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26 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:You could Say There is no universe, just energy.
Quantum physics already are telling us This, but This the experience of every Yogui, that there is no such a thing as physical Matter.
What people understand today as physical Matter are just concentrated patterns of energy.
What you call your body, your Life, is just a concentrated information that the energy is holding.
If that information is removed from you, you will just become absolute boundless
That interpretation is real, ok, then we could say that suffering is some energetic frequency, and reality itself an energetic configuration. Really physics say without any doubt that matter is a state of energy, you can transform matter in energy. And what is energy? Is it something? It's the vibration of the material of the reality. And what is the material of the reality? Leo would say: mind. Ok, and what is mind? Not admitted the answer: the same than a dream. Because a dream is something, is a vibration, an energetic configuration, like anything else but in different frequency than a stone for example, but the same matter. Then, what is this matter? This matter is you. There is not another definition or answer. This matter is what arises from the unlimited. The fact of absence of limits , the total vastness make inevitable that you arise. You are, encompassing what is impossible to think, the unlimited. Then you are unlimited, and that fact makes that energy exist and taking form. It's very difficult to perceive yourself naked, without any mental creation around. Don't underestimte how difficult it is because if not you are going to say: I get it, and would be just an idea.
Then, what is the difference between real and illusion? There is any? What means: illusion? Means the opposite of real. Then, what's real?
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42 minutes ago, Asia P said:@Breakingthewall i just want love. i want to feel like a child caressed by his mother. How do i find love in loneliness?
There is not love there, it's absolutely scary and depressive, close to horrible, but it's the barrier between the human and the divine. It's like death, but if you are able to open yourself to it without any reservation, your heart opens and in it there is everything, the source. If you have had that experience it's because for you it's easy to get deep states of detachment of the human, so go for it, search the void and the infinite loneliness as much as you can, in it is what you are looking for , but not being loved, it's being life, be love
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Just now, James123 said:There is no son.
İf there is a you, you could think. Whatever we say is illusion. Don't give a fuck man, fuck it. Surrender, have fun.
Good luck with your deception.
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1 minute ago, James123 said:Of course life is suffering but as a self, but without the self, it is beautiful. İt is already is, because now is the source.
Sure but I don't believe at all that you are there, nor me or anyone here, and almost no one single person in the world
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2 minutes ago, James123 said:See still imagination, which creates thinking therefore you suffer. İt is not actual. Actualize
The correct answer being enlightened would be: if I see my son in agony I would see the perfect beauty in it and I would be happy for him because he's burning his karma to arrive to the absolute opening in the next stage. But being honest, would be that?
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5 minutes ago, James123 said:Your problem is imagination.
Your problem is self deception, but I can't solve it, then good luck with it
Just now, James123 said:ee still imagination, which creates thinking therefore you suffer. İt is not actual. Actualize
Yeah sure. That's self help, aka self deception. Ask Buddha, life is suffering. Karma, suffering ,engine of evolution.
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2 minutes ago, James123 said:İ had a open heart surgery and many other disease, when you directly realize that body is not you, you think much less. You see just the beauty. Your problem is imagination.
Sure, then if I crucify your son in front you and you see him in agony for 3 days , you would see it beautiful because the body is not him
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4 minutes ago, James123 said:These are all thoughts. How many times did you witness actual suffering instead of seeing on tv?
Well I saw some people dying in a way that I would call horrible, people have cancer and those shit , not only in tv, it's real, happens every moment
4 minutes ago, James123 said:You are completely deluded
sorry to say, but when I read you I only perceive arrogance and self deception
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Good, it's the first stage to real opening. You have to face this emptiness again and again until you are more or less comfortable with it. No meaning, no content, absolute void. Be confident in that it's just a stage, after the void the whole opens and you are that.
