Breakingthewall

The question is where the true will to serve ends and where the ego begins. It is very difficult to say, sadhguru seems authentic on the one hand, but on the other hand he treats people like children, he automatically places himself in a position of superiority, which many see justified, since he is an enlightened being, etc., but perhaps it is not so enlightened and has a big ego that is fueled by gratitude and admiration. is this impossible? For believers it is sacrilegious, but seeing how human nature is, it is quite likely. What I know is that he says a lot of strange statements, and seems that he tries to do paliative care for people, not real awakening, because they are kids not capable to reach so high lever, reserved for him

It seems that sadhguru has noble and authentic intentions, but that does not mean that he is not deluded. I would say that he has become deified. He has become a world celebrity, and he is still human. Lately he was saying strange things and with a false touch. Any human is susceptible to corruption, even without realizing it. People thought sadhguru is a demigod on earth, and I see a smart and ambitious guy with a normal level of awakening

@Karmadhi i know that it's not the same case, it's quite obvious, you don't need to describe the differences. What I meant is that when war starts, there is no consideration for damages. Israel coexists with a people who wish for its disappearance. There comes a time when the glass overflows, and it has arrived. If it were not for international public opinion, all Palestinians would be expelled in an extremely violent way. They have promoted a culture of hate, the basis of their thinking is: hatred of the Jew. This is how they educate their children and this is how they think. I'm not saying that they don't have reasons, there are always reasons, real or imaginary, but if your philosophy of life is hatred, you will receive double hatred. I just exposed a fact, not an opinion about who is right

It's paradoxical but the absence of limits has a limitation: it can't not be.

That's true. Lets say that it's quality is absence of limitations

It's like reality has two faces, one is total emptiness, and it is absolute, and the other is the cosmos and its eternal cycles, and it is also absolute, but really, the cosmos is an illusion of emptiness. It is always there, but really what it is is emptiness. What you are in the end is the void, not the form, the forms are like holograms in the void. The attachment to the form is very difficult to let it go, but I think that real awakening is to perceive that all forms are the same, and be open to it

I'm not saying that it's random, but that the difference between random and intentional is in the mind, and the mind is something that is happening within this experience, in this frequency or dimension. so it doesn't mean anything outside of this experience or dimension. Reality is what it is, let's say it is the place where this experience is occurring. If you want real awakening, you have to abandon the mind completely, open yourself to the total emptiness that exists and be it. You cannot bring questions because the questions are in the experience, so if there are questions you are in the experience. The same thing happens with the answers, they are only in experience. they don't mean anything. nothing means anything, just holograms that happen. sad? a little, that's why we return to the meaning again and again, but it is a mistake, total beauty is outside of meaning, it is the total glory of existence, and it means absolutely nothing.

Your worldview is just a worldview, the truth is not a worldview, is out of the world, out of the mind, it's just the reality

Yes, yes, we can talk endlessly about what happened a long time ago and give two completely opposite versions, and never agree, but there is one reality: war. In that it is the same as any other war, it is about defeating the enemy. Those on one side will say that they have countless reasons that make them right, and those on the other side will say the same. You are on one side and your point of view is absolutely obvious, and others see the opposite obvious. I have only said that it is a war, and it is the same as any war, two groups that hate each other over a dispute killing each other. In these cases what happens is that the strongest does what is necessary to deactivate the threat posed by the other Obviously Israel is in a extremely shitty position. If I where Israel I would leave that shit of desert and buy some lands in Africa and do a paradise very far of any Muslim, but it seems that for the Jews is absolutely vital to be there, so they are going to fight until death

Maybe you just imagined that and its a misunderstanding

all qualities are the same quality, the living depth, only they take different forms. If you know the living depth, you see it in all the qualities

