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@Schizophonia I'm not operating through that psychoanalytic lens, so most of that stuff doesn't land for me. I'm not shy, I'm not struggling with being seen in public. I made my account private cause I'd been close to writing stuff that could've gotten me banned due to trauma triggers, and I didn't want personal info out there without being able to change it. But yes, my mother was rather narcissistic and my dad was weak and depressed.

Yes of course I'm attached to results. I want to get laid more. And tbh, anything short of that feels like the effort wasn't worth it. I've heard the advice a hundred times: if sex is the crown, you're always walking around uncrowned. Women can smell the desperation from a mile away. But it doesn't stop the mental loop. This stuff is in my head 24/7. My whole life revolves around it. Whether I like it or not, a huge part of my self worth seems to be tied to how women respond to me. That's true. I'm not, not in the dating context anyway. The only times I feel alive and in flow are when I'm off-grid in my zone, doing things that have nothing to do with chasing women. Ironically, that's also when most opportunities show up. In that state I'm so in my element I'm not even bothered about making a move, because I feel an infinite abundance of opportunites. My mind goes: no urgency, no pressure...let them make the move.

For the record, I do enjoy being a man. I thrive in male-dominant environments. Leadership, pushing limits, competition, brotherhood...and I would count myself to be in the mastery phase there. If I regret anything it's not having been recruited into the army. I regularly out-compete other guys...except when it comes to dating. I actually dislike feminine environments, so it's not like I resent masculinity itself or wish to be on the receiving end like women are. I’m not allergic to effort. I grew up in a social environment where women actively hit on me and invested first. I know what it feels like to be wanted by the opposite sex. So when I say it's one sided it's not just my perception, it's a before and after contrast. I know what mutual effort and interest feel like. Since leaving that environment, I haven't been able to recreate anything close to it in the past decade, and that's part of why the current dating dynamic feels brutally one sided. Now I'm trying to figure out how to stomach a system where that kind of reciprocity seems to have vanished.

I don't consider myself short but I don't think being short automatically means you're physically weaker or less capable. Two random people came to mind: Marc Marquez (MotoGP): he dominates one of the most physically challenging sports out there. Eminem: people don't respect him for his size, but for his intensity and confidence. It's frustrating when people judge you on something you can't control, but there are advantages. Like being underestimated and then proving people wrong. A short person doing something with their life carries way more presence than some tall person. Gives off that badass underdog vibe.

No contradiction. So you're saying you see both...the zombie and the divine in the zombie.

@emil1234 These are honest, good faith questions and there should absolutely be space for this kind of dialogue here. It's not more attacking than how Leo sometimes addresses his forum members, fair is fair. Might even help him off his pedestal. Everyone can still support the retreat while allowing room for critical thinking.

You've dedicated your life to teaching people how to realise they're God. But if you still believe they behave like rats and dogs...what's the point of teaching them? Do you ever see that behaviour in yourself too? I am a human and I don't worship you. Doesn't that disprove it's inevitable humans worship someone behaving god-like?

Even if it's true that some humans behave like rats, isn’t it more powerful to speak with the compassion we wish they had? True, wanting adoration and receiving it aren't necesseraliy the same. You've reapeated it over and over, yet people still do it. You believe it's impossible to dismantle the structure that enables that dynamic?

Honestly, some of this language feels dehumanising and self-contradictory. Talking about people as "rat-like" and labelling critics as "enemies" seems more controlling than freeing. Of course people are going to put you on a pedestal...you've helped change a lot of lifes. But you also position yourself as their leader in "this work", even if it's only in between the lines.

What do you need to protect yourself from when you say you're looking for ways to armor yourself?

Fair point, you didn't directly address what I said about critical thinking. That's why I said the point was missed. Not necessarily rejected, just not engaged with.

I know. We agree on this.

@Daniel Balan Let him earn a million from this, I don't care. What I'm saying is: pause and examine the power dynamics at play. Especially before handing over your money. This is not anti Leo, this is pro critical thinking. Many of you are emotionally invested in the dude and end up bypassing critical judgment because of it. You're lucky it's Gura and not Applewhite.

You guys missed the point. I'm not leftist and I'm not against him making money either. I'm questioning why people are so quick to give up critical judgment in a context that literally disables it. There are an alarming amount of red flags in this thread alone.

Sounds intriguing but the whole setup raises major red flags. You're proposing God realisation under your personal guidance while also taking people's money. Textbook power imbalance with huge potential for misuse. Add psychedelics and now participants will have to rely entirely on your good intentions. Calling it "an experimental thing" and having knowledge you might or might not ever reveal doesn't make you look good either.

Don't worry, I only commit crimes against modesty.

@UnbornTao Damnit, you got me there. Don't make me look stupid.

The trick – if you're too attractive – is to be a criminal.

Actually, it's the other way round.

This is spot on.

On it.

@Natasha Tori Maru I'm open to hear what other mods think. It would also be interesting to hear what the two girls think about their photos having been posted online here, maybe @Husseinisdoingfine can ask them and provide feedback. Sure, it's a learning experience, but also a missed chance for the forum to show real standards. Waiting for reports isn't leadership...

@Natasha Tori Maru Solid policy. So photos in sexual context are fine unless proven non-consensual? Are you saying I could open a thread called "All the trophies I fucked, big milestone for me" (I'll make sure I won't show any nipples in photos)? See how absurd that sounds?

Nobody called anyone cringe. If you’re posting here, you’re an adult and accountable for your decisions. Text is fine, sharing your milestones is fine, but the underlying issue got ignored. Even worse, the mod stayed silent. Cheering on is easy, cleaning up a mess later not so much. Posting photos of people without their consent – especially in sexual context – just makes this forum look cheap.

Not caring doesn’t make it ethical. You also don’t care about work or moving out, doesn’t make it noble. In some countries posting faces without consent is an offence. It wasn't just random travel stories, he posted them in a thread about cold approaching, nightlife and how-to-get-laid-advice, which drags these women into a sexual context they most likely didn't consent to. Also it makes them look like objects: "Look what I (almost) pulled." Is this personal development or just rationalizing whatever’s convenient? @Husseinisdoingfine The photos were awkward, didn't look like they knew they were being photographed, which just adds to the creepiness.