Breakingthewall

Let's look at the example of the Oslo Accords. Afterward, perturbed fanatic, Dr. Baruch, went to a mosque and killed 29 people. All of Palestine and the Muslim world in general took this act as proof of Israel's hypocrisy. The fact is that Israel absolutely rejected the attack and called it repugnant. But this justified a wave of terrible attacks by the Palestinians, which were approved by the vast majority of Palestinians and seen as heroic by the Muslim world. What do you think of this? They were right to respond to the mosque massacre with a wave of massacres, right? You're probably comparing it to the destruction of Gaza. This is selective blindness; it's completely different. Was a single fanatic, not an organization. Always there will be some fanatics.

They renounced violence, but there was more violence than ever. Look, there's a sector of Israel that seeks violence. Settler terrorism is a reality, and Smotrich and the other radicals support it. This is a fact, but these people are a minority in Israel. It's inevitable that there are radical lunatics on both sides, and there's no justification for a lunatic like that doctor who entered the mosque killing people, and whose tomb is now a site of pilgrimage. But if they have Hamas and the martyrs of Al Aqsa in front of them, then the only solution is total war. Imagine if Dr. Baruch massacres people in the mosque and then puts them in a van and makes a parade through Tel Aviv, while everyone cheers him hysterically? Then the condemnation of Israel would be absolute. Well, that's how it is in Gaza, and in a large part of the Muslim world, many people celebrated the September attacks. Perhaps for you, that's justified. So, in my opinion, you're part of the problem. Massacring innocent people without any purpose and then celebrating it as a success is simply celebrating hatred. No one celebrates the deaths of innocent people in Gaza; it's seen as inevitable to erase the malignant tumor of radical Islam.

@zazen There are radical Islamists in many places, not just in Gaza. Why is there radical Islamism in Sudan, Syria, Afghanistan, or Nigeria? There are no Jews nearby. Iran is radical Islamism, and Erdogan is an Islamist, but he's moving slowly because Turkey wouldn't allow something like Iran. There is radical Islamism in Europe, and in general, there would be in all Muslim countries if it weren't repressed.

@zazen By the way, using the example of the Spanish colonies demonstrates a childlike level of understanding. Those who rebelled were descendants of Spaniards, just like in the American War of Independence. Not the Aztecs; they no longer existed. Do you understand the difference? The Bulgarians were colonized by the ottomans for centuries. Did they teach their children suicide?

Then you don't justify, just you see that has a cause (legitimate) that are the conditions that give rise it. Is being bit liar right? Yes anyone who believes in Muhammad, paradise and hell is stupid by definition. Christians also believe in dogma, but nowadays they are minority who really believe, and also are stupid. Anyway Jesus weren't a warlord pedophile. It adds a plus of stupidity. And cause this: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPeEJL_DSAG/?igsh=NGJkbTNieWE5dGQx Anyway, what would you think about a country ruled by fanatic Bishops that forbidden women showing legs under death condemn? Well, as you are a liar, if it's in your side you would justify it Look liar, it's the Muslim voice NOW, after realizing that Israel is impossible to erase. Before, liar, the voice was total war against Israel. Can you understand the difference, liar? The Jews and south America never built is identity focused in hate, liar. They had independence wars, like the Indians, but even the American natives, who were really exterminated, never teach hate and suicide to their children. As you are a liar, for you it's the same, but it isn't Yes, and they rule Palestine, that's the problem, as you know, liar. I'm done with both of you, you are just liars that are defending your position because your origins, family, anything, is closer than this position than the other. If you were a Jew you would defend Israel with the same lies. No integrity. Zero value. Anyone who can see would be that obvious reality that regardless of the thousands of nuances and injustices committed, a society based on the cult of death, which teaches suicide as an essential value to its children, has no future. It must change of its own free will or be forced to do so. The Japanese were forced, the Aztecs too, and the Islamists will be. Watch those educative videos https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMc7LXbuKZ8/?igsh=MWN6bXdjZW8yNWgybQ== https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOlO27PE96c/?igsh=Z3ozYng1dnlodjQ= One final question: Do you think it was positive or negative for humanity that Buddhism existed or not? And Christianity? And advaita Vedanta? And the Aztec religion? And Islam? And Japanese empire? And Nazism? And Spanish expansion? And democracy? And American culture? And communism? Roman empire? Gengis peace? Are all the same? No one absolutely positive, but some more that others, and some of them quite negative . And nowadays Islamism...well. Islam has the chance of stopping being politic and become personal, Sufi. Let's see if they achieve it or become islamist, and that's a plague

