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@Carl-Richard I like this! Good insight. The big picture encompasses the small fragments. Is it about creating links between the partitions within the bigger picture? Then that bigger picture itself is a partition of a larger picture? Seems endless.

No. Just No.

Walter White is the most self-deceived character i could think. If you watch Leos video, 'What is the Devil' and His self deception 3 part series, then watch Breaking Bad, Walter White just personifies self deception as an ego. Any one watched breaking bad and can draw some more parallels?

Do you ever anticipate the fact that you can't be attached to actualized.org forever, Eventually the holon that actualized.org is will splinter within it making the host holon of it unsustainable? People will grow so from these sort of videos when done properly that we will integrate what you say with a bunch more high consciousness resources that there would so much more 'actualized' people on this forum that it would be in the advantage for actualized.org as a holon to allow people to share/advertise their posts. Thus splintering it internally. I think there should be more democracy in how actualized.org is ran in the future. But from your perspective because you have attached yourself to actualized.org you have to defend it from having autonomy, If you were as conscious as you say you are you would've stopped making videos by now. I recently listened to leos episode 'collective ego', if you could tell. There's quote in the Quran, Mohamed said "There will come a time when there is nothing of Islam but its name". Can you draw a parallel with actualized.org? (I'm not drawing a comparison in what represents "Truth" here i am just merely pointing out the fact they are both collectie egos trying to sustain themselves) Eventually actualized.org as a holon will become "larger" than you in a sense, and your attempt to control it will be unsustainable for your life as the ego 'Leo gura' At some point is either let actualized.org grow and develop without lieutenant control over it and let it become its own thing of being a hub of high conscious resources 'actualized' people go on or you will have stop posting and go live your life. Or maybe i am deluded this is also possible but i just had that thought whilst listening to that 'collective ego' video. (One of his underrated episodes). It's kind of like eventually facebook is going to have to be a public utility. That sort of democratisation is inevitable to happen to actualized.org. I'm not saying it will happen now or tomorrow, but in perhaps 15/20 years it will be much different to how it is now or it would have died as an organisation. You ever thought about this? When you have finished with actualized.org, what do you plan on doing? Do you plan on just living like a hippy? or perhaps start a family? or running for office (lol)? Eventually the time you dedicate to actualized.org will multiply so intensively that it would ruin your life as an 'ego' to maintain the forum/channel/brand. But if you were conscious you would already know that, so perhaps your not that conscious. Just a food for thought. Or perhaps i'm the unconscious one, that too is also possible. You say people in one of your videos that people don't ask you deep enough questions, could you answer this one honestly? Just as a real life business question, or you can see it as a test of integrity to answer a question when a part of your owns ego survival is on the line. Or you can deny answering the question but if you deny that means answering the question honestly would've been threatening to your survival. You wouldn't be able to maintain yourself as some highly conscious god-realized guru that is more enlightened than Jesus. If you were that enlightened you wouldn't have the brand actualized.org. Maybe you will block this thread and kick me off the forum for asking this but doing so would reveal your not that conscious because if would allow it. You can make a million videos and reference a million developmental models but doing so will never lead to truth. It will just become another 'bible' in a sense. (Not that actualized.org is comparable to the bible or vica-versa but they are both holons that point to 'consciousness' in a sense''. But if your claiming actualized.org to lead to 'Truth' and your the 'teacher' and we are the students then you've deceived yourself. I think you should refrain from referring to yourself as a teacher in your videos, You should claim to be a 'messenger' or stop teaching, By calling yourself a 'teacher' you dipping your foot into the pool but not diving in. The possibility that I wasted 10 minutes of time writing this and done a massive projection is also possible. This idea was something that crossed my mind whilst going for a walk high listening to Leos podcast on spotify. That's all.

Can this be moved to the politics section? Put it here by accident.

Should there be at least some standards for people who get elected into office, as opposed to just the fact that they were elected? When I say standards I mean they should past standards or tests for integrity, honesty, systemic and strategic skills, compassion and empathy etc I believe that these things can be tested, I live in the UK and i am honestly so tired of seeing politicians with no integrity or a genuine fibre in their body being in office.

If reality is infinity and and we all are God, does that mean there are an infinite amount of Gods? (Before you get solipsistic on me and say there is only one God and I am him, if i was to burn you in gasoline it would be clear that there is a soul/consciousness that will feel that pain, You. Of course I imagine that to be. But it is undeniable that your consciousness is also conscious of the fact that the guy burning is conscious. If your more sure that you are God and the only thing that has ever existed over the fact that 'other' human beings aren't also conscious and aware in the same way you then your deluded and not awakened. Which one is more self evident from your perspective? As Leo said, consciousness can be conscious of itself to infinite degrees. If there are infinite amount of Gods, does that contradict the idea of one God? If Everything is infinity there must be infinite amount of Gods? But in one of Leos videos he said infinity is equal to zero. By that notion God will be Zero, not one. If anything infinity is equal to one. One is whole and infinity is whole. For instance 0.9 is not whole or complete if reality is one? The collapse between self and other creates one complete entity. Which is one thing. If there has only ever been one thing that was God, the idea of infinity can cant be be? This is complicated and language is of course limited when talking about infinity... I look forward to reading the way your consciousness interprets this...

@billiesimon Exactly, if you are God you also have the ability to delude yourself through thinking it is possible to understand what you are. That could be the dynamic Leo is going through

True, but if people did you would have a omInous reaction to it.

