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Would the best description of that void be pure formlessness? If so, I have had an experience like that. When I got that I suspected myself of DID. As far as I remember, no pain came with it. Just shock.

I remember talking to a guy on the spirituality sub-reddit and it went completely over his head how there could be no experiencer, at all. Using his logic and experience, he determined yes he wasn't his personality etc. but their was indeed a witness and it's logically impossible there couldn't be a witness. He concluded he had transcended selfhood, and all that stuff, because he saw he wasn't his body and mind. This was half a year ago I believe, however this really put into perspective for me how most of the people who are into spirituality are not very deep in their path. Not that I fancy myself anywhere deep, I just find it weird that even this 'simple' ego-death isn't of common experience in the spiritual community. So I made this video. Might help someone. This might or might not be adding to the forum. Like most here, I am also very picky as to what I wanna self promote, I do not want to promote anything that doesn't actually provide value to the forum, so please let me know.

@Shambhu I see, from witness what I mean is the deepest layer of the false self, devoid of both the body and the mind. Which can, if focused on itself, regress enough to peel off the last layer and suddenly is left with nothing. Logically it sounds absurd but experientially it's the truth. In what I am trying to describe, even 'that' is part of the experience. You can't say "There is something that is aware or knows" because even 'that' just is. I think though we mean the same thing since you said it's pure consciousness, which is what I am pointing towards too. @Thought Art This is probably beyond what I am talking about in the video. As I said in the video, even if you go beyond that witness, it's not guaranteed you'll experience some sort of oneness or anything, let alone God. By witness I just mean what's left when you completely disidentify with both the body(including of internal and external bodily feelings, behaviors and emotions) and the mind(which includes, all levels of thinking, personality, memories, meness, etc.).

Depends, sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. It depends on what's your latest realization about yourself and the world. I would say to grow enough that you are not a hindrance to your own self. Then going for the success as it seems of priority to you right now. I mean you can do them both at the same time. See it's all about what calls you. It's all a very intuitive process, at least for me. Sometimes you wanna ease up on the spirituality, sometimes in the practicality. Point is that you know what you want in both domains.

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You're still young af. Life might be over if you came to your senses when you were 70 but you are only 24, you have all the time in the world to figure life out, that said, don't go about it too slowly. If you play your cards right then you can still self actualize and become financially independent.

In my vocab I call ego the very essence of feeling like a self, an experiencer. The accumulations of survival patterns etc. is what I call the personality.

Positive beings seek to unite, negative beings seek to divide. Without division their would be no life, there would be no you trying to unify. God was Satan when it divided the unified reality into infinite fragments. Negative beings are to be thanked, they maybe clueless as to what they are doing, but their role is so so important. Negative beings promote life and creation itself. Positive beings want to unify/love everything, which is synonymous to dissolution and destruction. What's fucked up is that just switch your angle and you'll see unification and love also is creation and life at the same time, and that negative beings also promote destruction and dissolution. It's all the same, NOT if you want to embrace division. This is why I love negative beings. (And also because I have never encountered one ?, if I do, this logic will be challenged, but I will try to solidify it through direct experience)

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The incapability to function happens because your vessel hasn't grown enough to be able to handle it yet. It's like trying to do pushups with overly developed arm and chest muscles but no abs and leg muscles. You won't be able to do pushups even though you feel you can do more. Doing which btw is crucial to develop your chest and arm muscles further. So my advice would be to access those deep states of oneness and try to function the best you can. In these states even deciding to do something like wanting to function is impossible so you'll need to figure out how to let your body and mind move themselves without 'you' controlling them. This feels like driving a car but letting go of the steering wheel completely. (Which feels exactly how you imagine it to be. A fear of death takes you over because you're not in control.)

https://youtu.be/seaJcY0kXjk watch this

I see people posting about how heart has neurons and it connects with the brain etc. And is sort of a second brain. But many people get heart transplants, do their personality change? I searched it up and yeah people report so. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31739081/ What will happen then when a synthetic heart gets transplanted into someone? Also, why then is a heart easier to transplant than the brain? Probably because the brain holds most of the personal 'mind' such as personalities and memories and many of the survival functions which make it complex to transplant. But I don't actually think the spirit/person itself is held by the brain. I think the body channels the spirit. So now a very good question arises. What will happen if we switch the brains of two people? Will they switch bodies or each person will still be channeled into that body but with different memories and personalities? If you are one of those patients, will your direct experience suddenly switch to their body or will all of your memories and personality and stuff be replaced, but you'll still being channeled in your own body? I think the problem is that I am identifying with the memories and personality here. There is no constant self between the people. You can argue that the person will switch bodies because the whole mush of personalities and memories is now responding through the second body. But if you were never even those things in the first place, then that means the spirit is still where it were. And if you identity with the spirit, then you never actually switched bodies. It's a matter of what you identify with. What do you guys think?

@Nahm Wdym, can you elaborate?

