Breakingthewall

Yeah, the ego wants to get better, the wonder, etc, but if you do 5 meo there is no way to control it , and without this work is almost Impossible for most of people. I wanted the wonder too and I found the infinite death ??

Now I have a great sensation, like...infinite, incredible...but Everytime I was there I remember another sensation not nice at all: death, absolute absence, horror. Maybe if I go 100 times to this terrorific infinite at the end im going to love as you said

What do you mean? That I read or listen of Leo is more or less that enlightenment is to realize that you are god, and God is nothingness, and same time everything, so the same that you are saying, or the same that all spiritual masters use to say

He looks very healthy and strong now. And in the pictures where he looked older maybe with a good hairdresser he d look better. But it's true that many enlightened masters died young

@James123 yes, let go the self. It's a total surrender to merge with that infinite nothing. Really scary, I can't imagine how it's possible without 5 meo. Even with it it seems really difficult to me, it's the most intense thing that I ever experienced, and it's not nice at all

He said that the people above 84 is not going to reincarnate... maybe he is enlightened, but he says a lot of bulshits

Source?

Yes , exactly. Maybe next time. The pure empty seems to me death, the point is that shouldn't be a "me", and even with a quite big dose the horror is still there. But embody the infinite? There is no one to embody , only infinite and death without return (seems like) Yes, I'm masochist and now I feel very good. Maybe because I'm not dead for now. And positive too because I think it's one step more to the real dissolution. For me seems very difficult

No one left to talk, was infinite , but still no total death. Maybe wasn't the moment. Serious thing

Where are the balls to dead? Let's see if I find them, maybe they are lost

the transcendence of the "i". placing oneself in the perpetual present beyond the mind that creates time

I was in the void recently, there was no one there, there was no reference, no god, no beauty or ugliness, it was an empty hole, the absence of something, terrifying when I appeared. I want to go there without psychedelics, because his purity is complete, I feel a huge atraction. the problem is that I and nothing cant live together. I'm trying to educate myself to agree to come to nothing , but no ... no one can come in, I have to wait outside. difficult, but it supposed is possible

Yes, getting used to emptiness is not an easy task, ego and emptiness are like two powerful magnets that repel each other. a point about illusion: for the human, everything is illusion, the world is a creation of your mind. maya is an empty hologram without substance. fine, but that doesn't mean it doesn't really exist! the point is that the multicolored mental image that forms in your mind from ... something, is that, a mental image. it doesn't really exist. That does not mean that when you look at a tree, the tree does not exist. the tree is, you are. your body is real. you want to call it "just a thought", "illusion" ok, if it makes you happier to give it that name, wonderful. What does it matter if it exists or not? for you it is a creation of the mind, that is evident Totally agree

That is. When I go to the void (artificially) it's nothingness because my ego hates so much the void that even with psychedelic it's a big reject, but I'm in the process of understanding and costume. It's pure logic that if you are in the nothingness, there is a conciousness perciving, if not, how do you know there is a void without illusion?

Great report, I enjoyed a lot the reading

@James123 thanks for the conversation

I think there is a confusion with this of the memories. you are creating a duality between memory-ego and nothing. The point is that if you do 5meo you will clearly see that at this moment you are nothing ... but when it finish you will see that you are also something, a thought, an illusion, anything, doesn't matter. So what you are right now is nothing, agree ... but the nothingness is right now something. It has no relation to the monkey mind you said before. with your mind in perfect silence you are still something, a plant have no mind and is something. this is the point for me, to understand how nothing is something and something is nothing

Remembers are thoughts and are the ego, so it impossible that you remember anything before the ego. The question is, what is you without ego? It's the awakening I think Let's see, for now I have to agree, I had realizations but not a true awakening. When I realized the nothingness, was only nothingness, but many people had very different experience. I think 5 meo could be the tool, but not smoked like I use, too short

If your mind stops, nothingness manifests. it's pretty obvious right? With your mental "movement" you are creating this reality, space, time (or re-creating, it doesn't means that there only exist in your mind, but for you it is). So when your mind stops you perceive that all space-time reality is an illusion. nothing magical for now, simple mechanics. the question is how that nothing has the potential to produce that thought. You say that it is not the nothingness, is me ... ah yes, but it happens that I am nothing, as I came from the nothingnes, then? As leo is not around here, I am going to say what he would say: kill yourself with 30 mg of 5meo in your nose or in your ass . For me it's a good advice, maybe for you too

This is the point. You (and me) can't perceive how the nothingness create a thought. The nothingness is doing something. Not something, everything. Only thoughts , illusions, but exist. I can't understand how this duality exist, I saw the nothing and the illusion many times ( there is not I, etc, yes I know but still you perceived). Anyone who went deeper is going to say that there is not duality, nothing=everything, but I can't understand. So more visits to the nothing, more time, more deep, are needed.

I think there is truth in what you say. If I do 5meo in a more or less high dose, I come to nothingness and it seems to me that I am on the ground of reality, but although it seems that there is no me there, there is a rejection of nothing. horror. even so when I return I perceive that in that nothing is the key, but I don't see where or how. I cannot accept it, it is absence, zero, death. I have to go back to that nothing until I can be that, it's something really scary

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@BakeJeyner Maybe what works for me will work for you when the cosmos seems scary, strange, empty, horrible, after a psychedelic experience. Observe yourself, your being, your mind. don't think, observe. what you now remember of your visit to the "other side" is a distorted memory. what you observe is the expression of reality. don't analyze it, just be. This is closer to reality than your memories of the psychedelic trip

I think I understand what you want to expressing, but why you use the name or adjective nothingness? It's not adaquate. Nothingness is a zero, being is something. Not material , or visible, but different than nothing

What other thing could you trust?