Christoph Werner

@TDLH Very good post! I agree with you 100%.

So psychedlics can give you this feeling of "I understand reality" or "I know the truth". And this feeling is genuine during the trip, because the distinction of tripping and not tripping is not really there. However you do come back to your baseline level of consciousness and often your ego integrates the experience and it tries to claim "I understand" and it says "I'm not really there now, but I know the way" and then the ego spawns many imaginations and what to do to get there and what prevents you from getting there. Isn't this just chasing your own tail? You already defined what is truth and what is untruth instead of admitting to yourself you do not know. So this question comes because lately I feel like I need to let go of psychedlics completely or at least for a couple years. I did about 40-50 trips mostly LSD. But also mushrooms and NN-Dmt and mdma. I did a sub-breaktrough dose of 5 MeoDMT once. It's been lying around for over a year now and I have huge respect for it. Before I quit psychedlics I will go for a breaktrough 5Meo trip as I think I can't leave this one out. This Intuition also comes because I had an awakening to love 40 days ago with my spiritual practise ( I do hatha yoga, pranayama and meditation). This love hasn't left me yet as I know consciously how to get there. I just sit down for meditation for 10-20 minutes and I'm in bliss. So is 5Meo a trap or not? Or does it depend on how you use it and your clarity of perception? If you read this Leo, thank you so much for your work. I've been following you since 2018 and I have been taking the things you say really seriously. I started meditating, journelling, hatha yoga all beacuse of you and my life is so amazing now I don't think I have to explain to you. ??

@Thought Art I've done a sub breaktrough dose. And I will do 5 MeO probably more than once. Never stated otherwise. Yes I'm also little scared and I think that's healthy as one shouldn't fuck around with 5MeO. There's no reason for me not to try it. I just want to understand why Leo thinks it is not possible without 5MeO as I think that is a limiting belief. Also I think Leo is overdoing psychedelics.

@Flyboy I agree with this. Leo thinks he has the unbeatable kind of logic. And I also agree that he is putting off this "very detailed, subtle, and brutally honest work" I don't see any reason that something would block you from having the deepest insights into the nature of existence and that you would need 5-MeO to get the deepest understanding. Also very well said. He creates this identity as a "God-realized teacher" who gets to "speak from above" to everyone. He makes himself important, because without him sharing his "most advanced" teachings to us "blind, self deceived humans", all of humanity would be lost. Like this he can basically spawn infinite insights that are "important" and "good" and need to be shared with us and that actually distracts him from the real work. And then when he actually takes 30 days off to meditate, he get's frustrated with meditation and switches to 5MeO to reinforce his identity instead of realizing that he still hasn't figured a big part of this work. Sadly Leo, sometimes you're making a joke out of yourself. To me Your health condition shows this clearly also. Mind can trick you in an infinite ways, body doesn't lie. Then thinking you can heal yourself from a psychedelic state. This clearly shows how ignorant you are of how your body works.

Good question. I think probably fear. After all 5Meo is not something to take lightly and there are dangers with it also. I already decided I will do it when I feel ready for it. I don't think I need to rush this. What makes you so sure of this?

Isha Foundation is planning to start teaching Shambavi Mahamudra online. That's definetly worth learning in my opinion. I've done about 600 hours of their hatha and kriya yoga practises this year and it has transformed me a lot. Surya Shakti and Kriya, Shakti Chalana Kriya and Shambavi. Shakti Chalana Kriya has been the most impactful for me. Leo was a huge reason why I went to Sadhgurus Ashram. Open mindedness and the conceptual understanding Leo offers were key to my time there and also a big source for motivation. I also met another volunteer there who was also very familiar with actualized. That was an instant bond.