Breakingthewall

There can only be one truth and that is that you open yourself to the truth of what reality is, but Islam does not try that but rather it tells you things so that you incorporate them into your conceptual software and take that as truth. This is already a lie by definition, since the truth is not conceptual, it is reality now, so, for that reason alone, it is bullshit

I think you have to because it's like the openess to reality. It is something that you first intuit, and you also intuit the barrier that prevents you from seeing, so the disciplined types do thousands of hours of meditation and the less disciplined less hours but they fry their brains with psychedelics (like me) until they break the structures and can perceive as much as possible what reality is. It's something like you can't open the door, because you are the door. You can only use dynamite and blow it up, blow yourself up, but even then, it won't work because you will still be there taking notes, and that way, you will still be the door, but if you are subtle and you realize that, your greed for knowledge, and You let it go, then you can let go of your self, let it fall into the void, and the door disappears.

because it is full of arbitrary categorical statements, invented precise definitions of paradise and all that

@Nabd I meant, seems obvious that all religions are let's say, metaphors, incomplete ways of approaching spirituality, but Islam is the most categorical of all: the Koran was written directly by God, it gives precise instructions, etc., so you could say that it is especially bullshit, right? Can this be talked about openly in an Islamic country like Syria? Do intelligent people admit it?

You can open yourself to the infinity or not, reality will continue to develop equally, but it seems that this opening is an evolutionary step towards which it is tending. At a level of complexity, reality creates the necessary breeding ground for this act to take place.

Then you try to be open to reality as much as possible. The fact of opening yourself to the nature of the infinite brings with it real understanding of the movement of reality, direct vision outside the conceptual mind. You are not reading a book about coral reefs, you are in the coral reefs directly, perceiving the movement. One thing is the nature of reality (lets say enlightenment) and another is the movement of reality, the dance of the infinite manifesting itself. This has no end, each color, texture, movement, sensation, idea, manifests the perfection and complexity of this structure. The taste of its essence becomes more and more obvious, and I seems that the understanding becomes deeper and deeper.

@Nabd In Syria, among people with culture, can this be talked openly, or is it a difficult issue?

Its completely obvious: reality is infinite, so you are infinite. Enlightenment is realizing your true nature: the infinity. It's not realize the fact that you are infinite, is to open yourself to the infinity now and become infinite. Because you are that, really. Now the infinity is, and you are that, but it's veiled. Remove the veil of the shape, and realize what you are. It's not easy, but if you really want and give yourself, you can do, it's a matter of surrender, drop the self, the need of knowing, understanding, grasping. Just die.

Yes, I have had moments of total dissolution of the form in which total infinity is completely manifested, and almost full time it is quite transparent. the glass is full, as they say. The thing about the rupert spira screen doesn't seem like a good metaphor to me. Let's say you are the T1000 from Terminator 2. Your substance is the liquid metal that, only infinite, takes on infinite shapes, colors and textures, but it is always the infinite liquid metal. You can say: ah, well, then I know what reality is, that's the liquid metal. It doesn't work like that. in the liquid metal there are all possible forms, like at the end when it burns and they all appear, only they are infinite. everything is there. It's unimaginable. You can only open yourself to it and be it.you must get rid of the form, put it in the background, break the limits, and realize what the real quality of the infinite is, what it is, what you are. If you think about it, you lose it, because thinking is giving shape. The form takes center stage and the essence fades. put the form in the background until it is nothing, then the essence manifests. empty the glass so that it fills up, typical

Fear is one of the cements that keeps a certain pattern of reality stable. It is nothing at an absolute level, just an energetic configuration necessary for a given creation. an ingredient that keeps your experience stable, the same as many other ingredients. Your experience is an extremely complex pattern that is currently giving shape to infinity and that is in a process of constant evolution until its destruction and restart. The infinite wants to get things out of itself, the most possible, in perfect harmony, because it loves itself (yes, woowoo), for a very simple reason: it is the infinite, what else is it going to do? can only do one thing: be. and that is what is happening right now and always.

Yes but what is absolute is the substance of the reality, so at the end, the relative is the absolute. The change is apparent because the substance is always the same. Infinity is what reality is. It has infinite possibilities of manifesting itself in different reality structures, but really it is always the same, it cannot be anything else, since it is always total infinity. Enlightenment is realizing fully and really what you are, which is the absolute infinite, it is not something thinkable, it is something to which you have to open yourself and it has to manifest. You, the avatar that wants to open itself, the only thing you can do is create the most favorable conditions possible for this to happen. lighten, give yourself, open. empty the cup to be filled, as it's said. This is absolute, because what you are is.

