Breakingthewall

meditation focusing on the fact that I am empty. only emptiness is real, content is fake

It sounds so christian

It seems that God does things at his own pace, right? a few billion years for the bacteria to begin to organize themselves into more complex organisms, another thousands more until after countless attempts the human emerges, and now the human trying to transcend the ego. You don't understand but you're aiming to understand. creativity goes step by step, even God's

because it is an illusion, unreal. and the greatest illusion is you, that you don't exist. It is not a metaphor to understand the matter, it is so literally. something really shocking. Questions like, how or why, appear, I doubt they have an answer. The only sensible thing is, since everything is illusion, let's try to see it, undo the illusion and penetrate to the depths. why? because once seen that it is an illusion, doing something else makes no sense

Well, one would have to ask what is perceiving. Maybe more than perceived, realized @James123 True, in the silence is the answer and it cannot be communicated

@James123 absolutely agree. what we perceive is appearance, it is not real. Even we are only appearance. if the mind stops the appearance fades and remains ... what? what exists and always has been, the only thing there is, what we are, alone. but is that nothing?. I only had some glimpses so i couldn't say

Yes, the reality is that there is nothing, our whole existence is a kind of false perception of individuality, if you go deeper you see that there is no individual. as vegan awake says nothing matters .... but .... why are we here doing this job? for the love of the truth? It may be in part, but the reality is that we are in this to escape the trap. Those who are somewhat intelligent have realized that the rat race that has death as its prize is not a very good business, and they have wanted to see if there is any escape from that practical joke ... and the good thing is that there! So nothing matters, from a global perspective, but I do care to continue in the rat race like a fool, although in the end there is no such thing as "me", or the race, or anything. veganawake and james 123 think they have reached the bottom, to the root of the mystery, and that the solution is that there is nothing, and never was. I have also seen that, but then I have also seen that there is something. here I am writing. which is not real? somehow it is. nothing is playing with itself a strange game, to hide to be found. I see what it is not, like vegan and james, but what it is is missing. part of the equation escapes you. It is true that if you remove layers at the end there is nothing left, that certainty that you have never existed, but obviously you can go deeper still

Mushroom therapy could work wonders for you. it takes some courage but the benefits are huge

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Yeah, in your planet and in mine, meditation is the key. In the Silence is the answer, in the words, only confusion

I'm not saying what is better or worse, i see it from the practical side. I have repeatedly seen that once the ego collapses, there is freedom all, without time. the wonder of the void. but it is impossible for me not to fall back into ego madness after a short time, and then it is difficult to detach the madness of self-referring thoughts. It's not about be spiritual or not, it's about freedom, quality of life. Well , meditating more and more is the way, I think

for me when I started to feel really happy in the silence of meditation. It is the change in which I saw that happiness is by default, it is what is added to what it takes away. it took me many months of constant practice

@VeganAwake So you have freed yourself from your ego in a constant way? Can you silent your mind by without effortless, without thoughts appearing? Or are you one of those who say: no, I'm still the same, with ups and downs, I get angry sometimes, but I know that the ego is not real.

Its wrong as soon as he catches me in his game with force. any conditioning is "bad" if you want to undo it. You cannot live with him because he is strong, he will immerse you in his movie over and over again. transcending it in a lasting way is not simply "waking up", you can wake up and go back to sleep many times a day.

@ll Ontology ll Here you just gave a perfect example. you want your movie to be the best it can be. is going around in a circle, madness. the only sensible thing is to turn off the movie, off, freedom. You can make a "better" movie, but it will still be the movie.there is no worse or better, it's only the monkey. you have to turn off completely, it is not easy! we talk about real liberation.

The problem here is, what are we calling here love? or self love? it's all the same ego trap. commitment? acceptance? Friendship? it is forging a stronger ego identity, which is the main purpose of most people. There is no real love, the only true love is that of emptiness. the rest is the monkey in the tribe. that's why the problem is not simple

@VeganAwake I know all that, and I get free my mind by meditating, but then any situation, or though triggers the ego, and you're back in the swamp. It is not only awakening, it is how to learn the way to make the conditioning weaker, understanding how it works. I at least see no other way.

Absolutely. The false self is the enemy. He wants to bury you

the problem is in the trial. you judge parts of yourself, or your life, as wrong, should be or have been otherwise. the foot has to deform to enter the shoe, and therein lies the mistake. it is the shoe that must be tailored to the foot. what is, is, without shame or pride. I say this wise advice when I am unable to carry it out most of the time, because at the end I'm a son of this society. It's difficult to remove conditioning and be free

more than that gap between thoughts, you are the void, but that void is, only that you speak another language that is not the thoughts, you have to learn to grasp that silent language. It is not only that there is no "i" and that is enlightenment, it is that you only exist, playing a strange cosmic game with yourself. there is no i, in the sense that everything that you consider your self, your memories, personality, characteristics, attributes ... are an empty movie with no real existence, but there is something that exists. it is nothing, a limitless hole, but very alive

Meditation is the void and in the void is the truth. mystical experiences, psychedelic realizations, etc., are useful to prepare the mind to accept the emptiness without holding hands, but living the emptiness every day, as much as possible, is the goal. is what we are, the rest is false

So were you enlightened when you were 1.5 years old? I think you have to get lost to find you again and see the truth . Just be is enough, or course, but it seems that us the humans have another path

nice wish. nothing less than that is enough

@OBEler maybe she would like to try mushrooms. for healing and deepening trauma there is nothing like it. you can also try 5meo. It probably won't give you realizations about your traumas, but an energetic reconfiguration. although I think that 5 meo is for those who seek transcendence.

Yeah yeah agree, i always thought like you, but now I think the only thing I have to do is undo the enigma, free myself, everything else is child's play