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No, I truly think it’s his looks and lack of success. I remember when I was younger, looks was very important to me, and so it was for most of my friends. As women age, men’s looks become less and less important.

I suggest before you post, you go back to high school and take grade 9 biology class. If that was the case, any woman who’s ever given birth to a baby would never be able to have sex again. And we are talking about 50-70 cm baby here, not a 12 cm dick ???

I think you just look really old and that’s why women who are 40-50 think you are their age. Younger women probably think you could be their father and don’t find you attractive. You can share your pic here and I’ll honestly tell you if you’re just too ugly. Also, where do you work? What is your education level? If you’re working minimum wage and don’t have at least a masters degree young women probably wouldn’t bother dating you - they can date a lot hotter guy who still has a whole future ahead of him (or at least still some hope for a good future) not a deadbeat loser who is already written out of any chances of success. Also, OF COURSE women your own age are not attractive to you, they have STANDARDS and they can eventually see what a sick piece of shit you are, sorry but not sorry. You're attracted to someone whom you can abuse, treat like an object and who won't complain about it.

Well that makes sense

I also love her, her books are probably the best to ever been created.

You’ve said 3 times already that I only value people who agree with me ?. Why do you care so much to lecture me? ? You think sitting on a couch and lecturing strangers will make you high value? ? Also, I can see clearly that complexity is not something you understand, but I was taking in particular about a gap where a man is mature and a woman is in her early 20s. The age difference is not that bad when two people are mature, like a 30 year old dating a 40 year old. But a 30 year old dating a college student is messed up.

Do you really think I will take criticism of some random kid on the internet who is most likely broke/unemployed, looks like the bottom of my shoe, never even been with a woman, and has no experience seriously? Isn’t that really delusional of you to think that your opinion matters?

I find many young men more attractive physically than older men, but yet I don’t want a relationship with them. Because they are not relationship material. I wouldn’t mind going on a date with Andrew Tate, and getting stuff from him and getting paid a lot of money for it, BUT I wouldn’t want to be in a relationship with him. Because his money is all he is good for, there is nothing else good about him. Also, how old are you? Sorry but I am not wasting my time on immature kids who are getting so triggered and butthurt by what I am saying. You’ll learn, hopefully, with experience how stupid what you’re saying is.

Well, what can I say to a person who thinks Andrew Tate is high value ? On a personal note, did you ever even have a gf? Do you know any woman who considers Andrew Tate high value?

No I think high value as someone who is emotionally mature. Beautiful but dumb women are high value for rich but immature men. Men who are mature do not consider those women high value, because they need more than just the looks in their partner, looks is not even the main feature for them. They can have any woman they want, so they will pick the one that enhances their life, makes them feel good on many levels. They don’t need an accessory, someone to show off to their friends, they are secure, they don’t give a fuck what anyone thinks of them. You just call me emotionally charged because you can’t grasp what I am saying. Maybe in a few years IF you mature, you will understand it.

Did you watch the video? It’s not what you think it is, the title is clickbait on purpose, they are talking about the guy who made the video of “don’t date women over 30” arguing why what he’s saying is ridiculous.

That is pure BS. You are no high value men and have never met high value men, so you’re just theorizing. Also, just because a man is rich, doesn’t make him high value. Andrew Tate is rich, but he’s a mysoginist, no high value woman would date him, only women with emotional issues and immature. Men who are high value emotionally AND have achieved success in life, would not want to deal with the drama/immaturity of a 20 year old. Again, I am 30, I can’t even talk to a 20 year old person for long, I can’t be friends with them, they are at a completely different stage of life and don’t have any experience. It’s not hard to “win over” a 20 year old. A 20 year old doesn’t know shit about life and what it is that really matters.

Yea that’s true, I didn’t want to touch upon character. But using the language of the OP they’ve been “run through” by life at this point ???. I do think one category of these men are the bitter and cynical ones, very boring to talk to, the other category is the forever child ones who never grow up so it’s kinda obvious why they are still single. Yea, even the serious achievements don’t make up for having bad character. Men who don’t even have any real achievements by that age.. well.. good luck.

I am 30 and I am open to dating men 40-45, the problem is, I am NOT attracted to them physically. This bs that people say here that men’s value increases with age, is for sure bs, or the age is definitely capped at less than 35. I am seeing lots of men in this age range on dating apps, and they are not attractive to me whatsoever. They are balding, or some of them fully bald already, they have lots of wrinkles, their skin is weird and thick, they have grey hair (the ones that still have some of it), hairy bodies (the hair is grey on their bodies too), many of them also get fat. And the cherry on top - they look even worse in life, many of them post pics from years ago on their dating app, it’s a big shocker once you meet them.. Of course there are a few that still look ok, like celebrities, for example, but most of them… omg.. I can’t date a grandpa like this, I don’t care what he has or who he is.. I am not here to slam on old men, I am just saying be realistic and stop spreading bs. Just like you wouldn’t be attracted physically to a grandma, women are not attracted to grandfathers either, unless they are of the same age.

I am 30, and I can’t even speak to 20 year olds here because they are complete idiots. Humans brains don’t fully develop until the age of 25. A 30 year old who finds something in common with a 20 year old must be on the same level of underdevelopment. Many men who date younger women like that cannot date women of their own age because those women wouldn’t consider them “high value”. Only a 20 year old idiot who did not have any experience and does not know what “high value” looks like can be bullshitted and manipulated by those men to think they are “high value”. These men are also extremely insecure, so they do need the praise and admiration they get from those immature women. 20 year old has no clue about what is good in a man and what is bad in a man. She will fall for anything that gives her attention. Also, seeing your picture and how bitterly you interact here, as someone with experience, you by no means are “high value”. But truly thanks for the laugh.

Omg I am dying ??? thanks for putting a picture to this ???

Bump up

What does that have to do with it? It’s a therapist-patient relationship

Sure, for you it’s $300/hour

I am not bitter with men I actually can respect Also, I don’t think I am being bitter, you’re just too sensitive and insecure so you get extra butthurt by me simply expressing my preference ? - which is a common phenomena on this forum - men can say whatever they want here, vs when women talk about their standards ⬇️

I don’t need to learn game. What I need to learn is how to have healthy relationships and spot men who are healthy and want that kind of relationship with me. The steps are very similar - gain confidence, have success in life, be a good communicator, etc. It’s a very incel thing to say that women don’t need to invest time developing themselves. Makes it obvious that you don’t know much about women other than theories from the internet.

I personally would never date men like this, I hate cheap men, lazy men, etc. I would’t go to his place too, I value my time and, biologically, my time is more valuable than his. Furthermore, it takes more time for me to get ready than for a guy who just needs to shower and brush his teeth.

I still don’t get why it took them 9 months to do that, it was pretty clear months ago that russia was a terrorist state

Since we don’t talk about sourcing on the forum, can we at least talk about where to get information on sourcing? I know there are online stores, and apparently actual physical stores, both of which are illegal. I am very eager to try shrooms, but I have no clue where to get them from. I would be willing to buy them online, but idk how to do that either.. do I order them to my address but a wrong name? How do I pay for them if I don’t want my credit card traced? Can I use one of those pre-paid visa cash cards?

I said what I meant - it’s ridiculous to discuss it. I gave similar examples as to why it’s ridiculous. If you need an autistic answer - yes, Poland has the legal right to sue. It should sue russia, Ukraine should also sue russia. Zelensky’s job is to attract the world’s attention to the war in Ukraine and russian atrocities. Who else if not him would be doing it?