Preetom

What can we know for sure? Is there such a thing?

@Preety_India Search up the user 'samra' here on forum and plow through her posts. If I remember correctly she did multiple trip reports of Aya over a diverse span of time.

The holy grail cant talk. It dreams up a gimmick to talk about this stuff The self masturbation theory by Leo

Holy hell...does that mean David "the enlightened master" Hammond have been a big fat liar all along?

Don't mistake a gimmick for something more than it is.

i craps absolute infinity!

The only explanation is... that which wants the ''no wants" state, never reaches that 'state'

You are lost in minutae so much that you are missing the big picture. The bottom line is in order to act/feel/perceive/think any object whatsoever, you first need a subject or a point of view. Ego is another name for that subject. But both this subject and object are mere dreamed up cosmetics on God and made of nothing but the substance of God. The fungul intelligence or highly capable engineers intelligence that you mention or the stupidest thing you can imagine are all dreamed up by the same INFINITE INTELLIGENCE through the subject-object paradigm. From your human intellect, you can make a hirarchy of these things as more or less intelligent, but from the infinite intelligence the mechanism and substance of them all are same.

Oh don't pretend like you are alive on something else! Lool

Good god..did you curse him for next 10 lifetimes?

Where are you now exactly? I'm asking this cause I need to prepare meal when you arrive

Well what have you been surviving on so far? if you say bread, butter, meat, fruit, veggies etc then you are incorrect. Wake the fook up and see you've been living on memories

Nahm you sound like a parrot I wanna boil up and eat

How can one want a 'state' of no wants? Hmm...I smell something fishy

@Shin How has your enlightenment business been so far?

What if there is no experience to be had in the first place, let alone claiming it as ones own? Hmm

@Mada_ how do you focus on the observer? Can you describe this observer? Have you found it?

Or what the ego and the nature of its desires and pleasures are

@phllip103 How long do you meditate?

1 and 2 are completely antithetical to each other. (2) is a byproduct of the red pill(enlightenment). You shouldn't have added that with blue pill in the first place lol

Look at your experience. There will be no end in clever arguments. Just see what is revealed to you right now if you ask these questions. 1) Right now, am I aware of all the sight, sound, feelings, thoughts or are they aware of I? 2) do these sight, sound, feelings, thoughts have any voice or being? Do they proclaim them as the doer of actions and experiencer of life by themselves? 3) if everyone is silent, then who is aware here? Who is it that feels itself as sentient, doer of actions, chooser of circumstances? Begin the search for that 'I' with free will. You dont have to take either free will or predetermination as true on hearsay. Just look at your experience, investigate it. Dont just spawn more counter clever arguments against hearsay. The counter to a hearsay is nothing but hearsay.

A deep hate for existence and a deep yearning for self annihilation. Very common trend in those who explored all these spiritual stuff to a significant degree. Eckhart Tolle was exactly in such a condition right before his so called instantaneous enlightenment. What I'd like to offer is an exploration of your own direct everyday experience. Go have a nap now. Was there any hate for existence and a longing for self annihilation in sleep? Upon waking up, what actually changed? What hideous cancer is responsible for all this dread and mess? The solution to your problem might lie in this experiential inquiry.

I've gone through this thought experiment during self-inquiry before. It always boiled into the intuitive sense that 'I' actually never was here. All the activity of the body-mind is already rendered just like finished movie. Even this notion of a 'me' now detached and watching this automatic movements, all the search, realizations etc everything is part of the movie. What does that make the current conceptual me then? A robot. The entire life, stories and phenomena are being had. But thats not the problem. After all a computer doesn't nag and complain even if it is overused. The mother of all problem starts when this robot gets infected with a virus called sense of 'I'. Now all of a sudden, the movie characters of the finished movie start to imagine their personal power, free will, description, status and the inevitable attempt to protect their sense of self at all cost. Now all of a sudden, the robot feels itself as a personal doer. Can you imagine the level of disaster if a computer had a sense of doership along with running a program? Well I just explained all people who take themselves as an ego. Oh god what a joke...infecting a robot with a sense of self so that it can chase its own tail from time immemorial in the name of "waking up" or "going somewhere" or "doing shit"

My mandatory response to all goodbye threads. Goodbye..goodbye..ole ole ole ole

That was like the easiest guess of all lol