Breakingthewall

Reality is both. The still absolute being and the movement. No one is more real than the other. The change is not lees real because it changes, because in essence it's just change, so it's absolute . The question would be: what the change is?

One thing is realizing what reality is, and another penetrate in what reality is. Yes, I understand what to you mean with enlightened. It is realizing what you are, what always is. what always is is: being. obviously, you always are. This is, let's say, the foundation of beginning to realize what you are. It is the master line, the being without any identification, this, now, what is. Surely, without realizing this, you are lost, in perpetual motion. Being is always now, this moment encompasses everything, it is infinite. Ok, but this moment has depth, and that depth is veiled. The first step is to realize what you are without what arises. then penetrate into the essence, into the quality. It is not just being, it is much more. Intelligence is not within the being, it is the being. life too. They do not occur within the being, they are inherent, and they are deep and alive, as absolute as the being. The change is absolute, same than the immutability, they are the two faces of a mirror, because change is always changing.

your will and your drive are the will and drive of reality. This is reality, what you are, and it does what you do. You exist, you flow like an emergent in the ocean of reality, your conscious will is just the tip of the iceberg, but it is real and creates pressure where it points.

and order coffee in a coffee shop? Because for me, working 12 hours a day, 6 days a week for a shitty salary, well... before that, maybe I would opt for prostitution if it was well paid.

Of course, I'm available to be drilled, called liar, insane, deceived, etc, then I would answer trying to develop my position to be understood. I may be completely wrong in everything I say, but two things are certain: what I say comes from direct vision and if it is mental speculation I usually say it, and I don't lie to appear to be more than I am

If you say that for me, you show small perception. I'm zero touchy, I just like to drill in the psyche of the people to see inside them. It's not easy, people have many layers. So some "touches" sometimes are necessary.

What do you mean? For working and that? Of course, but not for , let's say, spirituality. Spirituality is a matter of opening to the real thing. Just removing barriers. The logical mind is necessary at the beginning because we have mental patterns that blocks, but when you can empty your mind easily of ideas about what you are and all of that the thing become more energetic, it's an act. Something like see the face to the abyss and say: yes, kill me. Psychedelics are necessary at first in most cases, then you change little by little your energetic configuration and the door become less solid (Paragraphs, thanks)

Absolutely zero interest. Any teaching is in the realm of the logical mind. I'm not trying to transcend the logical mind, but I can open it at will almost every day and perceive directly, then I hear a guy say things about what I am and so on, and it's like reading a book about how to have sex when every day I spend 3 hours fucking. Anyway, Im not going to argue, I just wanted to correct a bit to waterriver because he is limited since I can perceive and he can confuse the people with this security about being enlightened. So now maybe the people could think....well, maybe he is "enlightened". Much better than: ohh now I know exactly what enlightenment is: I'm imagining the reality, that is a dream

Reality is infinite, this means that it can be said that it is one, since there is not outside , and that it is multiple, since there is no limitation in the Infinite. everything that the infinite "contains" is in turn infinite and contains the infinite. I say contains in quotes because nothing is contained within infinity, since there is no inside or outside. It's infinite, that's it. The direct consequence is that nothing can be finite, any fragment of the infinite is the complete infinite. It is one because there is no other, even "one" is a limited idea, and it is multiple because it has infinite facets that are in turn infinite and are apparently separated but really synchronized and being a whole. They are all "the same" infinity, "the same" doesn't mean any definite, but the substance that arises due de absence of limits, the source, the intelligence alive, the life, the love as leo says ,any word, you can be open to it and perceive what it is. In the end all this comes down to one thing: you are the infinite, simply open your perception and be the total absolute infinite for a few moments. Yes yes, you already are infinite now, but your perception is closed, that is the design. You can't fly, or make your penis grow to two feet long, or break out of your pattern of existence, but you can see and you can open yourself to the flow of the source.

