Karmadhi

I notcied within my circle and people i interact with that when it comes to dating guys have legit 0 standards. They are willing to get and settle for anything they can get and basically give all their power to women just to get something. I understand you should not be super picky but at least have common basic values and things you screen the other person on. Quite sad.

@Etherial Cat Perhaps i should post a video made by Leo who we all tend to respect. 5000 approaches and 2 years of trying to get better with girls, interacting with a lot of successful guys with girls and this is the wisdom he shares with us. I would reccomend to watch with an open mind, and for once be truly honest with yourself about what you desire. No one will judge you for it.

This kind of thread again Girls do not like nice guys because nice guys are weak. Women reward strenght not kindness. It is not about being a bad person, it is about being strong. Strong and ruthless if needed. Think of a ancient warrior, that is what girls like. They will of course deny it because it is not ethical in today's world to be rewarded by that behaviour but in reality girls reward it. My advice: Integrate stage red in a healthy way in spiral dynamics. Stage red might be the most important stage in order to improve your chances with girls and most guys these days suck at it. This is the kind of self awareness and honesty i would expect from females in this group. Not the garbage that females respond with to rationalize their fantasies.

@Windappreciator I live close to germany, same shit for us too. I love when americans here make the whole world seem super social and open like murica is, far from the truth.

@Preety_India If a woman is toxic to me she will be deported from my life asap. I value peace in my life more than anything else, if a woman fails to do that by being an obnixious neurotic person than i have no reason to keep her in my life. I have been rejected enough at this point to be able to remove someone i may have feelings for if i see this person is not a match for me. Rejection makes you strong and able to cope with losss. Thank you for wishing good for me though, it is nice from you

He is in my opinion the best channel regarding the blackpill. He tends to be more pessimistic than the typical PUA or red pill guy but much more positive than the typical blackpiller. He downright says that if you are more than a 3/10 you can get girls if you improve yourself. Honestly that is more accurate than the bullshit "looks dont matter at all" stuff that some people say. Basically if you maximize your looks, most guys will be at least a 4/10 or higher and therefore they can get laid according to this channel. The only thing i dissagree with him is that he says that age hurts your dating chances which in my opinion, a man is at his peak around 35, not 25. If you are super insecure and hate your appearance then yeah do not watch him, you need a lot of super positive stuff. If you are mature and love yourself as you are than you can for sure watch his content. It is relatively realistic, especially for a blackpill channel.

@Leo Gura Mad respect for the willpower. I feel like most guys would have given up after like 200 apparoches without results. You should make a video just explaining how you managed to get the willpower and motivation to approach 439 girls without results and still going for it without giving up hope

@Leo Gura Man, i never trust girls if i ask them why they go to clubs. When i say this i do not say it from asking girls, i say it after i see how downright annoyed girls are after being approached by guys in clubs and how they complain that they just want to be left alone to have fun with their friends. I also see how unwilling they are to get approached especially when they are in a group. I used to believe that girls go to clubs with the purpose of fucking but after going to clubs myself i think they go to clubs to have fun with friends and if some top 5 percent guy comes to them they will leave their friends for that guy. Also you tend to ignore culture and the place at hand. Different countries have different cultures, Las Vegas for example is known to be full of girls wanting to casually fuck and it is super liberal city. Also american girls are super open relative to european girls. I have interacted with both a lot and there is a huge difference between the two. If drunk then yeah everyone is a social butterfly. The biggest introvert will become RSD Tyler if properly drunk. Of course you should approach and not use location as an excuse but i am just clarifying it.

@Leo Gura Most girls these days go to bars and clubs to have fun with their friends not to find partners or people to fuck. We are in the digital age now, girls have enough sources to meet people from social circle, work/school and online dating. I do not know 1 single girl that goes to bars and clubs to meet people or find partners, it is just to unwind with people they already know. Of course you can talk to them and try to do something but the notion that clubs/bars are places where people go to meet people is long dead. At least for girls it is. Plenty of horny drunk guys still and will always hit on girls on bars/clubs. Much on the annoyance of girls that always complain about it. . Exceptions would be parties organised by a specific organisation/events and social gatherings like a football match.