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In fact human life is not beautiful, if you compare human life with any other being, everything is in harmony except humans, seems that human are like a transition stage where reality is given birth to another dimension, and humans are the intermediate stage, and the pain of the birth is the huge human suffering that is the engine of evolution. Most of humans are unconscious of their level of suffering, and they deceive themselves with self help techniques to avoid face directly they darkness, because would be unbearable
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23 hours ago, Water by the River said:work, at rest, never stop trying to realize who it is that hears. Even though your questioning penetrates the unconscious, you won’t find the one who hears, and all your efforts will come to naught. Yet sounds can be heard, so question yourself to an even profounder level. At last every vestige of self-awareness will disappear and you will feel like a cloudless sky. Within yourself you will find no “I,” nor will you discover anyone who hears. This Mind is like the void, yet it hasn’t a single spot that can be called empty. Do not mistake this state for Self-realization [half-baked No-Self], but continue to ask yourself even more intensely, “Now who is it that hears?” If you bore and bore into this question, oblivious to anything else, even this feeling of voidness will vanish and you won’t be aware of anything—total darkness will prevail. [Don’t stop here, but] keep asking with all your strength, “What is it that hears?” Only when you have completely exhausted the questioning [killed/transcended the of the remaining subtle No-Self-Identity, resulting in True No Self, which is not a "No-Self" anymore but eternal infinite impersonal Infinite Consciousness/Reality] will the question burst; now you will feel like someone who has come back from the dead. This is true realization. You will see the Buddhas of all the universes face-to-face and the Dharma Ancestors past and present
Btw, that guy, bassui, was a real genius, we should read a bit about him, his life and his teachings, that seems simple but are very deep
1 hour ago, gettoefl said:Words profit much.
They got us stuck.
Yet without them, we don't get unstuck.
Blissful ignorance would be the only life.
Everyone knew god then everyone forgot god.
Someone has to speak else life is in vain.
Thoughts shape reality and words share reality.
Keep sharing the wealth with us.
Words are absolutely necessary to free the mind, are very powerful.
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Very good question. First we should define what is experience, then how are the different types of experience.
Is experience without perception? Is time without perception? Is time with basic perception? When perception starts to be complex and is aware of itself? Why it's aware of itself? Who is aware of itself is a creation of the perception, or something else?
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On 26/12/2024 at 2:45 PM, James123 said:Before your birth, there was an any ego?
Yes, there were infinite other egos.
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On 26/12/2024 at 2:59 PM, James123 said:Of course, it is mine or ego's opinion. Why should I choose suffering instead of having fun? lol. By the way, my life is not easy.
Maybe if you are 14 years old and are prisoner in a jail in Nigeria and every night 10 guys fuck you by force life could be less nice, or if you are a old woman with an stroke alone in a charity hospital that no one visits, or millions of possibilities. Being human is very often suffering. If real suffering seems beautiful to you, then yes. If you and your whole family are impaled and the 3 days of agony watching them and yourself impaled seem beautiful to you, then everything is ok
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8 hours ago, LoseYourvelf said:Me too, me too
Also pretty into pirates
Imagine how would be the pirates on real. In the 18th century, the English practiced forced conscription to strengthen their fleet. That is, a patrol would lie in wait on the roads and any guy who passed by would be kidnapped, put on the ship and not be allowed to leave the ship for 10 years being forced to fight in sea war. It didn't matter if the guy had 8 children to feed. This was legal and if the guy tried to escape he was hanged. Some of these guys managed to escape, became pirates, and they didn't love people at all.
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95% of the assessments of trump are strategy to confuse, then you never know when something is serious, it's like business man strategy to get benefit, for example that about the 100% of taxes
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Just now, UnbornTao said:You misunderstand. What I'm saying is that the koan is a questioning, an opening, and the tendency of mind to provide an array of ready-made answers seals off that possibility. Make of that what you will.
Thats not a koan, it is a question that a guy named Bassui asked himself compulsively since he was 7 years old. He was an interesting guy, a Japanese Zen monk from the 14th century, quite rebellious and independent, focused on meditation. His approach was to penetrate into himself to understand what he is. His question is not a koan, it is a direct question with an answer that requires a total opening of the mind. First you must reach the non-self, then the absolute emptiness and finally the total opening. My answer is because I know those phases, my rude way of answering you is because of your suggestion to contemplate more and reason less, since it seems disrespectful to me, since I didn't asked the advice and I meditate several hours each day and I contemplate uninterruptedly, if was impolite I'm sorry
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10 minutes ago, M A J I said:infinite intelligence feels alone and bored?