For some context, I asked: If you recognise that there is Absolute Oneness how can you simultaneously hold the view that consciousness can become infinitely aware of itself? And Leo replied:

@Leo Gura How do you know that? Did your mystery psychedelic you won't tell us about tell you that? How do you know that gave you a total awakening? How do you know there isn't a more powerful psychedelic on Jupiter that will make 5-meo DMT feel like weed in comparison? What if this psychedelic on Jupiter shows you that all of Earth's psychedelics are bullshit? You don't know. It is 'absolutely the case' you know it as a view. There will always be a more powerful Psychedelic, do you not see the issue of pursuing a 'more total awakening'. From the 100th time of having a total awakening, your awakening should be to eventually give up psychedelics, and awaken to the fact that it will be a never ending game. In your lifetime, the last total awakening you will have on a psychedelic will be the same difference in magnitude to any other total awakening, as you will still be infinitely away from a total awakening. As you could always have a more total awakening. So will still be in the same place you started.

@Nahm Then why create the distinction between the ego and God? What is wrong with me praying to a Trump as if it was God? If Republicans declared Donald Trump as God and worshipped him you will call them deluded, but by your logic of no separation between the ego and God, Republicans will be just as right as your awakening to Absolute Oneness since you cannot draw a distinction between Trump and God

Of course it is a thought, I said that the idea of 'your consciousness' is imaginary and occuring in the mind. However the consciousness within me is conscious of the fact that other egos are conscious in the same way my ego is. (I prefer attaching the ego to consciousness as opposed to the ego with consciousness, the ego can't have ownership of its consciousness - that would make the ego God.)

@Leo Gura If you recognise that there is Absolute Oneness how can you simultaneously hold the view that consciousness can become infinitely aware of itself? Supposedly you cannot go beneath Absolute Oneness/God,as there is no distinction or otherness to come below - the below itself is it. Then how do you also hold the view that the you can awaken to God to an infinite degree? Whilst simultaneously saying that you are God. To say this means that there is more 'God' for God to discover. This means that God isn't omnipotent, one and a whole as there will be parts of itself it hasn't discovered.

@StarfoxEpiphany You do not know what you are talking about.

Hi All, I have recently picked up my meditation habit and recently meditated with appropriate mediation music and I enjoyed it. Is this something that is recomended or should I stick to non sound meditation? Replies will be much appreciated,

@SamC Blue loves identity separation. Ego and Other. MY family or other. MY race. MY religion. Blue is so deluded on identity its crazy. But pre 1960 conditions were such that having a family was very fundamental to survival. the people in the past were very blue.

@Leo Gura Until you actually go get the vaccine you are full of sh*t for telling others to go get it. If you wanted to get a vaccine you would have had it by now. I think you are second guessing yourself about getting the vaccine, and you are psychology unwilling to come out as being against getting the vaccine on this forum. I'm not saying you an antivaxer but you are subconsciously uninclined to get it because you intuate something wrong with it. And in our current world climate, it is not stupid to have that intuition. I am neither pro or anti vaccine, I understand both perspectives on it.

@Leo Gura What would get JP to that level? I believe he has done psychedelics, will more psychedelics help him get there? To be honest I think we give JP a hard time, he is more conscious than 90% of people in the world. Don't know if that's a compliment on JP or a smear on the world lol

Personally I do not think this is wise, especially with what happend with Nahm and the guy that killed himself. If this happens again under the supervision of a moderator then there will be investigations into actualized.org If you are to do it then please vet the moderator extensively, perhaps get the depressed people to sign some sort of waiver.

I have been of the forum for a few weeks and have only come back now - I have spent the last 2 hours reading this. Can this thread be closed please @Leo Gura ? The whole thread is just filled with bickering, scapegoating and reactionary. Nobody wins by leaving this thread upon. If killing yourself is what you've understood from the content here then you have deluded yourself existentially.

I have been pondering on this recently, But what does it mean for something to be innocent? Why is a baby innocent but not Hitler? Is the cute puppy innocent? What about the ferocious tiger? Is God Innocent? Is the Devil? Were the Nazis innocent? Were the Jews innocent? If a human being loses their innocence what becomes of them? Do they become beast? If you are a murderer and everyone knows it but you were framed for commiting a crime you actually didn't do this time does that make you innocent or guilty? Why do we 'carry' guilt but not innocence? Is there something pure to innocence? Perhaps innocence is openness, humility, beingness, gentle, pure.

I’ve always been open to the idea that I was God when Leo said we are God. But always maintained that I didn’t know for sure. And that I would know when I know. Know that just happened to me whilst casually walking on a Thursday afternoon on a work day. It happened right now 7pm UK time. I’m writing this whilst it happens. I wrote this to my self on notes 15 minutes prior to my realisation. I told my self. Explained it to myself. Read below. God can’t want anything because it is all that there is. All that there is,is total. There is nothing outside of it because it is ALL that there is. This is how you should know that God is all loving. This means God is Nothing. Literally. God can’t be attached to to one ‘thing’ because to be attached means God loving and or preferring one thing over another thing. Nothing is no preference. Nothing becomes something because Nothing also has no preference for being it’s self. Then nothing became something because it couldn’t be attached to being nothing. Creating the split in reality. So God is nothing pretending to be something, this is how I realised I was Nothing being something. That I was God being Ego. The Ego is a lie. Lol when it happened it struck on me like lightening.

Has a bit of a tingly feel to it. A sour aftertaste as you merge back to your ego. Funnily enough I denied this experience to someone else on this forum.lol.

It was divine. It is divine. So simple yet so intelligent.