Breakingthewall

Mysticism today is perhaps more widespread than ever thanks to psychedelics. but maybe less because the way humans are in the world today is very different from how it was. Now the human is not in the world directly, everything is indirect, no human today is free, he is not in direct contact with life and death, he lives and dies indirectly, absorbed by the mind of the collective ego. God have been changed by the other humans.

Exactly, I believe that this is the path and the only way for open states to be the most important thing in your life is to achieve those states, then there is a feeling that these states are reality, and normal reality, a shadow . It is still pleasant to earn money, sex, friendship, love, are necessary as a human, but reality is openness, that is being awake, the normal states, asleep. but not asleep in the sense of not knowing that you are god or anything, but veiled by a curtain of mental flow. In awake states the curtain disappears, reality comes to life, depth. is magic. then, open yourself to life and magic that reality is the main thing. You will not find that life in anything, not in human love, not in your work, not in any passion. All that is beautiful, but it is on another level. at the level of the human psyche, since the mental flow is not just articulated thought, it is all the layers of the psyche, something evolutionary, what makes you human and makes you a door that prevents the vision of what you are. Having these states shows you all the attachment you have, and makes it easier for you to let go because you realize that it doesn't matter what happens to you. In the same moment that you are in the psyche again, matter a lot. But the realization remains

Yes, they could, They just have to make a revolution. The Chinese put their emperor to work as a gardener, the Muslims should parade figures of Muhammad in the gay parades around the world, and stop being so incredibly stupid

Yes I know, The Chinese are also an ancient culture, the Indians, the Romans, the Greeks, there are many, but they are evolving towards more openness, not less. Only Muslims are stuck that way. All other cultures are alive, Islam is dead, it is a zombie that seems alive but is not.

Oneness is a perception of the self. That is to say, if you have mystical states, then the self comes and perceives them as if those mystical states happen to him, which is the only one there is, but that is because the self is still there, as the center of the experience. infinity is not one because it has no center

Yes, but of the more than 80 million Iranians, how many are those sophisticated people you speak of? the majority would vote for the Islamists for fear of going to hell. In the West we have had the Enlightenment, Protestantism, the French Revolution and Communism that have helped us free ourselves from those chains. Muslims do not seem given to that type of revolution for now, although it would be important for them to make them.

solipsism is false, reality is not one. If you open yourself completely and break all your limits, the total reality manifests itself obvious, unlimited and magical, but not one. How can be one what has no limit? one is a limit

Muslims choose the radicals because the average Muslim feels increasingly identified with radical Islam. The Islam do not look to the future, they are stagnant, burdened by the chains of their religion, more concerned with appearing to be good Muslims to their neighbors, doing Ramadan and covering their women/slaves as much as possible than with evolving as a society. Without dictatorial regimes, radical Islamists would take power, moderates are seen as corrupt cowards, sold out to the west.

Chinese are too smart to do anything that could be wrong for their business. They love business much more than they love Taiwan.

Usually they serve to scare people, lock them in closed belief systems, limit their ability to open up, make them hypocritical, false and twisted. The problem is that the other option is the Western one, which pretends that death does not exist and that life is a playground, a timeline in which you try to have a good time and watch a lot of audiovisual content.

Yes, but Seems that china could intervene in this. It is rare that they positions itself without reason. Just diplomatic, but with weight

It's not the same, taiwan is like hong kong, it's a political county but they are the same nation. They don't want to expell the taiwanese from the land and settle Chinese, it's a huge difference

Sure, At that time you couldn't say: I am a mystic, I realize God, and Islam or Christianity is falsehood, or irrelevant, you have to appear as a religious person that believes the dominant religion. If not, nobody would listen to them, and probably They would be killed There are many Muslims thinking in that? Because in the west I just know those on this forum.

Spirituality is largely understanding what it means to be human, what are the chains that bind you, that keep you trapped, in a miserable state, afraid of other people and the human condition in general. If you want to move forward you must see this and go through that fear. So, if you no longer fear others, your feeling towards them is better, just as your feeling towards the present moment is better and you can open it if you do not fear what may happen to you. but both things are very difficult, the fear is real and it is there for a reason, especially the fear of what could happen to you, it is difficult to let go, let go of the tension

It is an intolerable shame that a nation in 2023 is stealing ground from another nation that is there since 2000 years. The united nations must stop this shame. It's not the same than Ukraine, Donbass is Russia. Maybe China will take a step forward and want to arbitrate this and thus begin to show its weight.

Do you think that for a spiritual awakening you must have passed a religious stage? I don't know about other religions, but I would say that there are very few serious Christians who evolve into something more.

But are most Muslims from the rigid side, or are there many open-minded? The Christians I know are quite closed-minded, with puritanical habits, quite repressed. What happens is that in the west there are really very few, I'd say that 80% or more of the people are indifferent to religion. It is all more a matter of social ethics, of moving towards a better society, not of obeying God. Spirituality in the West is minimal

Exactly, it's impossible to avoid that. It's possible to be en those states just for some moments. but really, a while every day would be enough, because they leave a long inertia

Interesting. It is an unknown Islam. The image that those of us who do not live in Islamic countries have of Islam can imagine what it is: rigidity, chains for the soul, beings repressed, afraid of appearing as sinner don't doing Ramadan, false and full of prohibition, fear of women, mental torture.

whatever, they are opening levels. It is not realizing that this is God or a miracle, that is the self that realizes things and is amazed. openness is being open, nothing is miraculous because it is simply existence, there is no other existence less miraculous. nor god either, it is the living depth that you are, it is opening yourself to the now in a total way, completely removing the human that thinks that something is god, or is infinite, or is whatever, that self that thinks disappears and this is the total depth of existence.

Who cares if the others exist or not? Those are conceptual stories, things that are thought. The things that are thought are just things that are thought. Reality is not thinking real things, it is putting thought aside. The others are just the others. They exist as everything else. What is everything else? You can't think in that, it's non conceptual. It's another language, another dimension, not the dimension where it's you defining things. That dimension is the mental dimension and it's just like a layer, a bubble that encapsule you

It is precisely the opposite, you have to step away and the living reality manifests itself. It is not a perspective, it is reality beyond form and perspective.

I don't understand why Ibn Arabi has remained in the Muslim tradition, there is absolutely nothing Muslim about him. Islam is absolutely inflexible, hard, programmed, full of rules, it restricts people, women must be a certain way, men another, everyone dress the same, pray at the same time, say the same things, not drink alcohol, not eating pork, all that, and I would say that ibn arabi was a free guy, not a slave

T What brings me back to contracted states, as you say, is the need to think about reality, the need to think about the material future constantly and to talk with people. To reach awakened states I need a lot of meditation time and sometimes some weed or LSD low dose. the entire afternoon in a park for example, with some stops to look at this forum. In the end sometimes I achieve states of total amplitude, something incredible, maximum. nothing is comparable, that's why I look for them. Also with 5meo dmt, but short and deep, not for stable openess, openess is with meditation. but then I return to my normal life and it is inevitable to return to a normal state, with my mind in constant movement. Living in a non-dual way seems impossible to me, bringing that to normal life.... how do you relate to people? The moment I interact with someone i fall into a mental state, talking, spinning thoughts. In the moment that i work or start to think about work, the same. Now thinking all time about society, the war,the human condition, how the humans are. That absorb the mind, it's like: ok, open states are wonderful, but first I have to understand what is a human

Hate is our only enemy. For us the whole world is One. I am not on earth to sow war and enmity. Love is the mission and vocation of all life. Let a single word stop the war: "Love and be loved." We feel hate towards no one. Everyone is equal to us Yunus Emre.