It's not what I say, it's what solipsism theory says . But anyway, I'm almost sure that Leo doesn't believe this anymore, was a kinda of mistake imo
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Any AI would be always limited, you are unlimited, the difference is absolute
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@enchanted forget absolutely any conceptual idea about anything in spirituality, just meditate, observe your mind, understand yourself, open yourself, little by little. Never believe any idea about how or what the reality is. Only get deep in you, inside is what you are looking for, outside there is nothing in this field
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On 26/12/2024 at 4:10 AM, AtmanIsBrahman said:An issue I've been grappling with for a long time is the bliss vs truth dilemma in spirituality. A lot of people who practice spirituality do it to achieve a happier state, whether they frame it as escaping suffering, having peace of mind, or experiencing divine bliss. But spirituality should be truth-seeking, and when truth is your goal it doesn't matter if you feel blissful, sad, energetic, or slightly despondent. You are searching for what is actually the case, asking what is reality really.
When spiritual teachers like Sadhguru say, "Would you rather be blissful or sad? Blissful, yes... isn't it?" and then people inevitably say yes, I can't help but see this as a spiritual deception. To an actual truth seeker, it isn't enough to just pick blissfulness over negativity. Blissfulness, based on our typical drive for experiencing positive emotions, seems better, but does it actually lead to truth? Maybe, maybe not. You can't make that assumption! And I see spiritual people doing this all the time.
Then there's an even deeper issue, which is what truth seeking really is. It only takes a little consciousness to see that everything we do is motivated by desire for one thing or another that always circles back to the self, sometimes directly and sometimes more indirectly. If you haven't grasped this notion, contemplate it, and you will see that it's true, similar to how everything in the universe can always be traced back to oneness- nonduality 101. So even searching for truth is just a desire that's ultimately arbitrary and only for the purpose of your own fulfilment.
The problem with just going for bliss is that in choosing that path and not knowing whether it leads to truth or not, you're essentially giving into the relativity of your experience and just going with what feels right thinking that everything is relative. And if you are going for bliss, you don't have a guarantee that it will lead to truth- it may be the opposite. So then the spiritual seeker (which is my situation right now) is in a dilemma of wanting to pursue truth but not knowing whether it exists or is just based on desire.
Hopefully it was clear what I'm trying to get at. This is an existential quagmire about truth, bliss. and relativity. I'd appreciate any insights people have, especially @Leo Gura as a truth-seeker.
Simply observe reality, nature, the cosmos. You are that, it is indisputable.
What is sought in spiritual work is to open yourself to the reality of what you are. It is obvious that our mind is closed for reasons of survival, focused in a certain way. Opening it is an enigma, it is something very difficult, but in it is the source, the reality itself. If you intuit this, there is only one path: to reach the end.
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20 hours ago, Ishanga said:Davino shared a good definition of Solipsism that I can buy into, where they recognize individual forms, such as we are with individual body/mind/experience complexes but fundamentally we are One in essence..
That's not the solipsism, solipsism means that the people that you see and talk with are imaginary and haven't real experience, you as god are creating them for any reasons, over all because you as god feel alone in the eternity and bored in heaven, then you invented that video game that consists in being a Japanese office worker with depression infinite times.
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20 hours ago, Candle said:So basically you are denying solipsism. Then it's okay. I don't have to say anything. You are free to have any concept you want.
Also I don't have advanced awakenings. So I don't want to argue with half knowledge. But I know solipsism is true, which even makes this post pointless. Who am I telling this if no one is there? I can feel it, I don't have words.
Senses and logic can't mislead you? Study epistemology.
Then why are you talking with him? If solipsism is true he is not real , is only a product of your imagination. Discuss with him or with anyone else would be meaningless, even psychotic.
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57 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:Any answer would be worthless.
Contemplate and dialogue.
What is worthless is answering people who aim to appear wise. Good luck with your game son, I hope it fills you with self-esteem.
Anyway, it would be nice if you didn't bother those of us who try to talk seriously. I'm sure there are other forums for children where you'll fit in better.

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@Asia P
This is a very delicate subject, people don't understand the scope of letting go of all their human ties, you do understand it, because you saw the absolute emptiness, the absence of meaning, the total loneliness, you have looked in the face the limitless void that opens before you. People say blah blah but they have never done it, they always grab something. God, anything. But you saw the void, I totally understand it. Then the only possibility is open yourself to the void, dissapear in it and open yourself, not be you anymore. It's extremely difficult, a lot of hindrances. It's here and now, not in another planet or moment, but the mind is running and running, attaching you with fear to make you an structure. Go deep in this work is crazy