Hahaha good to know.its bit different than:" I admit that some psychedelic can be a great tool to real opening", but it's ok. I can't, I tried, but really make me so bored and almost sick that I can't stand even 5 minutes, the same than 99% of the spiritual content. That Roger tisdell at least was bearable because he talked about real meditation, but massaro is talking about things like: purify yourself of what you are not, etc. neti neti, that is totally misunderstanding in my opinion, he's working in the land of the mind, I'm taking about real opening to the alive infinity. You feel better making some subtle mockery about it, because it's not totally aligned with the tradition? Mistake. Would be better consider that maybe I'm talking in a deeper frequency. Just the possibility. For me it's quite obvious by the way😅. Take Leo's alien thing for example. In my opinion Leo was operating at the, let's say, Buddhist level. That is to say, reality is imaginary, I am the field of consciousness, aka god according to him, and I am the creator of reality, and at a given moment he has had a kind of opening to what is real and is processing it, we will see how. Real/imaginary duality, the same thing you say, the same thing that traditional spirituality says: reality is an illusion. They say that it isn't duality, but it is. You don't realize that this is absolutely toxic, it's a lie. only someone who has not realized the living infinity does not realize the living reality. reality, creation, the cosmos, or whatever you want to call it, is not imaginary, it is absolute. It is as absolute as the infinite void where it occurs, because it does not occur "in" the infinite void, there is no "in" in the infinite, because it is infinite, it is obvious. They are two sides of an infinite coin. The living infinity is the living unfathomable empty abyss, the absolute being is also the cyclical infinite cosmos in eternal evolutionary rotation. There is no one true and one false, there is no something immutable true and something mutable false, there is infinite living, that's it. It's empty because being infinite everything became nothing, just alive existence. It's full because everything arises due the absence of limitations. There is nothing to know, only one thing: open your being completely to the living infinite, be it. not "realize" what you are, but open to what you are. It is not receiving an understanding, an enlightenment, it is an act of opening, taking a step forward and leaving the psyche behind, which is the door that closes, and opening yourself to the unlimited. The unlimited lives as is obvious, it is intelligence and absolute creative power. Openness is to stop closing your being to it and allow it to flow through you and clarify your perception, making it unlimited. Be totally honest, do you perceive some limitation? Is your perception really unlimited? Open to all the dimensions? Because I perceive clearly limitation in you, padawan 🤣🤣. Sorry, jocking, but maybe I'm not 100% wrong, it's a possibility

Just 1 puff to help the opening. You think it's not legitimate right? That's why you use sarcasm to put down what I said, what it says about you?🤔🤔🤔 Well, you think that the substance of existence is an illusion. As do you like old quotes, if I remember correctly Christ said: I am life. It's great to have a mind that can be open to the unlimited, but without a heart that can be open to the real substance that the alive infinity is, it's still sleeping mode. The interesting thing here starts when you are open to the creative power,

@Water by the River you know that you are infinite, but you don't know what infinity is, you didn't open to it. My advice would be....well I'm sure you can imagine. It starts with 5. Not always works but in you case, I would say that surely yes (not one trial, maybe 30 or more). You ve nothing to loose.

No, dream is a definition, dreamer too, you can't being a definition. You are infinite and that's it. Then you open yourself to what infinity means. It's pure life. Change or no change means nothing. It's another frequency, another dimension

You don't understand! The clouds are not about what I am. I don't think about what I am even for a second, I try to open myself to the substance, and there are degrees. Same to being open to the fact of being unlimited. If you are doing something, you close yourself in that thing and you perceive yourself as limited. Maybe you know that you are unlimited, but you perceive a work that you are doing and that's it. You need to do some meditation, and you perceive the unlimited completely, and then you can be more or less open to it's flow. But one thing is sure in that moment: you are the total existence alive and you feel it's power, nothing more is needed, no false and true, the infinity eats every difference, nothing can't be finite, since it's a part of the infinity alive, it's the infinity alive.

Seems like that yes. Without any doubt. Infinity is infinity, and anyone who think that there is something "no true" in it didn't understand at all, he's closed to the real thing.

Neti neti is just a game for the mind, my mind is totally empty of any identification, if I do neti neti, there is nothing to say, I'm talking about the fact of open yourself to the alive unlimited. The real thing. An act of opening.

If the dreamer is infinite, the dream is infinite. If the dreamer is real, the dream is real. If the dreamer is alive, the dream is alive. Because it's infinite. You just have to see it. It's the absolute joy.

No! Temporary means nothing! It's infinity 😅🤣. You didn't perceive the most important thing. Everything is alive, infinity is life , being open means being open to the power of the infinity. If you are totally open ,you die. Reality is not a movie, it's pure life, you don't see this essential aspect of reality. Being open to the amplitude, to the abyss is one thing, but the important thing is being open to it's substance. Everything is alive, intelligence is flowing infinitely now, its what you are, not just an screen

I find it often in a absolute way, and it's transparent all time. That's enlightenment? Well, then I'm enlightened, but I assure you that there are degrees, I can't be totally open to my true nature all time, some veil is necessary. It's doesn't mean that I'm breakingthewall then the infinity, it means that I ve a limitator in the mind that closes , the thing is to equalize your person, your life , to can be the most open possible, but I'm always the same. What I don't know is why there is that energetic pattern that my structure is now , and how it happens, but I think it's possible to see deep . What you suggested is to know what you are. Know means nothing, it's a matter of opening or closes

Btw, thanks friends What you say is exactly the same as saying that everything is real and exists now, and that there are infinite bubbles that really exist, since they are all the living infinite, it is absolutely real, so whatever form it takes, that is, all of them, They are absolutely real and alive. Division don't make the infinity less alive or less real. Everything is infinite and exist, contain the whole infinity in itself

@Water by the River Everything I have said are ideas that really, I don't know if they make sense. What is absolutely real is what I just experienced now with 1 hit of weed and meditation: I have looked into the face of the abyss, and in a moment, I was the abyss. the total living infinity. It is and that's it, what does it matter what arises? absolutely nothing, it is completely irrelevant, what matters is that I am the living infinite existence. That's it, there's nothing more to know, nothing else has any importance