Toxic femininity would be a feminine girl that uses her charm to manipulate using sexual flirting and stuff like that. Also toxic femininity can be an overly emotional, almost neurotic behaviour in women or extreme neediness. To basically see what toxic "insert" is use this simple formula: Read the main characteristics of femininity or masculinity. Then take the characteristics and think of the most unhealthy manifestation of that characteristic. TA DA, there ya go. Masculine characteristic: Dominant, when taken too far can become down right abuse dictator. Simple example of toxic masculinity. Feminine characteristic: Emotional, when taken too far can become down right neurotic uncontrollable force of nature. Simple example of toxic femininity. However most guys do not suffer from toxic femininity like females suffer from toxic masculinity. The first reason is because guys are a bit more visual so they are not attracted to toxic behaviour the same way females are attracted to. The biggest issue is overly picky girls that have other worldy standards, that is biggest issue females create. Toxic femininity comes way below as an issue.

@StarStruck @bazera The current RSD videos i dont like at all. Aside from a few they re too soft and political correct imo. You will not benefit a lot from them. Google “actualized forum rsd deleted videos”, you will find a thread where someone posts a link with old deleted rsd videos. See them, those are 10 times better than the ones on youtube rn. Idk why they were deleted tbh, a big waste. Im currently binging some of them and i find them quite good

@Leo Gura Actually i seriously lack in the man to woman communication. I lack to some extent to leading although i do it but for very basic things like arranging where to go, sit here shit like that. I am not bad at all at handling logistics though. I have managed more than once to get a girl to come to my place and legit have her sit next to me and make it seem relatively natural. The issue is that due to the lack of man to woman communication beforehand i just came off as a friend and making moves would be extremly out of place. Not being man to woman is the biggest issue to getting girls in my opinion after not socializing and neediness. PS: these girls i did not meet from pick up, just from being social and interacting with people in my life. Regarinf logistics: Handling logicistics might be a nightmare in a same day pull or club pickup however in more everyday life social interactions it is a lot easier. "Let's come for a drink at this bar, oops it happens to be next to my place. Btw i will show you my place i got a new cool souvenir or i pay so little for it but its soo good haha. Oops we are at my place now. Hey, i will show you this video while we chill in my room, Oops you are sitting next to me now. Not rocket science at all. The issue is getting the ATTRACTION for all this shit to actually work, if you make a move without attraction it is just a friendly meeting and going for a kiss will be super out of place.

Leo has a good point here OP. In school you can interact with people easily so no need for actual pick up. Just be active, join groups and shit and try to be as social as possible. I developed my social skills A LOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT in high school, especially the third year of it and am i grateful to this day for it. At your age you can learn super fast so no need to force much outside the initial act of taking iniciative to socialize. The rest will happen pretty naturally. You should continue this in college also. I do not advise to become overly social if that is not your personality, however some decent social skills are kind of necessary to succed in life. Find a good balance just like in everything else. VERY IMPORTANT TIP: When you interact with someone new, do not see the interaction in terms of making a new friend, see it in terms of getting 1 hour of more practice in socializing with new people. Might happen that some people will not really want to hang out with you or have conflicting friends groups/different schedules etc. In these cases never go and say to yourself: "I wasted 1 hour socializing with someone i will not really be friends with or hang out with". NO NO NO NO, you did 1 hour of practice in the skill of socializing. You should be proud of it. You made a small improvement

@Leo Gura Actually you can be those things and still not get girls. What i lack which i did not write there is flirty, sexual vibe, sexual everything. You can be playful and make jokes without doing anything sexual which is my problem. I make girls laugh and create playful illogical vibes but no wettnes from the girl :'( . I also do not make legit moves, i may lead in terms of picking places to meet, suggesting meetings and the small "come here" kind of stuff, some touching etc but i never go for strong sexual movements. So yeah you can have those things i wrote and not get girls I have a small bias because the people i have met in my life that had those traits did more devilry than the rest of people i knew. May be just me strawmaning for sure, who knows.

@Leo Gura So if i want to become attractive to girls i need to reduce my integrity and self actualization? Selfishness, arrogance and cockyness show juvenile, insecure and low consciousness behavior. When i talk to girls i act funny self secure positive uplifting independent and playful. I am also humble, down to earth and try to lead in a positive healthy way. If i am confident in myselt i see no reason to act arrogant, arrogance to see shows insecurity and shallow “confidence”. It is extremly unatural to me. Same with cockyness. You can lead without being cocky. Is this behaviour considered high value?

@Leo Gura Is arrogance, cockyness and selfishness considered high value?

@Yali I would be curious to know too. High value in terms of being sexually attractive especially.

