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@Emerald Maybe in a club, if she comes home with the guy I could see that possibility. But imagine if a guy meets a girl at a bus stop, and has a casual conversation for some time, and he casually asks her if she'd want to go out. That is also pickup, and I'm sure there are women who aren't really crazy at all who'd be receptive to that. I think there are many versions of pickup. Not all is club-oriented. I think to say one has to be a little crazy to be receptive to it is just not true honestly. Much of mating is just a natural form of pickup. Guys pursue girls, and girls want to be approached. I think its completely normal. Pickup doesn't have to be this elaborate hardcore strategic thing, or just some club game or whatever.

@Emerald Yes, I see that possibility as well. But I'm not sure. I'm sure there are many normal women also who can be seduced by game. Every now and then when I think about all this though, I keep thinking: Everyone is different. There are so many nuances, circumstances. Every person is so unqiue in their own way. I get the value of these generalizations, but often I feel they are too limiting.

@Natasha Tori Maru Yeah, it's not just you. I also get reactive initially as well like that. Literally I do the exact same lol .. I was contemplating this one post for a day. I think also over the years, we get more comfortable with truth though. Regarding the black and white thinking though, I think thats a bit trickier. A lot of times for example, I perceive Leo's posts as black and white. But I think about it some more, and realize, how else can we talk about certain truths within reality? Often generalizations need to be made, but I guess we need to always keep in the back of our mind that it's not absolute, there are always naunces, etc.

@Emerald I sense also the possibility that Leo lives in Vegas that this could be the case. I've never been to Vegas, but it's possible that Vegas draws in a certain type of crowd, both men and women to a large degree. I don't know. But I'm sure for example there are normal girls in Charleston, South Carolina for example lol

@Natasha Tori Maru I don't think he said "in general" lol .. at least I read it a few times and didn't see that explicitly or implicitly said. But regardless, I don't think all feminine women are like that. In general sounds about right. We can look at trends in reality, but reality is full of all kinds of uniqueness, and I don't think models of reality or trends can fully accurately look at the full truth of reality. I think everyone on this forum has had their moments of wanting to get the red stilettos out on Leo lol .. hardcore truth posts can be tough to read for all of us, and it can trigger fears in us of all kinds.

@Leo Gura I've been thinking about what you said here since yesterday .. So are you saying that all young, hot women are emotional messes to some degree? Are there no chill, honest, conscious women who are young, hot and feminine as well? I ask because I hope to get married some day to a woman who is all that - a) young, hot, and feminine but also chill, not crazy, honest and into personal growth. What I'm asking really is that is what you're saying the overall trend, or does this apply to all women? Like is your intent with this post to connect this to how reality works, or is it some kind of absolute statement that all young, hot, feminine women are ungrounded, emotional messes? Can a woman not be feminine and care for truth? Also I think I sense a limit in what you're saying .. You say: "Your family's survival is not truth nor ground, it's Maya." Emerald was talking for ex. about a mother being grounded for a child, and you said that's a poor example. But why is that a poor example? Aren't you yourself not just talking about god and truth, but also just their day-to-day character, emotional state, etc. when you talk about them being an emotional mess? I don't think most mothers are an emotional mess when dealing with their child. Also when reflecting back, yes I have dealt with a lot of emotionally messy, feminine women. But also I can think of feminine women who are also emotionally grounded as well. Also what about Emma Watson for example, she seems truth-oriented to some degree, not delusional or crazy, and young, hot and feminine? I think she is also some UN ambassador, and fights for feminism and equality.

@Leo Gura even with a few drinks? I used to go out a lot in the past and whenever Id drink I wouldnt see that free-flowing spirit transfer over sober out, maybe it did not entirely sure, but for the most part it doesn't from my experience.

@Miguel1 Yeah good point. And you can even replace sex with anything else, and the post still holds well. But also after reading his post and something else he said later on the forum, my main insight is that there's falseness all around, but is the core motivator built on truth?

