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@bobby_2021 I meant Us as "us", we, the collective. Not America. As i wrote earlier, the reason for the magnitude of the Palestinian conflict are to be found in the split and support to either one of the two sides involved. Anti-semitism is a factor, but most decent poeple criticise Israel based on their handling of the situation in Gaza and in the West Bank. Their operation and intentions are highly criticizable, independently of Ethnicity and Religion. And this is a position shared by many moderate Jewes and Israeli citizens.

@Vrubel Yes, but notice how what you just wrote can describe what part of the ruling class in Israel think of Paestinians. Don't portray Israelis as harmless lambs who have the whole world against them for no reason. As i wrote above, reasons are evident for disliking israel operations.

@Bobby_2021 Just explained to you. The Israel-Palestine debate is more wide-spread in the west because the media and the public is divided. Division create discussion. Put in the mix Antisemitism and Islamophobia and you have a bomb. We are so invested in it because, in a sense, this conflict talks about Us, westerners, and our internal political and social conflics. If you dig, you're going to find many condamnations of Saudi Arabia, but it just doesn't add up because public opinion generally agrees they're bad. Never said nor implied. Nevertheless, i think it was to be expected judging how they've been handling the sitation down there through the years. ---------- @Vrubel Antismitism is surely a thing in the west and not only. Urban myths and strange theories have contributed to the discrimination of Jews and Israel over the years for sure. But you also have to consider that poeple might be mad at Israel because they don't find it right to bomb houses and hospitals just because potential terrosist might be down in some tunnel. Jew have been often ostracized and hated but this shouldn't morph into a the victim card that you play whenever you are accused of something. I've always witnessed plenty of critiques regarding these topics. That the Saudis do not seek destabilization si arguable. Every time you participate, even indirecticly, to a war you are destabilizing the area.

@Bobby_2021 The logic is that usually Pro Pal. are pro Yemen aswell. The difference is that Palestine is a more heated topic in the West cause of the Israel support crushing with the support for Palestinians. Everyone hate Saudi Arabia. Easy.

@QandC This is common. What is basically happening is that you are disingaging/unhooking from worldly rules, morals, obligation, authority. Imagine a child that is taken away from his mom while he's still in the process of sucking from her breast What is going to happen is that you will naturally start to become you own authority. In other words: when you realize life is meaningless, it's ultimately Good because you can start to create your own meaning. My advice is: when you are ready, cut the stuff you feel you are annoyed by, keep the things you genuinely like to do. Because you will find that even in this ocean of nothingness there are some things you naturally gravitate towards. It's desires that made you incarnate, identify tham and fulfill them. That's the game. Change your life according to your inclinations. So it does bother you. There is always going to some deeeeeeeep programming that serves the purpose of not making you act like a madman. Because of survival, you're going to see that it's easy to act out of common sense. There is simply stuff you cannot avoid doing unless you want to harm your body-mind. Which is not something you want if you live anywhere there are scraps social constructs (ex. You follow the queue at the supermarket, exacly as you did before).

@r0ckyreed Which again, is not the same as telling other poeple to do so.

@r0ckyreed Leo never taught to live as if death is imaginary, quite the opposite infact. This is a fantasy of yours. Don't confuse investigation of Truth with a prescription on how to behave in day-to-day life. Conventional life is lived by conventional rules. Even if death is imaginary, that doesn't mean you should go jump from a building. No one is denying that "death is something that is inside the Universe". This is true, in relative terms. When Leo says Death doesn't exist, he's not negating the concept. He's saying you are imagining the concept, And there is no real concrete reality where this process is gripped upon. Hope this clear it up.

@r0ckyreed Is exacly because you don't distinguish between Abs. and Rel. that you don't comprend the teaching. To say that " Stallone wil die" is true in the relative day-to-day domain, but it false in the absolute domain cause Stallone doesn't have inherent existence, all he is is a character in this infinite stream of existence. You are imagining his consistency. You are imagining your consistency. ------- It's years now that i'vs seen you coming up with this topics, and the leit-motif is always this misunderstanding. Nothing has inherent existence, no separation. no will of its own. Every object that appears in your experience is perpetually sustained by a process of immagination. Including the concept of death.