@Raze Using Chatgpt for data is acceptable, but for moral and value judgement , it's an insult to intelligence. If you can't understand it it's impossible have a conversation with you. Settler terrorism is something extremely negative, no one doubts it. You should also condemn Palestinian terrorism, not justify it. The Palestinians must absolutely abandon violence, and from there begin to achieve things. The first thing they would achieve would be a change of government in Israel, and the second, a state. Then coexistence and development as society. But first they should want that. They want development or death and paradise? That is the question. This Palestinian thinks that they are focused in death https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9xQ3Vhp6yW/?igsh=czdoa3cwOWd0dHFq

Maybe you didn't know that Hamas got the power in 2005 Ask the imperial Japanese to be diplomatic. Maybe they would insert a katana in your anus after burn alive your daughters in front you just for fun . The Story of Wafa al-Bass Wafa Samir Ibrahim al-Bass was a young Palestinian woman from the Jabalia refugee camp in the Gaza Strip. In 2004, when she was about 20 years old, she suffered severe burns over much of her body after a gas cylinder exploded in her home. Her injuries were so grave that local doctors in Gaza could not adequately treat her. Through a humanitarian coordination channel, Israel granted her permission to cross the Erez checkpoint and receive advanced medical care at Soroka Medical Center in Be’er Sheva — an Israeli hospital known for treating both Israelis and Palestinians. Doctors there saved her life after months of complex surgeries and skin grafts. However, on June 20, 2005, something extraordinary and tragic happened. As she was returning to the same hospital for a follow-up appointment, Israeli security personnel at the Erez crossing noticed her behaving nervously during a routine check. When they examined her, they discovered approximately ten kilograms of explosives hidden in her underwear. Her plan, as she later admitted during interrogation, was to detonate herself inside Soroka hospital, killing as many Israeli doctors and patients as possible — the very people who had previously saved her life. The bomb failed to detonate because of a technical malfunction. Border guards surrounded her, and she began shouting, “I am not afraid to die. I came to become a martyr!” She was arrested before she could activate the explosives. During questioning, she explained that she had been recruited by members of the al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades, a militant faction linked to Fatah. They allegedly convinced her that her suffering and disfigurement could be redeemed through martyrdom, turning her personal trauma into what they called a “holy mission.” Her attempted attack shocked both Israelis and Palestinians. Israeli doctors from Soroka expressed disbelief and heartbreak that someone they had saved could try to murder them. Many Palestinian commentators, however, presented her as a “victim of despair and manipulation.” In 2005, Wafa al-Bass was convicted of attempted murder and sentenced to 12 years in prison by an Israeli court. She served part of her sentence and was released in 2011 as part of the Gilad Shalit prisoner exchange, in which over 1,000 Palestinian prisoners were freed in return for one Israeli soldier held by Hamas. After her release, she gave several interviews in Gaza, at first expressing pride in her attempted mission. Later, she gave more ambiguous statements, sometimes describing her life as “a tragedy used by others.” Analysis The case of Wafa al-Bass became symbolic for both sides: For Israelis, it illustrated the moral collapse of terrorism — turning even humanitarian aid into an opportunity for attack. For Palestinians, it exposed how desperation, propaganda, and trauma can lead a young woman from victimhood to self-destruction.

@Raze In Gaza, a radical Islamist group has been in power for 20 years, brainwashing its inhabitants from childhood with ideas of hatred and slaughter as essential human values. This philosophy has become widespread and makes coexistence between Israel and Gaza completely impossible. Gaza has an enormous population growth, a pressure pot of hatred and resentment that grows every day. They gave Israel the excuse with 7Oct, which was surely allowed by the IDF, and now Israel is cleaning up that infection, causing the fewest possible deaths, which is a large number of deaths. Who is to blame? I don't know. I know that a pressure pot of hatred that feeds on and incites children to immolate themselves is not viable and must be restarted, and the radical islamist erased. In my opinion the IDF should have continued the war until Hamas was eliminated, because what they've done is surrender and release 2,000 Hamas militants It's a victory for Hamas, which says yes to everything and will return to its own thing, which is death.

Because the Jews came to a depopulated area to bring prosperity and development, not to an overpopulated area with the idea of exterminating those living there. No one believes the Palestinians' peace plans; it's obvious they're maneuvers to get closer to their goal, which is to expel the Jews. It bothers you greatly that the Jews don't allow themselves to be sodomized. According to you, they should allow it.

I saw the first one, and the guy says what's happening is that people are being exterminated because they're considered subhuman. Why do you make me listen to this nonsense? Are you really that dumb? Don't you realize they're fighting radical Islamism,. something extremely serious? Seriously, those people are retarded. Like you with your ChatGPT judgements. Posting that is mentally retarded, don't you see? Well, of course not.