@Leo Gura Isn't much of life based on "falseness" though? various friendships, personality traits, etc.? Isn't a lot of that survival + conditioning + society, etc. (mostly survival)? I'm curious why you isolated sex though, because from my understanding, you, me, almost everyone has a good amount of that falseness baked into any life they build, any infrastructure they build, any business, relationship, various activities they do, etc.? Isn't it even partly delusional to expect some aspect of life you build as part of your life, to be falseness-free? To expect something to be falseness-free sounds fantastical in the first place?

https://www.nbcnews.com/world/middle-east/live-blog/israel-iran-conflict-rcna214241 Apparently US just attacked Iran. I was recently listening to professor mearsheimer that this would be very bad for US? I hope this wouldn't be like the war after 9/11 .. and I hope Iran doesn't attack USA like it is successfully attacking Israel. I do believe Iran has a right to defend itself. It's unfair from my limited perspective of politics what is happening to them, but as a US citizen I hope we are safe. I really don't want to cause fear mongering but a light question .. this isn't turning into a more global conflict is it? like WW3 or something?

These 2 are a couple: shes pretty damn gorgeous, she seems pretty normal in the head, grounded, even caring and stuff. This guy is pretty disabled, but in some ways lacking in masculinity, but in some ways in a sense I can see healthy masculinity. Now this guy seems nice, but how is she attracted to him? I'm wondering if she's genuinely physically attracted to him. She seems emotionally attracted to him, but I don't know if this is some kind of psychology problems or mental disfunctions she has or whatever. The reason I ask is not to judge. But as a guy I want to have a deeper understanding of female psychology, what makes them tick, what do they desire. What does she seem in him. She probably saw something amazing in him to have to deal with so much baggage that as a pretty attractive female she probably doesn't have to. But then also I wonder why a lot of famous male celebrities who can get really gorgeous girls settle for unattractive girls, like Ryan Gosling and Eva Mendes. Something I wonder a lot is .. why does someone choose another person really. Of all the options someone can have, who has options, what is worth going for, and why do people go after who they go after. What are core attraction traits. But I still don't understand this couple. I mean she's far more attractive than Eva Mendes for example, why not choose a partner that is far better suited for herself? For most people, is love just - something in the stars align and you can't logically explain it but that person clicks in a way that no one else had, throw logic out the window, throw out what traits you desire out the window, and marry that person?

@Leo Gura These books are quite fascinating though. I've always wanted to go in this direction after listening to "introduction" episodes on Joe Rogan and stuff, but never knew where to look in the vast sea of books.

@Leo Gura Much appreciated Leo. I second the notion where someone suggested to just leave the book links if the reviews aren't ready. I am curious though, why such a push to read books so deep in corruption? Wouldn't that have an inevitable effect of negatively conditioning the mind, black-pilling as you say, such that it would take away from Truth, even though it leads to a greater understanding of reality? I notice you're careful not to expose too much corruption at once, and sort of dribble it on us bit by bit lol which is appreciated, if that's what you actually do, but I'm curious why there's such a big importance on studying corruption so deeply? 56 books with corruption being a big theme is wild. Or actually is it the case that there's a higher level understanding from these books - political understanding given the state of things - and that corruption is a necessary part of the path to understanding global politics? Just curious about your overall intention with this update.

@Schizophonia I actually find it mind-boggling that someone can find ryan gosling unattractive lol .. blade runner 2049?

@Sugarcoat yeah but the face botox stuff? Idk also Ive always seen this guy as the hero in all these movies, ripped and stuff, and bro he had rachel mcadams .. every guy is in love with her lol

@Sugarcoat yeah she is pretty for sure .. But maybe it really is the case that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

@Schizophonia she doesn't seem to be faking it or doing it for money, but yeah I think its possible that its some savior thing too

@Sugarcoat yeah she was much prettier in her 20s, but Gosling I believe married her when she was in her late 40s. Logically in my head nothing about that makes sense. He could have easily married someone in her 20s or 30s. And tbh I just think he could have done a lot better. Maybe its just not possible to logically understand an individual person's psychology because some things transcend logic. @Schizophonia thats honestly a deep point here

@Leo Gura I can confirm. I have a friend who is christian. He is a normal dude, but things like all this "pride" stuff everywhere threatens him lol .. so he goes deeper in right .. becomes a fan of trump .. trump further plays on that narrative but also comes with toxic masculinity .. then friend becomes more blatantly racist .. I think its a few triggers that make people go down this rabbit hole .. its quite sad to see. I'm afraid to even say something to him.