I think that the cosmos is real in the sense that the infinite cycles are perfectly coordinated. cycles within cycles to infinity, all structures of enormous complexity completely meshed with each other. something unimaginable that only infinite intelligence can do. but there is no god creating, but intelligence moving, and its movement is this. There is no reason, just existence. The thing is to perceive the intelligence more than the thing. Not the meaning, just the substance

fear, sadness, shame, contraction of experience, experience folded into itself, bound by the mind, is an expression of total intelligence. It is something it does to create the human structure. The human structure is of great complexity, it is a work of art of coordination to function as a group. This requires very powerful layers of conditioned perception that are susceptible to folding back on themselves. In fact, it is the most common. The complexity is big and we get lost in the meaning when we should be focused in the depth

Sure, in everything is the absolute, in every sound or sensation, sight, thought. It's very difficult to see it in fear, desperation, pain, lonely and sadness but it's there too.

You can perceive it's quality since you are that. For that you must remove all the qualities that structure this experience, and open yourself to the total emptiness, then you perceive what you are.

It has a quality, a face. Everything seems different qualities but all are the same quality, it's life, intelligence . Or at least it seems so, maybe it's just a quality , but an absolute quality

That's a mental history. You do not know how reality is being created, if it is created, if it is planned. It's something you think about like you could think about something else, this has nothing to do with awakening. This history is an history into the form, doesn't mean nothing. Reality doesn't work in that dimension, there is nobody in backstage planning and hidden things. Reality is this, now, there is no a hidden god, it's only this moment springing from the intelligence that reality is, without ideas of games or hiding places, but it is only divine intelligence flowing in its infinite cycles. You can see it all time, not just in mystical experience, it's just the reality

The reality is that all Palestinians want the expulsion of the Jews and the disappearance of Israel, it has become part of their identity, an essential part at that. They educate their children in it and it is something that occupies a large part of their minds. It is almost a religion: hatred of Israel. You can do whatever you want and they will continue with it, so you, as ruler of Israel, will always try to destabilize and disorganize the Palestinians, since they hate you to death. You are not going to give any ease to those who hate you without remedy. You can make whatever friendly gestures you want, they will take them as weakness and hate you just the same. So, which is the smartest option?

That's true, but they have to show strength, if they show weakness, they are lost. The Muslims countries respect the strength, the violence and the cruelty, that's the language that they speak, if you want be respected by them, you have to demonstrate your will to fight without limit. If they perceive that you are a hippie pacifist, they are going to destroy you

@BlueOak The Palestinians demand the expulsion of the Jews from Israel, in no case do they accept the presence of the Jews in Israel, and they periodically declare wars and carry out attacks, so what is the solution? accept what they say and leave, or expel them

What else to do? Live with your enemies who wants to destroy you? Seems a bad idea

All of this is a need to label reality and it gets anyone to nowhere. What is sought is openness to the absolute that we are, total freedom, in the cleanest and most constant way possible, and for this, labeling is an obstacle. What we want is to see the infinite alive in everything, since everything is. For that we have to transcend the mind, and all that about God imagining a dream to live an adventure is in the realm of the mind, it is something that is inside the dream, outside of the "dream" it means absolutely nothing.

@Danioover9000 obviously it is not the same, it is similar in that it is a war. The Palestinians do not want peace, they want war and the expulsion of the Jews from Israel, then there is war, and the logical thing would be for Israel to expel all the Palestinians. They are already totally hated by the Palestinian and by all their neighbors, so they lose nothing and gain a lot. Yes, there is no solution, they aren't going to stop being fundamentalist, so it is impossible to live with them. Either you go or they go.

It is the same in the sense that two groups or nations have conflicting interests and this leads to violence, and once violence begins, the only important thing is to win, to crush the enemy so that he cannot attack you. It is already the fourth time that the Palestinians declare war on Israel, the normal thing in these cases is to be exterminated Israel now has only one thing in mind, show to it's enemies that attack them is a terrible mistake. That's the way to avoid more attacks, there is not another way

It's exactly the same, war. In all wars both thinks that they are absolutely right and they fight until death.