Breakingthewall

You have to know and understand how the mind limits you to be able to break the limits. If there is a limit, even a subtle one like that about nothing, it traps you

Because I know that any differentiation is a mental structure, and that are the limits. To be totally open to what it is, there must be zero structure

@Davino but maybe a moment arrives that I think that something was missing, you could be right.

That's a trap, limits you.

Empty your mind of meaning and open your perception, perceive the intelligence flowing, the energy arising, the perfection appearing

Exactly, that is an idea that frees

Any identification, idea , concept, about yourself immerse yourself in the mental world and limits you. But some ideas can suggest you the frequency to be, the step to do, to totally open yourself to yourself now, to be without limits

Maybe but I don't think that it's possible a deeper awakening than the absolute bottomless existence. And it's not perceived as god, creator, will, omnipotence, just absence of limits. Any possible god is an appearance, like anything else. The real thing is just the infinite abyss, and there is nothing to say or understand about it, just existence.

The truth is existence and there is nothing else, simply open to what is and be it now. There are words that help you be one with your true self, others that distance you from it. Yes, it is always what it is, but we get lost in the mind, it is very powerful and creates its own world.

@Davino I think the thing is simple: empty the mind completely of content, any spiritual idea is toxic, even the smallest. no mind, open perception, no expectation, remove any mental barrier, step over fear and look at existence directly, without any protection or barrier. any concept is a barrier. We have to be able to flow here and now completely, and that is an act of surrender. The first thing you have to surrender is the will to understand, the only will has to be to give, open, let go. At least it's the only way that I see, anything else is deception

I don't like the word God, because implies will and omnipotence, and I don't see it that way, I see incessant flow given the unlimited. God in the end is a false identification. The total reality is beyond God, since there is no agent or creation, there is inevitable movement of the infinite coordinated by the total intelligence that the infinite is inevitably. It depends, The psyche is cunning and grabs where it can. When someone hears: I am God and I created this dream out of love and because I was bored, then they go on a psychedelic trip and that idea that was in their subconscious appears as a real realization, for example There is end in the opening to the unlimited reality, and there is not end in the deep understanding of the form. But if someone starts the second without having achieved the first, he's going to be deceived

reality knows itself clearly and perfectly. eliminate any identification and the unlimited reality remains, that is what you are. The form varies, the reality does not, it is what it is, and that's it. Once this is seen, the matter of form comes. Why is it the way it is? This enters the realm of speculation. Those who talk about a god who creates dreams because he wants to or because he loves or because he has nothing else to do are speculating. My speculation is different, what I see is that reality, being unlimited, explodes in all forms and these are coordinated in a perfect and cyclical way since what it is is total intelligence given the absence of limits and it cannot be otherwise. The forms are images and at the same time they are deep and alive, because the existence is unlimited, so the forms ultimately are. You can go out of form momentarily but ultimately you are it. The forms are in movement and evolution, incessantly. You are an eternal cycle, I am another eternal cycle. There are infinite eternal cycles and they are all the same eternal cycle. Beneath them is what is, immutable in its infinite amplitude, that is the essence of reality, the form is its appearance. Both are infinite, absolute and ultimately they are one, that is what we are. much more complex than a god who does things for certain reasons, but same time simpler: just infinity. Being awake at the end means perceive what you are in all the possible forms. First removing all identifications and be what you are without limit, second, perceive what you are in everything, see that everything ultimately is the same, and be that as clearly and deeply as is possible given the form, for that you have to perceive the unlimited being without form and real depth of the form, the perfection of its alive structure

I see the process good, not delusional at all, perhaps difficult but that's how things are, a process of real opening, which requires restructuring, change at different levels. Could you tell more details about the LSD bad trip?

Leo's teachings are not teachings, they are Leo's realizations. You can have those realizations or others, it really doesn't matter. The important thing is if you can have genuine realizations, totally clean of any influence, direct, truly deep vision of reality. Any influence is toxic, it's a lie by definition. The mind must be totally empty to see directly . Are the Leo s teaching helping you to that? If yes, there are useful, it depends of the person I guess

I think anyone who gets serious about this game should know one thing: enlightenment is stopping identifying yourself with anything. For example believing that you are god is identification. What it is about is eliminating labels, grips, until there is nothing left, then your mind loses its limits, it stops being framed in a structure and expands. then you realize the basics: you are what is, pure, clean, empty of content but full of existence. That's it, you don't want to understand it because understanding it is inside it, not outside it, if you try you enclose yourself. This is the goal of spirituality, the liberation of the mind and the realization of what you are. then everything becomes diaphanous, clean. But of course, this later encounters obstacles. It is one thing to be the limitless reality in a moment of meditation or psychedelics and another to see this essence in your human reality. but if you see it with psychedelics or meditation, your being will start a chain reaction to create that opening in your human reality. These are not exotic states or great knowledge, knowledge is irrelevant, if there is any you see it as a curiosity without much importance. The important thing is to open your reality, that your being flows without limit now.