Then you are imagining the others, trees and humans, and only you exist🤔🤔 Let's see, how I see it in open states (don't believe me, because who talks is the memory, the mind,) is that what I am is a bubble of limited perception. if this bubble is momentarily broken, gets open, and there are degrees of that dissolution, then I stop being limited, until encompass everything, but to certain extent because you are what you are and you can't dissapear until you die. In that moment I cannot see trees nor do I know my name, I am not a person. , I am total, absolute depth, where everything is. This state cannot be maintained, you cannot walk or do anything, you have no body, it is a momentary dissolution. this absolute depth is both empty and full. It is empty because its infinite amplitude makes anything zero when it expands in it, but it is full since everything emerges automatically and inevitably from its absence of limits. Infinite bubbles emerge and being infinite, and they are all perfectly synchronized. This is what you really are and it is total, absolute, unstoppable. This state is total fluidity, you burn, you cannot maintain it, you disintegrate, it is carcinogenic or something like that. then the bubble returns. All infinity is contained within the bubble, but also outside the bubble since being a bubble implies being blind to what you do not see. It's not that the things are real when you perceive, it's that everything is veiled except what you can perceive. everything exists now, all the trees, which are infinite, are real, but your perception is finite. If you saw them all at same time, you would see the total emptiness that is full of existence that everything is, the absolute life that arises from the absence of limits. All the others, infinite others, are inside your bubble now, but you cannot perceive them, and you are inside their bubble, the infinite is inside and outside at the same time, one and multiple, bubble and totality. If the doors of perception open a bit, there are no limits but you remain the bubble, the emergent of existence in permanent synchronized movement that you are, until you die and your bubble of perception disappears and you are the empty whole and all the bubbles at the same time, and only a new bubble too. Infinity is incomprehensible, but it is real, nothing can not be, everything is real energy configurations, regardless of whether you perceive them, they are perceived. So what is awakened state for me? Perceive the flow, the intelligence that this moment is, the alive depth. I am totally wrong in my cosmovisión? It's extremely very possible, but the reality is that I feel the power and the intelligence all time and fills me of joy and power, so who cares about what reality is? The only important thing is be open to life, to the intelligence . It's a bottomless well from the glory arises, so the more wise is to turn off the mind and open the heart and be filled by the power . But in the background, sometimes more, sometimes less, I perceive the unlimited cosmos in its endless rotation. All this is subjective, it's stupid for me to be categorical, who knows anything? only one thing is certain, you are the flow of existence, open yourself to it and there are no more stories

This quote is that make me think about limitation. Maybe I'm wrong, but it cannot be an illusion, infinity by definition is everything, there is nothing that can be manifested or imagined, there is no field of consciousness where the imagined reality appears because consciousness implies separation between the one who is conscious and the object of the that being conscious, there is only the object, that same time is subject, which exists and existing is synonymous with consciousness. That quote is true in the sense that everything is the same: existence. Doesn't matter what appears, everything is just existence, but it's real Well, sorry for questioning your words before but it is necessary to avoid falling into dogma, perhaps they are true but for me they are limiting and any limit is perceived as a trap, toxicity. But anyway, your exposition is brilliant and profound, I am sorry for attacking what I have seen as false but it is a matter of instinct. Maybe in the future I'll think: this guy was completely right How can it be known? Where do you know people who is seriously interested in this? Would be interesting

I don't read spirituality at all, it's all toxic, just ideas that probably are wrong. Look, if there is no self, there is no limits, and in the absence of limits everything is, including the others. With his own conciousness, and the absence of others, do you understand? No because you can't understand the infinity making it finite. No others is finite. One is finite. Many is finite. The mind is finite, just drop the mind, turn off any meaning

@Water by the River I perceive some....how to say ... limitation. Let's see, i have let the self fall into the void absolutely and totally many times and the infinite has been obvious. There is no "alone" or "only" because everything is in infinity and there is no center, it is not me, the self is like an illusion created by perception, but the thing is that there is perception so there is self, reality it is an ocean that has no limit and that turns any "something" into nothing, since it is everything, including the self. This is not one, it is not unity, and above all and most importantly: there is no creation, nothing can be created, I am not God imagining anything, imagining is a process of creation and there can be no creation since everything is always, what What there is is movement of infinity, an impersonal kaleidoscope that moves cyclically and eternally. Maybe people who are in stage 5 are still limited? because for me there is something clear, I do not believe anything or anyone. I take everything with 2 kg of salt, anecdotal. There is a possibility that no one, ever, has been enlightened. Forget for a moment the stages, reality is not that square, no science can contain this that we are trying to open . Look, this of: I'm not anymore the avatar, I am the field of consciousness where the avatar is happening, like an illusion, is still limited, is still self.