhh I see, I will continue my contemplation. Thank you Leo. Would you consider this any specific facet of awakening? I feel like I've had other facets, but skipped this one. Which seems to be strange considering it's a basic facet of awakening.

@Inliytened1 yeah man I have experienced this. I have notes and notes of my insights. I just wish I could live from that consciousness... But when I'm that conscious, I also know I want to be back in the dream ?? yet here I am chasing the awakening again!!

@Leo Gura I have come to the conclusion, this obviously cannot be grasped by the ego mind. God is not human, so how can 'you' as a human understand it. I keep awakening to myself as God, I've had roughly 10 awakenings now... but I keep coming back! Maybe I don't want to accept I'm alone and make myself forget. Is there a point this integrates so strongly with the ego, you can't fool yourself anymore?

@SQAAD I agree with you, this is still yet to be explained in a way where the rational mind can understand. During my awakening it made perfect sense. But coming back to normal reality I couldn't comprehend just one bubble. I do remember it was the illusion of time that was confusing the ego. As Leo says, time isn't just one dimentional. I guess that's the dualistic mind. I'm here and your there (two/other). However there is no proof you exist from my POV, although it's so easy to believe because it's infinitely intelligent. The question for me is will I cycle through all of your lives? Or are you merely nothing but an idea.

@Consilience gold. Well I guess I would be plotting or imagining some way to pretend I'm not God and then trick myself again ?

Let's be honest bro. If me and you were completely enlightened we wouldn't be here talking about it.

I agree with the integration part. Obviously these are tools, and should be used as such. However, I do believe that when you awaken deep and frequently enough they do have the capacity to alleviate suffering. When you are more conscious, you are less attached. Whether you have the maturity to ground yourself after awakening is another story. So yeah stop looking at them as a high or escape from your current reality and more as a tool to understanding of the Universe. I have had nothing but positive experiences personally, but I also do not have any mental illness and use them for understanding only. Not to escape.

I feel like there is still confusion here that someone who can articulate it into simple terms needs to clarify.

Yes. Purely for more awakening and understanding.

@TheDao he could explain to you why for the next 100 years and you still wouldn't understand. Do them responsibly and find out for yourself, if you dare. It's like trying to explain colours to a blind person, it's not possible.

Clinging?

Had a few of these. Definitely after awakening. Don't be another moron like C.M and stay off the psycs for awhile. You will come back.

@EntheogenTruthSeeker hilarious reading this from the outside looking in. Your friend is delusional, it makes me cringe. It's actually kind of sad that people get brainwashed into this nonsense from such a young age with no choice but to accept it into their bios. You have some serious work to do just to rid yourself of any ideology unfortunately. You can do it though, it will be difficult.

It is infinitely intelligent. It imagines here and there. Past and future. But it's only happening now. There is no time. Time is imaginary, you don't experience time. Only now. You can become aware of this right.... Now. ? On that note, and I guess to elaborate. What I mean is, you are sitting here as God in an infinite dream. This dream is what we call reality. God imagines everything. Its imagining itself right now as a human talking to me, but we are just God talking to God. Sitting here.. dreaming up all of this around us. Everything in this dream is dualistic, which causes an illusion of here vs there but it's actually nowhere.... What a mind fuck that is to become conscious of.

Has anyone merged so radically with reality that you can no longer tell the difference between you and other people. This happened to me recently with a friend, and it was fucking insane, I felt like I was losing it completely and I panicked. I think I will only trip in complete solitude now, including integration work. I can't handle others around and I get alot of anxiety with others which fucks with my awakenings. I'm curious to know if anyone else has experienced this and trips with other people or always alone.

@EntheogenTruthSeeker most are not ready for Truth. Which is why I believe Leo only teaches to those who seek Truth. Discovering Truth will not do anything for "you". Most devils only want more materialistic things which evidently they will lose. Why would he put himself out there to be critized by devils. Leo's work is readily available to those who are willing to learn. This is just my opinion

@EntheogenTruthSeeker what on earth are you talking about ? pray to Jesus? You are just talking to yourself.

Definitely going to have a listen to this. For myself, when I realized that I am reality imagining itself as a human I realized the true oneness of it all. We are an infinite collective conciousness which can become aware of itself. Radical stuff

Umm why does this stop you..