Breakingthewall

@Princess Arabia It is not like that, you are not alone, this is an idea, a mental structure, reality is not like that. Infinity is not alone, it is an unlimited ocean, it is not something personal, with a center. Being alone is something personal, since there is a center, the self, that is alone. This is precisely the illusion. There is no center, there is no perceiver of reality who is alone, that is the appearance that must be broken to open to freedom. Freedom is the disappearance of the self, and without self no one is alone, there is only absolute total infinity.

Imagine that they accept and free the hostages. after what? Israel has declared war on Hamas, it cannot stop it because of the hostages. Hamas knows that this proposal cannot be accepted and makes it to show public opinion the evil of Israel. hamas is run by very intelligent people it seems

Of course there are many moderate Muslims, but it is a fact that the Muslim world is becoming radicalized, 10 years ago in Morocco there were less women with hoods than now. The normal Muslim, the average guy on the street, was more indifferent to religion and the repressive customs of Islam 25 years ago than today. I don't know what the cause is, I guess it's a mix between the Internet and wars. Islam is a very clear religion that leaves no room for interpretation, it tells you what you have to do and warns you that otherwise you will go to hell, and if you obey you will go to paradise. Both are described explicitly, without abstractions. Islam is explicit, not abstract, so the internet has made many see what Islam really is, and many people believe in it and truly fear hell and desire paradise.

There are many problems with the Islamic people in Mali, Nigeria and more places, although I doubt that they care about Israel. Many European jihadists are Moroccan, like those who blew up trains in Madrid in protest against the invasion of Iraq.

The Islamic people see everything as a competition, the Islamic team against whatever team, and they cheer for their team. A way to cheer is to stab people downtown and stuff. For them everything is wounded pride, it is a primitive ideology, like that of the Christians of the year 1300. It is a problem for coexistence in Europe, at any time in Holland or France a party will win that has in it's program of banning mosques, considering Islam a toxic ideology, submission of women, etc, so The muslims will react, and perhaps there will be a very serious crisis

yes, it's that's how it is. Israel is an expansionist and aggressive country, if it were not, it would not exist. which would be much better for everyone, but the fact is that it exists. a great misfortune for those around him, this is always the case when a bubble of life emerges in the middle of any place . The question is what to do to soften their impact as much as possible, since making them disappear is not an option. The unpleasant thing about Israel is that it is new with an old identity, it is something strange, not natural. some kind of aberration that needs the support of US and that causes great imbalance around it and that tests the supposed morality that underpins Western civilization. Does that moral exist or is it just an excuse, an elegant suit over the usual essence, which is survival?. we will see

It's apartheid because Palestinians cannot vote in the Israeli elections, they also do not have the same rights as the Jews in the occupied territories, they can be abused and murdered with almost impunity. But in the vote issue it cannot be any other way because otherwise Israel would disappear, and if they are allowed to be a sovereign state, you are creating a sovereign state whose basic principle is your destruction. It's one thing to be good and another to be stupid. If the problem were simple, it would already be solved, but it is extremely complicated. If we add to that that so many years of fight produce more and more fanatical Jews, the problem is impossible. Foreign mediation, especially Muslim, is essential, like what Saudi Arabia tried to do, and Iran prevented, to avoid war on a larger scale

If Israel were not expanding, it would be the party that is completely right in this conflict, but by expanding it justifies Hamas as legitimate defense. The big problem is that it cannot stop expanding because it seems that it is full of Jewish fanatics who have the project of a great Israel with biblical borders. This equates both sides as aggressive fanatics.

I mean to displacing the Palestinian population and building new settlements for Jewish settlers. It is an aggressive attitude that seems to have the goal of taking over the entire West Bank at some point. It is true what you said about allowing a Palestinian state. war between the two countries would be almost certain, but stole their land legitimate the terrorism

It is a totally valid point of view. The problem is to continue colonizing the West Bank day by day. How is this justified?

That happened in 1947. Is it a reason to continue occupying their lands now? How do you justify expansionism in the West Bank?