Really?? I am truly happy to read .I just know that the opening must be total. I don't achieve it easily, but the thing is that if you want that you have to forget about understanding, or at least it's how I see it. Maybe understanding is possible, but for now the goal is the opening and for that you have to drop the will of understanding, totally drop the self, renounce to everything (just for a while) and dissapear. Then you understand just one thing: there are no limits, and if you really understand that (im not understanding this now, only with my mind but not really) you start to understand the reality

For me, the 5meo point is something really intimidating and I have to do it again one of these days but I'm procrastinating a lot. It is the total rupture. It's something that doesn't always happen, there are times when you simply can't, even if you vape a lot. The thing is to disintegrate, to stop existing as you completely. There is not a trace of you left, only an infinite hole remains. This can be terrifying on a very high level, and absolutely wonderful. It's terrifying when reality is an empty infinite hole, and it's wonderful when you take one more step and the total void is you. zero structure, absolute being. Nothing else is sought with 5meo dmt, or at least I don't. What does this experience mean? nothing at all, it has no meaning. you have opened yourself to the formless. Because It is the beginning of letting go, of surrendering to reality and living in openness continuously.

That's why maybe you could access only when you reach a point when you truly realize that everything is just existence. You cannot judge or value, if you do, you are not one with existence and therefore you cannot delve into it and see. But first you have to reach a moment when you really are totally ready to melt completely into wholeness without reservation now. Almost no one can say this, at least I can't. If that happens, maybe you could see everything, but you wouldn't care about it, because for you everything would be the same: existence

It would be said that technological evolution is allowing humanity to emerge from the mud of the wild life from which it comes, and break the entire tendency of struggle, domination, competition, submission, comparison and war. It is a slow and difficult process, evolution moves creating events like the Second World War, although now it seems that the balance is leaning more in other directions. If science takes the leap that it seems to be attempting, we will see something never seen before. well, we're already seeing it. What humanity has achieved is a miracle, its evolutionary power is enormous, the intelligence of reality is working with all its power in us

I guess yes, in the sense that the pattern of existence of unimaginable complexity that we are in terms of form has an evolutionary continuity. Everything is the same substance but the forms are also something, and a similar form is a similar identity that evolves through the ages, in the cosmic cycles. Perhaps this evolution is interconnected and you can become aware of it. Many mystics have said it, but there is a lot of suggestion and deception too. You don't have to believe anything, but maybe you can see that what you are as a pattern of concrete form has a continuity much bigger that your actual perception. Maybe one day you have a mystical experience that shows you all the structure of the cosmos and all your evolution from when you were a basic form to the totality made form.

I would say that these values are the result of the evolution of thousands of generations together with the genetic structure of the human mind that evolves unstoppably in a subtle way. All the springs that make people be whatever they are point in an evolutionary direction, it is the push of the intelligence of reality that goes in one direction. for some purpose? I would say that the only purpose is to look for new ways to increase complexity and depth. so that? It is something like a plant, which develops because it is in its nature. It's impossible to understand it, or at least it seems. You can be open to it's substance , but the understanding is real? Seems always limited

The question would be: why are things the way they are? Why am I bound to the limits of this experience? Why can't I fly? What is the purpose of this cycle? People will say: if you ask this you are not awake. or: it is a dream from God to live an adventure. Yes, sure, someone said it, it sounded good, they took LSD and imagined that they understood reality . Id say that things are more complex, maybe impossible to understand

Maybe this sounds fool or the typical meditative history that doesn't works, but try to meditate with this mantra: "nothing means nothing". For me it deactivates the meaning of thoughts and you can spend 10 minutes without thinking absolutely nothing at all without effort, reality becomes fluid. If a thought starts to appear, think the mantra. You don't need to think it in its entirety, just know what it means and activate it, it's a fraction of a second. After a while it is not necessary, you have left the meaning, and with it your limits.

For me is quite similar. Psychedelics have allowed me to see energy blockages and completely release them. Without that it would have been impossible. The most useful has undoubtedly been 5meo DMT, but others too. Without psychedelics it is literally impossible, the energetic pattern that you are must be broken and rebuilt again and again, it takes some courage to do this, but when you see the path you do not hesitate. But once the trauma is completely resolved, your energy flows in an aligned and perfect way, that is when you can begin to truly open to what existence is, and what this human life is. They are also useful then. For putting an example, psychedelics can open you to a dimension of sex that is very difficult without them, and the same for many other things. once the inner restructuring is done, true perception begins

Really the question would be why psychedelics promote a deeper perception than sober, and why this is so. I think that because the normal human sober state is full of mental barriers and psychedelics dissolve them, but then if you have already done psychedelics 100 times, do those mental barriers still exist? it should not be like that. The objective is for the perception to be deeper and cleaner sober than with any psychedelic.