@rnd Don't fall into the trap of thinking every country has the same level of developement. Authoritarian is a step back of Democracy. Here in Italy we had what Russia is having a hundred yers ago. And no, Democracy doesn't mean heaven. it can be pretty corrupt. But is better then whatever Russia is today. And no, Covid wasn't just a little flu virus.

@Danioover9000 good stuff you're smokin' eh When did i ever implied 9/11 was a hoax? i'm just saying that Al Qaeda didn't attack at random. There were reasons. But if you just look at the attack with pre- and post- knowledge you cannot possibly guess the why's. I repeat. Data are important, but they must serve the big picture, othewise there is a risk of useless and endless arguing about minutia.

@zazen thank you. I would add 2 things: 1 - It seems to me that Israel has been great in mantaining perfect ties with western Elites, resulting in them being pictured as the good guys in the middle east (national news, journals talk shows, but is diliked more that ever on the street, by poeple. With Russia (or better, ex USSR) is the exact opposite. Hindered by the mainstream, but moderally supported by a significant chunk of the population expecially in european in Left cirles. I think this has to do with the fact that now internet propaganda is massive. So much footage caused poeple to take a big turn away from Israel and Israelis don't know how to counter this if not from above. Instead, when the USSR was a thing Leftist, supported them, if not because of shared values, for a blind opposition to US values. All of this spilled over to today's Russia. 2 - Some suggest the future wolrd order is going to be a-polaristic. The economic dimention is becoming more and more important, and further developements will make almost every country leader in some aspect of trade. (oil, sectorial technologies, third sector abilities, banking). This way most countries won't be totally subgected to a regional power.

@Danioover9000 Maybe i didn't explain myslef clear.... I don't mind the analysis of isolated events. But it becomes a problem when it is the only way you make sense of a situation. And that has been the trend of this sub lately. The big picture is more important in this case. It's like 9/11. A plane didn't fall from the sky for no reason. there were hundreds of reasons. But if you just look at the towers falling you are going to have an incomplete picture.

@Danioover9000 That's why i said we shouldn't come to conclusions right away. How can you be sure Israel spreads MORE propaganda? How do you mesure? It's not like we're running short of pro Pales/Hamas propaganda online. Hard to say which one spread more. You can't compere a single human with a 100 years of Israeli government. You can't make sense of the big picture just looking at single events, expecially if they are countless and date back to the origin of time. I'm just saying fixation over minutia is never helpful.

@zazen Shock value is always the way to change uneducated and deeply biased minds. I agree. My post was directed to those who aspire to have a more nuanced pov over the situation. The risk here is dumbing down the conversation too much tho. Propaganda conversation. Not knowing exacly what's happening you jump to conlusions in fear that the other do it quicker then you. There is already too much of that. Again, i was writing from the pov of someone who wish to understand better the dynamics of the conflict.

@Danioover9000 To learn from every sources, but being able to descern the truth and the agenda. The answer isn't to spread more propaganda. I'm all for being conscious of what's happening on the field, but too much of that leads poeple to reinforce their biases, deafening critical thinking. Arguing about a single isolated event is useless. Not at all. I think we should back away because we risk to judge a hot event with rushed conclusion. Remember all the poeple that rushed to conclusion over the early hospital explosions, not even a day after the facts.

@B222 It basically means that what we call "matter" is a product of action of distinction that can only be mental. Whenever you disinguish between 2 things, that's mind at work. So, when you distinguish between mind and matter, that is a mental distinction. This means that matter doen't really have inherent existence and only depend on the mind that create it. A night dream is a mental production. But the waking state is too, in the same way, a mental production. And so is every object you can distinguish, including You. IMPORTANT: Some of these mental production run so deep into the fabric of existence that they becomes unmoveble pillars that cannot be bended in the normal sober state. (ex. night and day, gravity, Time-space, etc.) Watch som of Leo's episodes in the Metaphysics playlist and things will become clearer.