@LastThursday @Jacob Morres I am not talking about pure sex here. I am talking about relationships. Guys these days can easily get pure sex via prostitutes, if you really want to “bust a nut” you can do it easily. The idea is not for pure sex but for the whole emotional thing of a relationship. Cuddles, hang holding, being loved and desired by someone, feeling like a lovable human being, making someone else happy, growing with someone etc. Basically a relationship, it includes sec ofc but not just that. Why guys are willing to settle for basically ANY girl that shows ANY interest in them and have 0 standards when girls meanwhile have quite high standards and only will settle with a high value guy. Why dont men also have standards especially decent guys. I know plenty of guys that were quite fine that were quite willing to date anything.

@Preety_India You are right. However i have met a lot of guys that need more emotional connection and love than pure sex. Depends on people i guess.

@Preety_India Yeah exactly people watch some pick up videos and expect girls to have sex in the first date haha. That might happen in Vegas or Murican cities and Western Europe however in other parts of the world sex needs a shit lot of comfort and time spend with the person to happen. ESPECIALLY when people are younger. This is one of the things where i heavily dissagree with Leo because he sees it from a Western liberal point of view when most of the world is not that. In a lot of countries you need to legit marry to have sex with someone, and in a lot of countries including eastern europe you first get with someone in a relationship and then you have sex with them a few months later. Usually kissing is the "we are together" indicator, not sex. Sex happens after relatioship. The "there can be no realationship before sex" applies for liberal western places, not for the entire world. The attraction triggers might be the same for women in different parts of the world, however the order of operations is not. I know a lot of people from conservative countries that legit dated for months before they first had sex, they were in a relationship in the meantime. This is the case especially for younger people.

@kras Try to seduce her and at least do other stuff like kissing, foreplay etc. Some girls can be prudish and sexually repressed due to their upbringing so 6 days without sex can definetly be a thing. How old is she? Where was she raised and where is her family from? Does she has a lot or little previous sexual experience. I know teenage couples (around 16 until 18) that legit did not have sex for 2 years (except oral) while they were in a relationship and both were virgins. Sex and dating is not always like it is in American Pie, some cultures and people are very conservative and reserved about it. Stage blue basically.

@Preety_India Very true however a lot of them do not just want to fuck, they more than that want to feel loved and cared for by someone. Guys often will not admit it due to pride however deep down what they seek even more than sex is love, affection and human warmth.

@StarStruck @tsuki Yeah it started like a dumb thread that demanded sex communism and then it became a thread about sexual education and teaching guys to be more social and skilled at getting girls. Also it underlyed a huge problem in today's world which is not talked enough about which is the increasing trend of guys that struggle with girls. What pisses me off is that you have some guys that i personally know that are intelligent, kind, caring, relatively confident, cool to talk with and overall great people that are either virgins or had sex like once and then you have some fucking pieces of shit like John Anthony and other PUAS with legit hundred and hundred of girls that they slept with. Purely disgusting.

@Peter Miklis Plus sex is considered less and less as something that should be charished and done with someone you love and more as casual feel good experience. A girl that sleeps on a first date will be more likely to cheat than a girl that takes 5 dates to sleep with you. Reason is that if she takes longer to sleep with you it means she cherishes sex more and therefore will be less willing to have it on a moment of weakness or drunkness for example. This is a bit of a paradox for us guys because we all love girls to be able to sleep with us easily however we want them to be loyal only to us. It is the equivalent of the girls that want a strong ruthless guy to date but to her he will be super nice and kind. That often does not happen. Girls know this well which is why they hesitate to sleep with a guy very fast. Note to other: A girl that sleeps easily with you is great for casual relationships but tread carefully for serious relationships.

I think it also depends on the girl, some girls tend to sleep more and shit more than others (less wanting commitment). Also liberal girls tend to be like that more than conservative girls in terms of open relationships and stuff. Sleeping around has become less and less as a signal of cheating the more liberalized sex becomes. A trade off of being able to fuck a girl in the first date which is super nice for us guys, is that there is higher chance some other guy will seduce your girl and screw her behind your back. Liberal sexually open girls are more fun but for serious relationships i think a prudish girl would be a safer bet. Also trying to increase your worth and skills will increase the chance of keeping her loyal to you but you cannot compete with the entire world. Never and i repeat, never become less than the person you were met you two met, always try to grow and improve. Not for your relationship sake but for your own personal sake. Bottom line: Be wise about who you decide to commit, focus on values and not just on looks. Try to find a good balance between the two.