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I'm laying here in bed in the middle of the night and wondering if this moment right here, will change after death. Or if it's never going to change structurally. With structure I mean if consciousness will also be filled again with the same illusions, like the same color spectrum, trees and flowers, humans or that feeling when you lick on ice cream. As it has been said here many times on this forum, that consciousness is not restricted to any form, it itself dreams up its restrictions. So why shouldn't it try out completely new structures to form? Like a weaker gravitational force or a completely different sensation to eating ice cream? To me this question is so intrigueing, because I like to believe consciousness will choose this actual structure right here over and over again, so our consciousness bubbles will get "recycled" when we (God) try out other bubbles of consciousness. I would love to live through Leo's life for example. His exact life. See how it its to be him. Or to be any other forum member here. Any concrete insights on this question?

@Sempiternity Of course. Eventually we all gonna know. But isn't it the point of this forum to gather truth from more conscious parts of consciousness?

That's a reoccurring problem in this forum. Most stuff has been said already precisely and unmistakable by Leo in his videos. So conceptually there is no answer I could give you which would satisfy you. Just trust the process that life will unfold it's beauty and intelligence right before your eyes if you live more in the territory rather than in the map. For me the concept (or map) or love being the ultimate reason and truth to everything transformed into the actuality (or territory) just by enormous amounts of consciousness. But consciousness is so incredibly intelligent that it hides himself from you, because discovering that territory is the most delicious thing in the universe. You know that, the universe knows that.

Its a powerful technique. Just become aware of whatever is appearing in your consciousness, and delete all mental constructs and ideas about this object. Notice how mysterious this object gets. I recommend Leo's video called "What Is Actuality?". He points towards the difference of your idea of an object versus the direct experience of the same object, which as you can discover differs a lot.

When you silence all mind activities, there are no concepts or explanations why you are here, and what you perceive. You look at your hand, but there is no hand. There are just perceptions, and awarness of perceptions. You just perceive. No labeling. If you practice this everyday, it will become natural for you to wonder about how anything can exist at all. This wondering will lead to appreaciation and love. I think thats what he meant.

Would be interesting to know if someone here in this forum actually tried datura or this mushrrom above. I imagine it to be a strong mental and physical horror trip. But who knows, maybe there are people, who have gotten some value out of them. But why take deliriants, if normal non-toxic hallucinogenics are just as abundant. Its like quenching your thirst with vodka.

Over the last year's I had mediocre results from meditating quite frequently. Maybe it's because I compare it to psychedelics. However, I really want to try the "sober" route for now. The major problem that keeps my consciousness from getting brighter is that I absolutely like thinking. Sometimes a random thought comes up and appears just as interesting as a good movie or game. I don't want to quit a movie or a game, when it's getting exciting. And every time I release that thought and focus on breathing again, I feel like I missed out on something, which could have developed my psyche. Following that thought can occupy almost my whole meditation session. So how do you guys, handle such "addictive" thoughts?

Shouldn't this mean reality would be completely random? After all it appears as if there is some kind of order to it. After all the big goal of consciousness is to evolve into absolute love/truth. For me this implies its bound to some sort of order.

Some top level inquiry there. I add another view from someone, who feels the same. Perhaps God is so absolutely unbiased that you can bend your definition of success to every degree you want. God will love this definition just as much. In the end we are all given this finite level of consciousness, so personal development won't end permanently in infinite God. Duality will be established again. So why think about the pleasure of playing piano in comparison to infinite truth and love. God wants you to make judgements and set preference in order for it to feel this duality.

Keep this spirit up. Dark times will come again. And thats fine. Make some commitments now, before your ego eats out of you again. Personal development is like the stock market, with many "irrational" ups and downs, but somehow it has always grown.

@allislove @Swarnim 30 minutes in the morning and 30 minutes before sleeping. Although the evening sitting turns into sleeping quite frequently. I had some better results with eyes open and looking at my hand, because my thoughts are very visual. Probably has something to do with the constant visual media consumption. Dropping expectations is a big one. After reading about and listening to God consciousness reports and enlightment stories the spiritual ego wants to make this enlightment stuff it's bitch. Hard to get around that.