I think that reality is an infinite well that moves cyclically. As you have said, its essence is what we could call love, joy of existing, glory. This infinite well is a horizon of possibilities, everything is possible but any structure that appears must be coherent, perfectly balanced. Reality is intelligence in evolution, the experience that is taking place now and which you call "i" is of unimaginable complexity. the experience of two protons bonding is, and so on until reaching a human brain. Everything must be perfect, balanced, the ying and yang extracted from the infinite must link together and dance in perfect harmony. There cannot be a universe of happy pink unicorns, it would collapse. For cosmic stability to occur, the entire puzzle must fit together perfectly, and for it to do so, one piece of the puzzle must be the child with cancer, the Nazi holocaust and all that. The evolution towards greater complexity, towards completing the perfect cycle, demands it.

This logical doesn't work. What about the children with cancer?

Agree with that. It is possible to let suffering slide over you, it is like a game, suffering locks you in and you must find a way to get out. It only leaves you one option: freedom Possible, but not easy I found adyshanti very shallow, and when reading, I noticed a certain smell of scam, kinda trying to create a sensation of mystery, creating an enlightened archetype, and his speech is lacking in life, flat. But you never know.

I call suffering what I would experience, for example, if I was locked in a 2x1 m room at 35 degrees in the dark for 5 years. Life has enormous push. This thrust has two motors, one positive and one negative. The positive is the will of being. the negative is to escape from suffering. Suffering is real and very powerful.

Yes, with the difference that the only one who can eradicate the terror from his mind is the individual. then all that toxic ideology is deactivated.

So what do you do when barbarians invade your village and enslave your children in a brothel according willber? Get free your emotions, do an oath, dedicate your life to revenge, you torture them one by one and all that? In the end there is no difference, you cannot escape your humanity, you can park it at certain times if circumstances allow it. The thing is, you cannot avoid suffering in certain circumstances since that is your nature. The Buddhist idea is: renounce your humanity, your nature, and there will be the end of suffering. This is probably true, but I can't help but see avoidance, fear, in it.

??? Great Suffering is part of life, the end of suffering is a utopia perhaps achievable by avatars who have completely transcended their humanity and are sitting drooling without caring about eating or starving. Would you like to get to that? For me, a normal amount of suffering is acceptable, even desirable. What's wrong with suffering sometimes? What is bad is suffering absolutely all the time, like many humans today, with anxiety always active in the background. No other living being lives like this, they suffer in specific moments, when they are hungry or in pain, not 24/7 even dreaming of suffering trapped in the nightmare of the ego.

You could do activities that come close to the suffering of torture, an intense boxing match has nuances, running 120 km in the desert, sailing alone bordering Antarctica. You can do those things, really. You have to start little by little, and increase the load. until you can endure real levels of suffering. everyone should have some exposure to real suffering, to be able to handle it

This seems very difficult for now, but who knows. So far no awakening movement has done anything, but perhaps if the systematic use of psychedelics for this purpose becomes popular, this will change. People are looking for new horizons, 20 years ago traveling to remote parts of the world was the super adventure, now it is...meh, yes, the typical thing that boring college students with some money do. Maybe in 10 years taking 300 ug of LSD and then vaping 5 meo 3 times in a row after having been at a meditation retreat for a week will be something common, and a lot of people will be seeking real awakening.

Suffering has a function, it is the most powerful engine for evolution. Without suffering there is stagnation. Life wants to evolve, increase in complexity, in consciousness, and for this it invents suffering, a perfect tool. Every living being suffers, and suffering pushes it to seek a solution, then evolve. The collective human mind is a living being in evolution, and suffers a lot in many fields, and therefore evolves at great speed. It seems that it is in a phase of extreme evolution and therefore his suffering is enormous. Seems certain that the suffering of the Paleolithic collective mind would be several orders of magnitude less. Probably when this evolution reaches a plateau phase, the suffering will decrease, and being spiritually awake will be normal for humans.

@BlackPhil Your way of approaching spirituality has worked very well for more than 2000 years, Christians and Muslims have exploited it thoroughly. It is about promoting terror as a form of domination, to subjugate humans. Today there are billions of people terrorized by abusers of your kind, who hate freedom. It is a serious disease that should be eradicated.

So God has created us with that nature so that we can be punished with hell, except for the very slim possibilities of knowing Jesus. This god causes quite a lot of fear, he looks like a demon

I would say that the confusion with this issue is qualitative. People say: awakening is realizing that you are God and you are creating reality. Well, that may be so. It could also be that you are a lawyer and have a trial tomorrow, these are things that happen. But realizing what you are is not realizing what you do, who you are, it is opening yourself to what you really are, it is something more from the heart than from the mind. It is like you have forgotten what you are because thousands of characteristics cloud it, for example the fact of being God and creating reality, but if you remove all that structure, what you really are remains. what anything is, since the unlimited infinite has a quality that is indefinable, it can only be and in the fact of being it is all possible understanding, which is the understanding that you are unlimited, everything else is derived understandings of this essential understanding

If you do that, then it is falsehood, but the point is not to do it, but to have a real openness now completely free of conceptualization. There comes a time when even if there is no opening there is also no conceptualization, since you have seen so many times that reality is not conceptual that you stop that activity completely.