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@Leo Gura "You take a dumb animal like a donkey, and you think why did God create this dumb animal, but you look at it from a higher perspective and you realize that yes the donkey is dumb compared to lets say a human but it's serving it's function perfectly, and even those dumb human beings who are dumb relative to more intelligent human beings, they are serving their function perfectly in the whole." Did you write Shrek, Leo?

"The village has disappeared in the evening mist, and the path is hard to follow. Walking through the pines, I return to my lonely hut." The quote at the end of Leo's Hero's Journey video. There are no enlightened masters. There are no gurus. They are your monsters. They are devils. Love them equally. The holy grail is a McDonald's cup thrown out on the side of a road. From the gospel of Thomas "His disciples said to him, "When will the kingdom come?" Jesus said, "It will not come by waiting for it. It will not be a matter of saying 'here it is' or 'there it is.' Rather, the kingdom of the father is spread out upon the earth, and men do not see it."

This is the place he explores chaos magic. But he titles it "Sacred Space" and wants it keep it an orderly journal!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Oh it took me a while, but I got the joke eventually.

@Preetom SHIT! I'm still just starting the video. Entertaining myself on the forum way too much this morning. I'll go watch now. I don't know if you read the thread where I said I fucked off from taking AP English in highschool because I wouldn't spent my summer doing the reading. Well later as an adult I made myself read Moby Dick all the way through to prove something to myself. It's fucking AMAZING. It's about enlightenment. Go watch Lana Del Rey. Enjoy her. She makes herself so sad so that you can be happy.

@Preetom JESUS IS NOT EXOTIC!!! Good Lord, dude, he's our Good Lord. Have you ever bought a drink at McDonald's and you pay for it and they hand you an empty cup and you're like ,"what the actual fuck?" Then you realize that it's self serve, you have to get your own drink yourself, the soda was there all along, but you needed the cup from them in order to drink it. All this spiritual work we do, it's complete bullshit. But if you aren't thirsty you won't be willing to pay for an empty cup. Or listen to a three hour long video on understanding duality.

@Preetom Which masturbation theory are we talking about? The one that says there is no duality between sex and masturbation? Because that's the most recent one he talked about which sticks in my mind. You think Lana Del Rey is hot but you don't want to admit it. Men have been taught not to lose themselves in the Siren's songs. Go spend your life as a miserable grumpy old sailor, hunting your white whale, Captain Ahab.

@Preetom No. Jesus said, "There are many around the drinking trough, but there is nothing in the cistern."

What about parfaits? Everyone likes parfaits.

@zeroISinfinity I love you too!

@Preetom That's ironic coming from you, when you are the one who found me out. You're good at seeing gimmicks aren't you? Don't mistake the holy grail for a gimmick.

Have you ever really literally been lost in the woods Leo?

Nope. He actually WAS enlightened all along. The cat is both dead and alive at the same time. You can't know for sure, but you can assume you know, you treat the cat accordingly. The hero and mentor shun the village as below them, but the village is actually enlightened. @zeroISinfinity Yes! @FoxFoxFox http://www.spiritanimal.info/fox-spirit-animal/

The cat is both alive/enlightened and dead/unconscious at the same time.

Too bad, I like a good knight in shining armor.

Unconditional love. First you have to do what Leo said though and realize you're a devil.

It just means those people have a lesson for them that they aren't ready to learn. Spiral dynamics is a spiral, not a hierarchy. There's no looking down on anyone, only integration.

Being called a devil is a compliment around here.

@Etherial Cat It doesn't sound non dual but the ego is the "chooser" so it says Notre Dame is sacred but McDonald's is not. So it's more true to say that either both are sacred, or both are not. Does that make sense? Of course they are both sacred and not sacred at the same time but the problem arises when we say one is and one is not.

@Nahm Because they don't feel loved.

@Nahm There's nothing more horrifying than Ronald McDonald.

@Nahm I'm a few french fries short of a Happy Meal. I guess french fries aren't really good for you anyway.

@Etherial Cat She knows exactly what she is doing. Marilyn Monroe is even a theme in her work. She's a brilliant artist. We can't pick and chose what is spiritual and what isn't with non-duality. Either everything is sacred or nothing is.

@Nahm

Everything is only what is is for you the perceiver, in this moment. It's never fixed. There are no rules, no absolute truths. The way you feel about someone or something all depends on what it does for you. Logic is an attempt to disassociate with feeling. It's the illusion that you have the power to tell it the way it is for everyone across the board. That requires a fundamental misunderstanding of one's self.

I live in stage blue rural America. There are some stage green people who live here to escape stage orange, it's easier for them to get along with stage blue than stage orange, especially since they know they are doing good here . Those are the people who were my best teachers and mentors growing up. But they offend most of the stage blue people. They could even learn how to transcend stage green from stage blue but they don't see the opportunity because they believe they are superior. You have to be a chameleon. Watch people and really know in which ways they are open. Then you'll know just the right buttons to push and how hard to push them.