mandyjw

I get sensations in the center of my forehead a lot. It feels like space and sometimes when I'm outside if the breeze is blowing it feels like a part of my head doesn't exist anymore. I'm a for real airhead. It started happening after an awakening. I didn't believe in chakras at the time but experience tells me there is some deep ancient knowledge there. Of course knowledge is only good for letting go of, but you can't let go of something if you don't have it to begin with can you?

Why do women always get blamed for everything? Osho was stuck on himself, he just used her intelligence and ability to magnify the state of his own heart. It was as if he got perpetually stuck in an immature state of awakening, one in which he completely capitalized on his own magnetism. The problem was that it was his personal magnetism, the problem started when he accepted worship as himself as another. Osho's community thought they were more enlightened than the conservative Christian residents of the town they took over, they had the problem of belief in an other, did not believe that they should "turn the other cheek" and they magnified the problem until the entire thing imploded. A community that believed in oneness, only within a carefully constructed community, centered around a specific man. What a joke.

That happened to me when I awakened. @tsuki Is it correct to say that Christianity was my path, even if that's half the truth? And that Jesus is the tantric approach?

@Truth Addict Thanks for the encouragement, I'll try to make them more on a schedule. Watching the Osho documentary. Oh the parallels, the parallels.

Yet another Thomas? He said that spiritual people (as opposed to religious) don't want be under an authority and they want more participatory kinds of teaching. Actualized.org is interesting because we have the lectures, and here on the forum is the participatory piece. I've always wondered why churches set themselves up for failure. The Pastor depends on the church for his monetary survival, and can never question his faith, therefore can never go deep with it. And the church goers are not encouraged to question their Pastor.

@Leo Gura and @winterknight 's perspectives are both correct. No one is full of shit, or we all are. Natural awakening or psychedelic induced if you're talking about it as something that happened in the past, it's an experience, a thought and a memory. I am you, you are I. We created psychedelics to awaken, just like we created each other and a lot of other things whether the illusory I took them or not makes absolutely no difference.

you and me here and there past and future

How much value did they have when you took them after?

Podcasts are the new hot thing. But that may be so six months ago by now, I'm not sure.

That's interesting. I make glass beads for a living, and so I have spent thousands of hours focusing on a flame and molten glass, for the purpose of fun and making money, so who knows how much spiritual growth I've gotten out of it, except that I did notice way back before diving deep into spirituality that I wasn't actually making the beads myself. I've always been really drawn to fire though. There are so many things that came together to make me as awake as I am, that there is nothing or no one that I can point to. Methods dissolve into this beautiful sort of understanding that life is happening for you, as you are life and time never existed so of course everything "unfolds" perfectly, how could it be otherwise? I had a pretty amazing/disruptive awakening recently and I'm still trying to let go of the experiences, which are now memories and false standards of being in my mind. To me at least right now, I'm trying to er more towards living a mundane life than trying to have paranormal experiences. We're all just out for clarity, right? Sometimes clarity is a clear message and sometimes it's a blank still mind.

The only thing I'm trying to say is that there are no inner or outer gurus, we are one consciousness. I will take all the help I can get from anyone or anything anywhere. My "inner guru" if I have one is discernment about whether or not a sign or statement or person has something to teach me. But generally it doesn't show up strongly in my awareness if it doesn't, and if I have a negative reaction, that's a another lesson in itself. What I would describe as an inner guru is more of a gut feeling or sensation kind of system than something that speaks in language though. I have an inner voice too, but it's tricky because my own ego can confuse play an imposter role to anything that speaks words.

@tsuki Stop creating my reality. It's MY reality.

There you go, dashing my dreams of becoming the next Osho.

You can't be awake and also appreciate how awake you are, you silly. I've fallen into that trap a few times and will again I'm sure. You can only see you Are in everyone.

The English language is such a joke. whole and hole.

@tsuki The magic of religion is that it evolves and transforms itself to be whatever a person wants, needs or desires. You see the Bible as a mirror. Truly, God meets people on all levels. Jesus's death tore the curtains in the temple, allowing the path of God to open to everyone. My path to truth in this life started as a little girl, given the Bible and told it was true with minimal guidance. It has to be for all and everyone, or we are not one.