One of the biggest problems i see on this topic is that poeple over concentrate on posting clips, videos and chronicles of isolated events of either side supposedly doing evil shit, in an an attempt to make the other side look evil. I think instead that the focus should be on detecting the broader sistematic issues that have their roots in the historical context of the region, and still have repercussion on both Israel and Palestine today. This should make the discussion more fruitful, because counter-intuitively, the more you go back in contemporary history the less subjected to interpretation an event is.

@hundreth i rewatched a peace and i realized was to harsh. Nontheless, Destiny thinks that if palestinians would suddenly become non belligerant than this would be an advancement to peace that would benefit them, to wich i don't really agree to. And the idea that palestinian civilian should reject hamas and embrace moderation may be good on paper but impractical for multiple reasons.

@Nivsch War on terrorism (badly managed) doesn't justify the sacrifice of 1000's. expecially when they are the larger part, and the head of the organization are unbotherded outside of gaza. This will just lead to more radicalization and risentiment among the younger population and will make them new adepts to be used for new attacks to Israel , do you get that? And as i've said the history of the last 80 years suggests attack towards palestinians are more deliberate that it seems. @hundreth Indeed, because it showed the plot-holes in both of them. Cenk is under the illusion that there isn't a significant part of the palesinians that has benn radicalized and full on support Hamas. Destiny doesn't believe that Palestinians are or have been oppressed, which is crazy.

@Nivsch History numbers and data is the only way you can make sense of these kind of conflicts. If this isn't the way the how? Then by your own logic your are faulty because you are so quick to reduce dead palestinians to "dry data and numbers", but when it comes to Israelis you preach empathy. Observe your double standards And by the way, i never mentioned specific circumstances or blamed soldiers, they just execute orders. I blame those who make the big decisions. 1000 Israelis dead - intentional / approx. 15000 Palestinians dead - not intentional, collateral damage Observe your double standards And would you even claim that the west bank occupation is not intentional?

@Nivsch Israel's point of view has been fairly addressed and discussed and it seems to me that the most of us here accept that Palestinian and the others Arabic elites are part of the problem. None of the above though justifies what Israel has been doing in the west bank and in Gaza, and the more you gather details the more it seems like deliberate action rather than incompetence. More than 10000 civilians have died. And if you say "what else could they do?" than you are basically accepting the massacre. Or should I still call it "collateral damage"? Do you realise this line of thinking can be used to justify Hamas right?

@Vrubel I suggest you check the vocabulary and the definitions approved by the UN of "Genocide" and "Ethic Cleansing" @Nivsch It's good that you are atleast admitting the massacre. The problem is that you still think it is an act of defense and the overreaction is somewhat excusable. A conscious state shouldn't act in terms of "patience" or "vengeance", but through compassion and love.

There are certainly degrees of evil, but i've always seen modern marketing and advertisment as the quintessential example of deciet and falsehood. The music, the words, the images, the packaging. all designed to lull zombies into consumism. The goal isn't to present the product - it's to make you a regular buyer. You kinda see the Lucifer himself orchestrating all of it Directed by the devil:

@TheGod 1- all over the world apart from muslim countries, most third world countries, most asian countries, most dictatorships. 2- depends on the company. If you start a business by your self it doesn't as long as the content is hot. Pretty sure there are dudes with a normal dick that make a living off of it. ---- So you have 2 options: 1- open an a pornhub and an onlyfans account and start producing content with a willing chick, then spam it on reddit, telegram, x, etc.. 2- get in contact with the industry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography_laws_by_region

@Asia PWhat is happening to you is rather normal. An awakening can make you reconsider your values and desires and you will find it natural to chanche your behaviour accordingly. Nevertheless, you must know that leaving your obbligations unresolved will hinder your ability to concentrate on what you want. Spirituality truly flourishes when all areas of your life are in check and and troubles are kept at bay. You should pay the price for the moment, then it will be a downslide.