Breakingthewall

no because there is no you. you and me are the same, but we have a structure that contains or shapes that being that is different. it is a strong, real structure. if it didn't exist we would be drooling with a huge smile. What I believe is that when our body dies, the shape of that structure will be reborn. since you are me, and all beings, you will also be that being limited with that structure. your future parents, your circumstance, absolutely everything that happens to you, every millimeter of your nails, will be predestined for the development of that structure. its the dance of karma. of course all of this could be false, nobody knows

@Username Yes, I think that this whole story of reincarnation comes from intuitions that ancient mystics have had, it does not have to be 100% correct, or not even approximately, but I do see interlocking patterns, predestined family histories, structures that evolve ... but it doesn't have to be true of course. About the totally enlightened idk, maybe you could be 99,9% enlightened, any Buda that is meditating all day,needs to be fed, egoless, just presence

But "you" don't exist, that you is me, the dog, etc...so the only that could reincarnate is the ego. Is it possible? I believe yes. That's why is said that when you are enlightened there is not more reincarnation,. because there isn't ego , energetic structure, to continue

I don't know... How appears any life? Magically? Some pattern dissapear but the structure remains and starts again. Maybe not but I think that happens

my insight is that the pattern continues. There is no you that is going to reincarnate, but there is the energetic continuity of your pattern. a being with a similar basic configuration reappears. I think that it is the evolutionary nature of life, always taking another step, perfecting oneself, dancing the dance of karma

Thanks for your words my friend, once you see that the logical mind is the jail that keeps you prisoner, there is no other option but liberation. The problem is that as it happens to prisoners who have been in jail for a long time, they only know that and freedom seems strange to them. The vertigo of don't have nothing to grasp, but we must get used to that, it's the freedom

Exactly, same goes for looking the blue sky, there is not you , an act of observation, and a sky, with an empty mind all are one

I'm not sure, because my mind doesn't give up easily, it's a process of understanding that it's nothing that you can grasp. Left something that you live while it is but cannot remember when it is hidden, a kind of perception, understanding without concept...I'm just scratching the surface

I think that to get close to nirvana , or enlightenment, or the name of the openess to the reality, you have to go through the wall of logical thought. To say that God has done such a thing for such a reason is wrong by definition. the truth is very slippery and as soon as you try to catch it it disappears. openness is to stop thinking, give up defining, abandon the mind. as if you had grown up in absolute solitude, without language, without any human contact. It's not easy to abandon all human bondage, but I think once you start, it goes pretty fast

great description. stop trying to understand is surrendered

something tells me that reincarnation is real, but who reincarnates, if there is no individual i right now, is an illusion created by thought. I would say that a pattern is reincarnated, a mold with the characteristics that you have acquired in this existence, but empty, without any memory but with very marked tendencies. your candle goes out and gives light to another candle that continues to evolve, but there is no i, only the cosmos incarnating

We would have to agree to a collective suicide, since "evil" is necessary to sustain the population in the world, that is, the exploitation of the other, be it human or animal ... or Vegetable, destroying the environment natural. This society has gotten where it is because of the ego. If all of humanity were suddenly enlightened, it would be as if a stock broker were enlightened, he d have to undo many external aspects of his life

@James123 Wang Che, ancestor of the Complete Reality School, said "When the mind forgets thoughts, it transcends the realm of desire. When the mind forgets objects, it transcends the realm of form. When the mind does not cling to emptiness, it transcends the formless realm. Detached from these three realms, the spirit abides in the homeland of immortals and sages, the essence exists in the domain of pure openness.

Probably you are right

There is no meaning, only being

Don't run in the rat race, but for that you must stop addiction to money. transcend the ego, live in the nature, have only to eat and not be cold and that life flows

it is a dream in the sense that there is no i, it is a fantasy created by the collective thought system. When you wake up from that dream, reality is left without identity, you are the perceiver and the perceived. in another deeper sense, it could be said that the material universe is a dream of the absolute, of infinite consciousness, that it really is nothing if you contrast it with the infinite, which is empty, without content

@OBEler well, I started with psychedelics with the idea of transcending the ego, and all this horror was obviously the ego struggling not to be transcended, so I saw in it a perfect tool. If you think about it objectively, there is not so much to fear, it is true that there is the possibility of very intense fear, but the mind knows how to adapt and it is quickly forgotten. In addition, each experience is one more step in the understanding of the ego. instead, the possible benefits are enormous: liberation. I'm not saying it's at that point, but the difference from when I started is big. What changed? At first you can't even imagine what is an ego death, after you start to get used to give up . The nothingness is purity

Dissolve all the limits

Interesting idea about the emptiness. Many people think that that realm of formless is the essence of the reality. The void appears like unlimited, nothing, flat conciousness without content. Infinite, and as infinite nothing could be out of it, but in the other hand there is the dance of karma...there is the mistery. They solve it saying: the universe of karma doesn't exist, it's an illusion, dream. only the absolute is real .

Right, "why" is a silly question because it is a question. Enlightening (as you said) activity, is largely the gradual dissolution of the mind's constant conceptual activity, the tireless sorting, judging, questioning, pondering, and "understanding" . Limiting activity at he end, that never stops for a moment. That is the "curtain" that separates the two realities, which really are the same. On the illusion or not of being separate beings ... when the curtain dissolves completely, you are aware that you are not "you", you are the entire cosmos, and beyond that, the nothing that is, or the absolute . But I guess we are all three (the Holy Trinity ha). Regarding the role of reason in this process ... your style is rational but so dense, at times it touches deeply beyond reason

Yes , it's that I said, that seems it was not ego but if it was, same that in the experience of the op

Exactly, ego death is not a joke, the ego is going to figth with all of his power (that is not small) . Next time you are going to be more prepared. As you can see, big courage is needed to go again. This panic is the fire purifier. Many things in you mind are going to change, don't get hurry, reading you it's quite obvious that you are going again but some integration is needed.

If my experience is of any use to you, for me nothingness, infinity, call it whatever you want, it was absolute horror, death, and now it seems to me the most wonderful. the difference is in me, not in the infinity obviously, and that difference has been produced in about 4 months thanks to this substance. it's an amazing catalyst.

Or maybe you start again. The dance of karma