@tsuki Mostly in that they heavily practiced spiritual elitism. People were not good enough for the word of God, it was too sacred to be read and understood by the masses. And BTW lots of people were murdered. I'm starting to understand some of their logic for keeping secrets. Damn this open-mindedness. But the time for secrets has passed.

The backlash. Magic is a distraction. Unless magic is done with full understanding of non-doership it is a distraction, potentially a very dangerous one. When magic is done with non-doership it is just the will of God, a miracle, creation or nothing at all really. Magic is perhaps the most difficult thing to "do" from the pure place of non-doership. It often requires a helpful entity and the one calling upon powers outside oneself. There can be no discernment between magic and not magic without self or doership involved. This is perhaps why the Catholic church has been one of the most destructive religious organizations in history.

@tsuki You can imagine why I get a little triggered when people who say that are nondualists worship Buddha and don't appreciate Jesus. They both have their own magic. Buddha gave us a blank and clear path which cut out a lot of confusion and misunderstanding, Jesus was all the way down the rabbit hole and unfortunately the misunderstandings had severe consequences. He said he came to start a fire, so it was all perfect. I don't even begin to understand everything about Jesus. Have you tried to make sense of the gospel of Judas yet? I would be really interested and also afraid to hear your interpretation of it. Those quotes really helped me connect the dots with Catholicism. Protestants see all the rituals that Catholics partake in as distraction. They are both correct of course. I'm doing ok with 1000 again, so far but I'm noticing that a lot of things are bringing up ego backlash. I'm feel like I'm able to recognize and see through it more quickly though. I have a strong tendency to run off like a scared little bunny and hide lately. I want someone to reassure me and take care of me. But that's just a facade, an act and I'm like the bunny from Monty Python if I'm a bunny at all, and I'm only scared of myself.

I can really relate to this lately. I feel like I'm expected to use words to interact but it seems like it's asking for trouble. I want to connect with people in a deeper way but not saying anything feels selfish sometimes. Words are an art medium I guess. There's nothing more scary than staring at a blank canvas, knowing that you're supposed to use it to express yourself but at the same time knowing that nothing you do can improve it's blank state.

It's true as long as you fully realize your outer teachers and signs are all your "inner" guru. "A fellow was stuck on his rooftop in a flood. He was praying to God for help. Soon a man in a rowboat came by and the fellow shouted to the man on the roof, "Jump in, I can save you." The stranded fellow shouted back, "No, it's OK, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me." So the rowboat went on. Then a motorboat came by. "The fellow in the motorboat shouted, "Jump in, I can save you." To this the stranded man said, "No thanks, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith." So the motorboat went on. Then a helicopter came by and the pilot shouted down, "Grab this rope and I will lift you to safety." To this the stranded man again replied, "No thanks, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith." So the helicopter reluctantly flew away. Soon the water rose above the rooftop and the man drowned. He went to Heaven. He finally got his chance to discuss this whole situation with God, at which point he exclaimed, "I had faith in you but you didn't save me, you let me drown. I don't understand why!" To this God replied, "I sent you a rowboat and a motorboat and a helicopter, what more did you expect?""

Your thoughts create your reality. As we become more conscious we start to notice synchronicity, it's like in Leo's most recent video he said that it's like seeing a glitch in the system. You're becoming more conscious and the brave big move you just made likely has opened you up to it more.

@kieranperez If your faith is strong you can move mountains, you could also make them into sacred places too if you wanted. Stop getting so distracted what's true for others and find what's true for you. It's all true/false anyway.

"I really have a need for clarity Jackal, could you just tell me what your needs are that aren't getting met without telling me that I'm an idiot?" I think that that kind of intuition just comes from the space true love/awareness. Plus having so much experience with people and having high emotional intelligence doesn't hurt either.

You're driving the car but Henry Ford invented it, several other people assembled it, and all the tax payers paid for the roads you're driving it on. It takes a lot of things coming together just right to make any thing happen at all. This is why you can never be (can be) enlightened.