I had been having a pretty overwhelming few weeks of not being able to follow my schedule, follow my promises both to myself and others until it got to the tipping point. I told my online friend who I had been working on a project with and we agreed to cut contact for 2 weeks, so that I can have room to figure stuff out regarding schedules and procrastination. That same day I got sick with a cold that lasted 4 days, it taught me a lot about gratitude... I gave up on all my duties and rested. During this period I had my shift. I listed down all my distractions and eliminated them one by one. A major time waster in this was YouTube shorts. So I checked all the shorts for |Not Interested | until YouTube stopped recommending me shorts. Now I have even stopped using the app unnecessarily. I am mostly on my desktop, and have downloaded an extension called DF YouTube. Using which I can hide the comments and suggested videos. I can also hide all the videos YouTube recommends on the home page + trending tab. This has freed up way more time than I expected. I always took pride in the fact that I didn't use much social media except YT, which I thought of as different , especially because I chose my content. I was wrong... YouTube was only simpler and harder to get addicted to until a couple years back. With the addition of YouTube Shorts, movement of comment section upwards below the video player, removal of the counter on the dislike button, etc. are all attempts by YouTube to get you addicted. YouTube Shorts used to pause when you opened the comment section but they removed even that. The short keeps playing when you read a comment, which I think is also a big part in reducing your attention span and getting you addicted. Now, YouTube is just like any other social media and I should be careful with it. Please do not demonize YT however, I am just stating my observations. Now that I am only consuming things that I want (for eg. Spiritual videos, Stanford and MIT Lectures, good music, meaningful documentaries), without any distractions, I feel much happier. I do not feel a constant compulsion to go for the next dopamine hit anymore and my days feel slower. One crucial lesson I have learned is that there should not be a constant influx of random information which may or may not be of use. Examples: 5 tricks that might save your life one day; Watch how this man jumps 12 feet; Memes; Biased and too much Negative News as opposed to General Knowledge News; etc. What there should be is an influx of consciously curated information and practice about select fields that the individual wants to learn about. This will feel slower but is in fact the fastest way to learn tons of things properly. Taking in of only tid-bits of information from many different fields constantly will make you confused and waste your time. I feel content most of the day with a clear mind now. I finally feel that I have reached the normal level of what a human should feel. (Maybe not truly due to toxins and pollution, etc. but keeping all that aside.) I have started to dance and listen to music almost everyday and love my sleep. Reason for me making this post is that I want to concretize this new shift in my mind by sharing it with other people. Because I can't share this with the people I know in real life (since they wouldn't be interested). Unlike an increase in the outer reaches of my spiritual understanding of life, this is a shift in my baseline.

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the circle of life

I've read that people who are about to die of bodily problems or of natural aging often intuit they are about to die. For some it's hours prior, for some it's days, for some conscious motherfucker it might be some weeks prior and maybe for some yogi it might be years prior, even predicting the date and time. What I am pointing out is that he may have gotten this intuitive feeling and he must have started contemplating into death. That could have lead into various traps, such as believing in dogma to console himself, which is most likely what happened. But you shouldn't throw the possibility of him having had an awakening out the window. I'd say instead of worrying about any awkwardness or needing to chit-chat, go be with him. Be as conscious as you can yourself and respect his boundaries as he is also an entity. Just be with him. Whether he awoke or not wouldn't be of main concern. He might start talking with you, maybe when you're alone with him, about deeper things. He may not talk to you at all. But you should be able to get an idea of how conscious he has become. But as I said, assessing all that isn't of main concerning. No matter who he was in his life, no matter what he did or what you think he deserves, he is reaching a fate that everyone reaches one day. In Hindu stories, even monsters who have been slain are respected by the deities because they are now dead. You're witnessing death, you should be curious about it and shower your grandfather with love.

What if when we revive such people after hundreds of years and they report amazing travels through the astral planes or something like that. I wouldn't be alive to see this but a man can dream lol. Might be a push to become a Yellow civilization if that ever happens.

My intuition would says your body is just fixing itself because it had some fucked up problems before, therefore it's manifesting so intensely. If you body was already great before then it may be something else.

Never thought that Motu would be into spirituality

Imagine if the waking consciousness is the surface of the ocean. The dreams you experience within sleep are submerged deep in that ocean. This ocean is your mind-body-spirit complex comprising of everything that 'you' are. When I focus on that which is infinite, god, love, beauty, being, non-being, mystery, etcetera, I become aware of this 'thing' deep, really really deep within that ocean, which starts to come up a tiny bit. Let's think of it as a giant sea monster(Because that feeling is HUGE and way too deep). It's name is deep surrender. If it comes up to the surface, not only I'll cease to be, but so will reality as I know it. It scares 'ME', a boat afloat the ocean. The boat is afraid that the sea monster will arise from the depths and swallow it in one gulp. I am scared of that sea monster. I know it's deep surrender, but I do not wish to be eaten. If the sea monster eats me, everything in the ocean will dissolve into one homogenous substance. There would be no surface, no above waters, no under waters. It will become an infinite ocean with no surface, unlike oceans on earth. The sea monster eating me, will manifest as me crying intensely without shame. I'll cry harder than I ever cried as a baby. Maybe the feeling would be so deep, that I won't even be able to shed a tear. That's what my intuition, a sage, relatively closer to me compared to the sea monster, but still deep in the ocean, tells me. I don't want to die, I don't want to get eaten. But that same sage tells me that the sea monster I fear, isn't a monster, but an angel trapped deep within the ocean, which wants me to loosen up my guard so that it can come up to the surface, and help me become whole. But I can't, I don't know how to. I don't know where you are, massive angel, I can only feel your presence, threatening the very existence of reality itself. Please, help me angel.

@knakoo Can you a provide a link to this map?

Secluded Himalayan yogis is what I imagine stage coral to be like. Many native people are scared to get close to such yogis as well because of stuff like "They might curse me for disturbing them". But the fear mostly comes from fearing aggression from the yogi. But I think that's just because it's very unknown for the people. So they might as well think of the the yogi as bigfoot.

What is paradoxical is that if you had as much will as God then you'd already be God. There can't be two gods after all. But when you are in such a level of unconditional love. You'd be paralyzed because there would be no reason to do anything about anything. Reason only arises because it's separate from you. In such oneness, no action can be done because action is separate. God isn't exclusively creating your neighborhood, it's completely inclusive and in a weird sense there is nothing else to be created. To be able to do what you're saying you need to have incredible will, yes. But not as much as God. For if you had infinite will, you won't be able to do anything. (LOL)