@Leo Gura I mean I've been semi-royally fucked by Amazon. They shut my 6-figure business down overnight because their "system" prioritized the end customer over my business. I had a negative perception of amazon for a while, but at the end of the day I still think capitalism overall does far more good than bad. Even if I was truly royally fucked by some corporate jackel, I'd just be talking from hurt, when my truth radar suggests capitalism does far more good than bad. Covid was stopped by capitalism and AI from my understanding with breakthroughs in the vaccine. The nuclear bomb invented in USA was like a startup that defeated Germany. Even when I look all around me, I see a social reality with the cream of the crop products around me, products that won competition to create the reality all of us live. I'd be happy to be shown otherwise that ruthless capitalism doesn't do more good than bad. I also don't like thinking that it does more good than bad. But from my current understanding, that is what I see. The very definition of capitalism is centered around the good of humanity. But I think it works like this: All the top corporate structures have a stakeholder priority system and strategy aimed at maximum profit, that usually puts the end customer first. The last stakeholder gets fucked the most (which is why we have a lot of environmentalism issues), etc. But its like that ethics discussion: Are you willing to sacrifice one person in the dungeon to power a city of 100 people? It's a very tough question I've tried to solve but I could never quite. Corporations and government sacrifice that 1 person for the 100 people. I partly see that as the "greater good" or even aligned with truth because they are not letting that 1 person bias whats best for society. But also that harming of the 1 person is corrupt as well. I guess my overall take is that corporate entities and government is overall good for society. But the individual people running it are often evil. But even these people as a whole do evil that leads to good for society, because goodness for society is aligned with their evil interests with some exceptions.

@Leo Gura I know google, open ai, etc. are corrupt in so many ways .. but how do I make sense of some of this stuff .. a) theres actually so much good done in society. I believe the only reason most of us on this forum are alive right now and happy is because of such capitalism. I found you on YouTube, owned by google. I'm typing on a macbook made by apple, who do corrupt things in 3rd world countries, yet the macbook did a ton of good also. Open AI's ChatGPT is saving lives medically, helping me a ton with creative ideas and elevating my business, etc. .. I don't deny the massive corruption done by these businesses, but isn't far more good done by these businesses. I was recently thinking how is it possible all these businesses do so much good for society. And I came to the conclusion that the economy is built on this idea of providing in-demand goods and services to customers, meeting their demands. Because they got obsessed with meeting demands, all of humanity has been elevated by that form of capitalism. I'm just trying to make sense of this. Is it truthful to just point out the corruption of capitalism while not acknowledging that capitalism has likely done far more good for society. (Of course I'm not talking about very dirty wall street, etc.) but just from your blog post referencing "The corporate world is basically one giant disease and they themselves do not know it." It's my take that the corporate world is a vote humanity has made to whore itself out spiritually for the material benefit of all of humanity. But the tricky part here is that spirituality is built on a foundation of survival, and such capitalism has done massive wonders for our survival. Am I wrong anywhere in my thinking? would you agree or do you have a different take?

Wow this is gold, great thread ..

@Leo Gura I wanted to say this before also, but are you not zooming out to the large reality perspective, whereas all that most humans are looking for is that small domain of that 1% where what they want to achieve can be done within that 1% making genetics less of a conversation worth discussing simply from wanting to achieve their results? That 1% though would make all the difference. Even if it is 1%, I have seen people go from incredible results in all areas of life. It's like, why are we a) talking about the rare exceptions, on a statistics graph the exceptions are the hard outliers. People are not looking to be an outlier, theyre looking for a pretty good position on that graph generally, and if we're talking about the general human domain .. and trying to go from A to B, even if its that 1% effort that will get you there, why are we talking about the 99% being genetics?

@Leo Gura just to remind you, many months ago on 2 seperate occassions you said 1) AI is more intelligent than any human, "it's just me and AI" against the world lol or something like that .. Im not giving the exact words, but the essence of what you said, and 2) "a world-class book can be written with AI" .. and even 3) I asked you once, that do you think AI is better for workflows compared to reading, and you said definitely .. it seems your views on AI have largely shifted? your sentiment has seemed to go from like a 4/5 to a -2/5 lol ? Is that the case?

@Leo Gura is the book just about consciousess, spirituality, etc. or other more practical topics as well? Is it away from the human domain and largely about existential truth?