Breakingthewall

I think that humans form the idea of the self by our complex social interaction. I suppose that other social animals will also have a basic self, monkeys, wolves etc. we as humans not only perceive, but we are perceived by our peers and this is essential for our survival. many times more important how we are perceived than what we perceive. if you focus on what you perceive there is only perception. if you focus on being perceived there is only i. after hundreds of thousands of years this is encoded. there is fertile ground for the self to be created. I imagine that someone who has grown up without social contact will lack self, although it will be very dysfunctional and probably unhappy, since the human does not have that nature. such a case would be interesting

Leave the noise, the phone, the plans, the seduction, the phone, the phone, and meditate for three hours. And you probably can feel it (this recommendation is over all to myself)

I think that it is a way that the ego uses to feel that it is in control. as @LastThursday says. the voice is not the ego, it is that the ego abhors silence because it is the absence of control, the beginning of its dissolution, so constant talk is its tool to be entrenched. It is a real nuisance and the ego itself thinks that it should shut it up because it will be happier that way, but it can only do it by force for a short time, like holding its breath. the thinner the ego becomes, the calmer the talk, although its essence is anxiety. What he repeats in a thousand different ways is: watch out, stay alert, don't relax or you'll disappear, stay in control or things will get ugly. to give up is madness, decadence. silence is death

it falls away but then returns, and is much happier when he knows that it is not real. before that he lived in panic

transcend the ego as much as possible to enjoy the beauty and joy of what you really are and go beyond fear

for me one that is priceless is mushrooms in medium doses. the results border on the miracle

Beauty means the perfection of what it is. if you remove judgment, perfection appears

That seems to be seen through the filter of the ego, of the "should be". If you eliminate the should be you will see the beauty

beauty, joy, passion, art, love. just look around you

Yes, i think you are right, but since I was not ready for that, it seemed to me death, nonexistence. because of the enormous attachment to the ego. Such an experience makes you see the need to tune your ego. it is your ego, which somehow is still there in a minimal way, the one that sees in that empty death. emptiness is empty consciousness. Maybe with a longer experience, plugging, it would be different, but it is something that must be done at the time

I had a similar experience the first time I successfully vaped 5meo, it was 17mg. nothing, emptiness, it was not me, nor anyone else, only the limitless emptiness. dead. I came out of the experience with the sensation: well, under the appearance there is a dead, anonymous, silent emptiness. Quite horrible. I am still in the process of accepting that emptiness, embodying it, since that emptiness is also what we are in. Every time I meditate for a long time, more than 2 hours, I have the feeling of reaching the base, to that emptiness, and it is still nothing but the attraction towards it makes me want to take a look at it as often as possible. i Intuit more, like behind the void, if it's possible. somehow that seemingly dead void is all there is, which is nothing. apart from this I have done many times more 5meo. in low doses there are realizations of beauty, unity, but more than 15 mg, the void. Going back there is not a joke, but there is the key I think.

Of course it's egoic, like christian. Try be loving or selfless? More egoic is difficult. Try is egoic, try to be rich is egoic, but try to be loving is double egoic, like you d gain any spiritual gainings doing that. You take many things for granted, such as knowing how all romantic relationships are, where the good and the bad are, a lot should be, a lot to forgive atrocities. Maybe you are committing them when you step on the grass. it is true that sex often has a lot of ego. like almost everything, like eating, for example. I respect celibacy but here is all that natural desire. for what? to withstand it as a test or something? it is a complicated, difficult or impossible matter that there is an answer for everyone. Better to be open and don't be sure of anything in that matter

@Windappreciator you are right. Deal with people with fixed ideas are very difficult, but the important thing is to free oneself from all that, and it seems that it is already the case. the hardest job is done. @puporing congrats for having been able to free your mind coming from a family where values are the opposite of freedom, it is not common or easy, it is like a small war that you have to fight

I have met two Chinese girls who were in my country studying, and I saw that what they were really doing was escaping from their family, from the pressure to get married. the problem is that they were also completely materialistic, focusing on money, brands, etc. very lonely people, very demanding with themselves, depressed and on the way to more depression and darkness. How many people like this is China producing? millions? The Chinese must free themselves, they have a hard job to even start doing it

The problem here is not how to deal with your parents, it is how to get them to not affect you at all. it is a difficult issue that you have to resolve. There are two options imo: 1, stop treating them, 2 continue doing it, making the emotional charge that this entails slip off you. I would clearly try 2, it is a difficult challenge but it is an opportunity for evolution, to become someone stronger. You cannot count on them accepting your points of view over time, maybe they will, or that they will continue to reproach you eternally. a tough test! turn the other cheek, love them as much as possible, and above all, not give in a millimeter to their pressures

