PurpleTree

Some things which Trump campaigned on, which at least sounded good and true for a lot of people i guess Bringing manufacturing industry/jobs back from China and other countries Stopping the endless wars Bringing troops home Being tougher on immigration (even though Obama deported a loooot of people) Draining the swamp (i guess it at least sounds good, but obviously not much happened etc.) And now after these four years, Trump and reporters fighting everyday covid etc. i guess people are just kind of confused, in their bubble, fed by their search algorithms Trump voters don't even consume/believe the same information/media as you do, so it's all a mess now basically

They're both kind of flabby and old. If either one doesn't want to leave you just slowly push them out of the door and close it.

Wasn't India by that time a lot of different countries and kingdoms and the brits actually made them one nation? Not totally sure but that's what i've heard. I mean it also contains the second largest population of all countries almost on par with China so i'm not hugely amazed by that. Are you generally happy that you have the English language as a state language or would you wish you were generally speaking an Indian language and didn't really have to learn english? Do you know that many European countries also got looted many times, for example during Napoleons time or first and second WW?

How would we defend ourselves against invaders, foreign powers, infiltration etc.? Would we have an army? Nuclear deterrence? A defence pact with other peaceful nations? None of the above, just hope for the best and be a shining example for humanity?

If we would build a new country and tried to make it as "good" as possible. obviously we wouldn't agree on everything. But if we'd try to adopt the best ideas, policies etc. from other countries. What do we take from which country from all around the world to build our new "utopia" ?

I should Probably Earth. We'd even need to vote on which place we want. Mountainous, Island, climate etc.? A place with beaches, mountains and fertile soil would be awesome (I'm looking at you New Zealand) but in the end we'd probably get any "decent" place we could buy and agree upon.

We'd see if we want democracy as a form of government or if we find something better. And i guess we'd have to vote on most things, as some type of direct democracy. Who would it be good enough for? Some things will be good for you and some won't. Who'd live there? I can't decide that. Would there be requirements to live there like for example a certain amount of plant medicine sessions?

That's why i put utopia into quotes and said try to make it as good as possible, nothing will be perfect. We could try to integrate let's say the ice cream culture of Italy. and then it'll be on every corner. Sounds good. Would it be mandatory for every citizen or just rituals and gatherings etc. where it's offered and people could take it? Also would we adopt holidays like Christmas. Would we try to adopt every holiday from around the world? Would we try to come up with new ones? Or go back to the ancient ones? before Christianity etc.

good we'd vote on it

why? everything's possible I don't think that's possible, sorrys

^ with those types of ideas j/k no bannings pls

you need more strong parties like we have in Europe, get with the program

How much of that is due to immigration in your own estimation? That's sad i didn't think Sweden is so backwards with drug policies.

that's pretty funny, dude

In Europe Portugal also has drugs decriminalised. The Netherlands also have pretty relaxed drug laws. With some other countries it depends on drug and amount etc,

Sounds like a great place for a commune

this was fun guys, almost over

Are you open to the possibility that Spiral Dynamics isn't real? (Just listened to Leos's "how Openmindedness works" episode yesterday )

also trump is an idiot (or a genius actor) and a narcissist child. but i still don't get how he's more warmongering than those others

Yea they picked their fights and ended up killing millions, oh much better they are also lies about WMD's etc. etc. Hitler picked his fights too, is he also better?

So Bush started wars which ended up killing hundreds of thousands of people, maybe millions. Countless civilians. Obama, Hillary etc. took out Gaddafi and supported (extremist) rebels in Syria which made those places highly unstable, conflicts were started which killed countless of civilians and still are. This caused the refugee crisis in Europe and many terrorist attacks there. Slavery flourished because of it. Drone strikes on weddings. Hillary gleefully saying that they killed Gaddafi etc. etc. etc. but they are all OK and Trump is much worse because he is "unstable and doesn't listen"? They're all scummy and we deserve much better, get with the program

look i'm not here to defend trump. but i fail to see how he is more warmongering than obama/hillary/bush/clinton? also i didn't want to post this video, but since the voting has been done it doesn't matter anyway. but it seems biden is not a decent guy, i just really heard about this stuff yesterday. how he threw young black men mostly into jail for decades for small amounts of crack and was happily defending it. the only reason voting for the guy is the environment and hopefully less divisiveness in the us. bern or bust

ok guy

Would you lock up people for future crimes they might commit? Or they might not?