Actually most people use this forum to challenge him here.

@flowboy Thats interesting. I mean the part of no ejaculating while still having an orgasm. Did this happen to you by accident, or was there a specific technique involved?

Leo also talked about how you could even get a psychedelic indused tinnitus. I have this condition since about 6 years, and my tinnitus even decreased since im meditating/doing psychedelics. However this "visual tinnitus" or visual snow increased with the trips. Interestingly during the trips its totally gone. Only after a few days it comes up again. Sometimes annoyingly bad, but sometimes just subtle.

Even the most atheistic people, (like I was) can have a God realization. Actually the belief in some sort of a God, would even delay the realization to a point. Of course depending how conscious you are.

Its normal to be confused when you grow in all directions. Deep spiritual work will transcend your need to be succesful on the financial level or with women. However if you still feel this desire to accumulate wealth and have a lot of sex, dont fight it. Go conscious into these desires and watch how they transform naturally over time. I can just talk for myself, but I notice that once you really have the inner growth going (spirituality)y your outer goal (sex, money, fame ect.) is a natural byproduct. But only if your spiritual work is your number ONE goal in life - not the other way around. So if you can't feel this to be the case, follow your outer goals, without psychedelics. However, keep yourself on a conscious level. Meditation is probably the way to go. You can't forcefully climb up the spiral (Spiral Dynamics) you rather elevate up naturally over time.

I even see the climate change as a necessary part of the "evolution of the universe", with its ultimate goal to make itself more consciouss towards itself. And the number one tool to make someone more consciouss is to make him suffer from his unconsciousness. The universe is a pretty "big brain" thing.

Shouldn't the ability to be lucid during sleep dreams increase your chances of awakening in this sober dream right now? After all, in both cases its just increased consciousness leading to this realization. Any opinions?

@Brandon Nankivell I get what you mean. It's so short-lived that you can't really crasp what was going on. But trust me after you had you're first real awakening, which you can't conflate with something else, you notice the same consciousness state again. What's fascinating about the nitrous experience is, that you can see directly how consciousness is build in a way, that after recognizing itself it will directly forget it self in order for this dream state to work. This "recognizing-forgetting" principle is a main theme in consciousness. Without that, consciousness would just be half as fascinating for itself.

@OneIntoOne If you're really serious about this work, don't be satisfied with weed. It has so many side-effects and makes you lazy after all. And even if you had a spiritual breakthrough with weed, you would never know what substances in the weed was responsible for that. Progress will be very hard with that. Meditate a lot. And if you feel mentally mature enough, try some clean perfectly dosed psychedelic, with ideal set and setting. After that you can evaluate better how weed made you any more conscious or not.

If you're really serious about this work, don't be satisfied with weed. It has so many side-effects and makes you lazy after all. And even if you had a spiritual breakthrough with weed, you would never know what substances in the weed was responsible for that. Progress will be very hard with that.

The big picture issue with weed is that it activates so many neurotransmitters on so many levels, that its a rightly called a "dirty drug". I once heard it has over 20 difference messenger substances, which makes it a terrible tool for self-inquiry and meditation. After all real psychedelics are so useful for spiritual work, because they open op your mind through breaking "filter mechanism" in the psyche. Weed would just clutter these filter mechanism together, which leaves you anxious and confused. Studies are also very foggy about the neurological benefits of weed.

Yeah, i have to correct my evaluation about n2o. Here in Germany and Austria its totally legal and there are even bars, who offer you nitrous for the whole evening. But the neurological damage is too serious as to just be ignorant about it. But in the end, i think most people, who get to take psychedelics correctly are so conscious and aware of dangers, that they will naturally want to inform themselves about new substances enough. I just had never any issues with taking it two or three times a year. Thats why this post is here.

That sounds cool. Although, complete lucidity seems to be necessary for you to even think about yoga while dreaming. Can you dream lucid on a regular basis?