@Thought Art @Thought Art It may seem to you that this mountain of shit is very real, I have been under the weight of the mountain of shit until very recently, until one day it was deactivated. on a mushroom trip by the way. I realized the emptiness of reality, and in a moment the whirlwind spinning in my mind became completely harmless. it completely lost its venom, and strangely enough it was permanent. continue with the work, go deeper, in the end the ego is deactivated, they are not stories. the gain in quality of life is priceless

@Thought Art You are depressed now man, it's a shit, but I would say that by now you know very well that all those thoughts that overwhelm you are absolutely nothing. it's just what you are choosing right now to tell yourself. With half an hour of meditation you can make the bubble burst and see the unreality of all those ideas. It does not matter if you are 25 or 83 and 20 illnesses, it is at this exact moment when you choose to bombard yourself with shit or enjoy the moment empty of content

If you've had two beers the day before, you probably won't notice it, but the ideal is not to have drunk anything before or afterwards for a day or two. why? because when you do 5meo a great amount of energy is released, like kundalini, your arms and legs can vibrate like epilepsy, and alcohol blocks that energy. I have personally checked it in both ways. Drinking before is stupid but at the beginning of experimenting with this I did, one leg fell sleep and the fingers of one hand were sore and stiff. something very real, with a two-day spasm. Doing it later is tempting, a beer to calm the situation. Mistake. the energy continues to flow for hours, you can notice that if you meditate , if you drink it will be blocked. it is a feeling of something negative, not healthy

well, imagine the following: they give you an intervention and they cut a wire from your brain and suddenly you stop having sensory information. no sight, no hearing, no touch, nothing. oh my god am i here trapped forever ... here? where? who is trapped? how long? What are you? You keep thinking and thinking, but there is no place to go, nothing happens. That little ego that you are stays well screwed there, you just need to cut another cable and your memory disappears. like a fetus, to zero. where are you then? do you exist? What are you?

Keep in mind that all you see is a creation from the back of your brain based on the electrical impulses it receives from the optic nerve. a great job without a doubt, quite beautiful. but it is still a special effect. if you close your eyes it disappears

if they give you anesthesia, you disappear. the same as if you die. your ego disappears, it disconnects, there is no more memory or perception. for you that is total death since you are identified with the ego. but at another level you are me, and the ego with its memory is an illusion that is happening apparently, like mine. if the identification with the ego stop, or get weaker, and begin to identify with what perceive the ego, you find immortality. You, as a ego ,don't care so much what happens to the ego because you see that you aren't real, something empty. You understand, for example, that someone is completely calm before their execution. He has let it go, he doesn't care what happened to the ego, he sees it for what it is. But if you are totally identified with the ego the idea is horrible, even unthinkable. So the answer would be: when you die, nothing happens except the disappearance of this illusion, as if it had never existed. so somehow it doesn't exist now either. Detachment is the answer

Sounds good, but the problem is that once you are at that point things get strange. the dream no longer makes sense, it is true that suffering decreases a lot, but living in a state of unreality is not satisfactory. This is when you change from escaping from suffering to seeking the truth ... whatever it is

@Terell Kirby thanks! Yes, the first impulse is to escape of a bad dream...after that maybe more to realize the truth=present moment. If the movie were good, probably you are ok with that, like most of people, and you never realized that was a movie

In the absolute sense i don't know, but in the relative yes: erase, or dissolve, the delusion of the mind, the constant interference, the background noise, to plunge into the present moment. for the simple reason that it is more pleasant, more honest. and beyond that pure bright glory is intuited. reason to spare, more when the other option, to continue in the movie, is quite stupid and even insane

@KaRzual It is not easy at all. sit down to meditate, you will see that the thoughts arise. every thought is a manifestation of the need for control. to let go of control is to be in the void, with nothing to hold onto. "you", so your ego, has as its main function to be in control, for that it carries out a constant activity of thinking. It conceptualizes non-stop to get the feeling that dissecting reality and controls it. the way to stop doing this (I think, I'm on it) is to see that control is an illusion, to understand that the entire ego is an illusion. the dissecting activity of the mind provides false security. everything it says is empty. you are floating in the void and clutching imaginary handholds for fear of having nothing to grasp. you have to see that these handles are nothing, illusion, and have the courage of be without nothing to grasp I say that it is not easy because our mind is the heir to thousands of generations of minds that have been conditioning themselves to completely need to hold on to firm imaginary handholds. no control is the last thing your mind is willing to accept. is going to change one handle for another. conscience, god ... whatever. the point is that this mind is penetrating enough to know that what it is doing is false. it is the mind itself that knows that it must leave control, since with it it is locked in a jail that only serves to suffer. the mind has to see it and surrender, I can think of no other way except psychedelics