@Nabd I just read about the Sabra massacre that nadbd mentioned before where 3000 Palestinian civilians were murdered by christians, rapes, children with crushed heads, castrated men, scalp. nothing new. Well yes, the fact that the images have been diffused. I have had an emotional and hateful reaction quite serious when I saw it, but the reality is that it is something absolutely common

I don't think so. It is not known how Israeli soldiers will behave in a real war scenario. They are normal guys born in a first world country, with all the comforts, with a lifetime of possibilities ahead of them, not fanatics eager to go to paradise. Getting them into an ambush war in a city can go wrong, although they may behave bravely, it's impossible to know. Better to pave the way as much as possible

probably. Hamas plays with Israel as if it were a puppet. They are doing exactly what Hamas want. If they intend to scare Hamas with violence, it is impossible, since this is their objective, the more deaths the better, more radicalization, more evident Israeli evilness in front of the world. I bet they will free the hostages at some point and they will say: they treated us politely, they just want the freedom of Palestine. The guy organizing all this seems like a smart demon.

disappearance of Gaza, return of the occupied territories, economic compensation to Palestine and closure of borders.

The question is whether that alternative is going to eliminate Hamas. another alternative is selective elimination, very difficult, but at least it doesn't destroy a city without any results. There are 2.5 million people. What are you going to do with them? How do you know who is from Hamas? who is going to tell you? I know that Israel must do something, it cannot remain passive, but I don't know what would be best.

I don't think Israel knows what it is doing, they are improvising in a situation of trauma that is softening as the days go by. They saw the need for an immediate and strong reaction, but as time goes by, minds become balanced and they will see that the destruction of Gaza is useless and works against them. We will probably see a cessation of bombing soon. It would be the most reasonable thing since it will only bring them problems without any benefit, and the scale of revenge is already more or less balanced.

This is similar to the towers. The Islamists, with minimal expenditure, stir up the hornet's nest and then sit back and wait. The stupid bear begins to blow at everyone except them, who laugh watching it and see its objectives achieved: radicalization of Islam, division, war.

How many Hamas militants will be captured? how to identify them? probably few. The destruction of Gaza is an operation of revenge, which is exactly what Hamas seeks, to make the world see the evil of Israel. In the end, Hamas wins. It is not a problem of morality, but of meeting objectives. Hamas' objectives are met, Israel's are not. The world will forget the killings in the kibbutzs in comparison with the disaster in Gaza What do you think of expansionism in the West Bank? What would be the solution to that problem?

The problem is that if Israel wants to do that, it would have to destroy all the buildings in Gaza, or a large proportion. For them, the inhabitants must be evacuated, where will they go? An exit would have to be enabled for the refugees. How to differentiate the civilian population from the Hamas militiamen among these refugees? Hamas is not interested in direct combat, only terrorist actions . They will be hidden among the population. So, what will be the level of success of this operation?

Yes, an intolerable level of injustice and abuse, which the US unconditionally supports, and which causes humiliation to all Muslims in the world and leads to the radicalization of Islamic countries. American foreign policy is one of great evil. There is only one objective, profit, and fuck the rest. As Nuland said, fuck Europe, and she could also say, fuck everyone except us. That's the philosophy of USA. US has been a positive influence and is a great country but more and more he seems like an obese child who wants all the candy for himself, with absolutely nothing else on his mind.

Because deep down, the Israelis, with some exceptions, are Zionists, and they want "the great Israel" that is, all of Palestine, the biblical limits. because you think they have never accepted the two-state solution and have almost never dismantled settlements. If they do, a mass of Hamas-level fanatics will arise, but Jews who think that their divine mission is the expansion of Israel. There are guys like that within the government. they are crazy, that's why there is a war. It's not a war for resources like Ukrainia, it's a war for tribal identities, religious craziness

Thats impossible That's the only possible solution, but it's also impossible, sadly

Yes, it is clear that you are on Israel's team because it is your side, so everything Israel does is fine, and when they repeat here 80 times the issue of expansion in the West Bank, you tiptoe over it, since it is not convenient to maintain your line of thought, you do not investigate it, you are not interested in that. You only focus on Hamas murders, and because of them you see it as justified to cut off electricity and medicines in a hospital. well, it's typical, this is why the world is the way it is

You can condemn the actions of Hamas and at the same time condemn the fact of cutting off electricity, water and medicine in a big city. If Israel were not being watched, we would see what treatment the "human animals" would receive.