Sure. Your whiny, blaming view may strike you as morally superior, on the side of the victims abused by the abusive rich. But the world functions through adaptation, not resentment and crying. Let the Palestinians demonstrate their humaneness, let them produce high-quality leaders, not hate-filled, swindling sons of bitches living in hotels in Qatar, and then they will achieve things. This is a real Palestinian leader https://www.instagram.com/reel/DLHXhVuBhn3/?igsh=MXFwMDhtYTZzZ3dpNw==

Your posts are too long and angry. We all have attention deficit disorder here, keep that in mind. Regarding the peace proposal, it included the right of return. 700,000 people left during the Nakba, and around 6 million want to return. Do you think that's realistic? It's just impossible. Besides, Hamas and other groups rejected it completely.

These countries didn't exist until after the fall of the Ottoman Empire. This doesn't mean they should be fragmented, but we should understand what the Middle East was like before the English and French drew artificial borders in XX century

Could be a false statement, or a true one, the game is not over. The Middle East is a very complicated place. Israel has one goal, and that is to survive as a nation. Do you think it should disappear? It seems they've made a great effort; they're earning the respect of surrounding countries. And in doing so, perhaps they'll generate stability. If Israel didn't exist, do you think there would be peace in the Middle East? There's always war there; it's easy to blame everyone but yourself. How important are the Palestinians? Much more so than the Kurds? Or the Syrians? Or all those who are in war zones now? Why? Palestinians have built their identity on hatred. It's their core. You see that as absolutely justified; I see it as absolute stupidity. Different opinions. And seems that west now support the hate of the Palestinian.

The reality is simple: Israel has confronted radical Islam and destroyed Gaza. What have Muslim countries done? Nothing, and this in part because most agree with Israel. Only the mentally ill Iranians and the profoundly retarded Erdogan, who finance terrorists, in addition to Qatar, have timidly barked. Result: The odds are 10 to 1 that the Iranian regime will fall quickly and Erdogan will be crushed in the next elections. And let's see if they stop sending millions to the Muslim Brotherhood to annoy the Europeans. Most Muslim countries will applaud the fall of those clowns.

Then they should leave. What are you going to get with that ideas? Millions of deaths?

I don't hate Palestinian at all, I posted many videos of Palestinian that are smart and brave, open minded, like this https://www.instagram.com/reel/DLHXhVuBhn3/?igsh=MXFwMDhtYTZzZ3dpNw== But I see that it's impossible to coexist with the extremist, and a lot of them are absolutely extremist. What the Jews should do? Leave?

Exchanging the hostages for 2,000 Hamas terrorists saves the lives of those hostages, but at the price of how many deaths in the future?

The Palestinians weren't a state; they were tribal settlers of a territory. They shared that territory with Jews and Christians. Half a million Jews arrived, bringing development and wealth. They were given the opportunity to have a state and be full citizens in the Jewish state. They chose war, not once, but many times, constantly, with nothing to gain. They are absolutely stupid, but not all of them. This woman in the video is intelligent. The https://www.instagram.com/reel/DN28jU5wr21/?igsh=MWQ4ZWJ2azJ6bGNjNQ==

He understands well his society Shit you have the heart of a lion, You are right, if an alien society comes and says that this galactic sector is under their jurisdiction, but that I will continue to retain my properties, I will have citizen status and they will also bring technology that will make me immortal, I will say: no!!!!! in the name of Muhammad I will educate my children to commit suicide since nothing is more terrible than not being sovereign! I want to be subjected to an retarded Spanish dictator! Only he can sodomize me and put me in jail for 25 years for a comment on Instagram!! But they're not aliens. They're Jews who've lived in that land for 3,000 years. There's always been a Jewish presence, and when Israel was founded, there were half a million living there. They didn't oppress or steal. They brought wealth and prosperity, openness and vitality. Why don't collaborate and grow together as a society? Maybe because Muslims don't want to grow, just go to paradise? Listen this Muslim, he's smart https://www.instagram.com/reel/DNxiSB52NbW/?igsh=bG1qNm44ZG1oaGc4

I simply think the Palestinians should have adapted to the changing times and evolved instead of glorifying martyrdom and doing nothing constructive. Living with people like that is impossible; it's a sure war. Your opinion is that Israel should bow to these mentally ill people; mine is that they shouldn't.

🔹 If the Palestinians Had Accepted the UN Partition Plan, Would They Have Kept Their Land? Yes — that is one of the most tragic and paradoxical points in the entire conflict. If the Palestinians had accepted the 1947 UN Partition Plan, they would have retained legal and actual ownership of their lands, even inside the territory assigned to the Jewish state. 1. Land situation before 1947 At the end of the British Mandate, Jews owned only about 6–7% of all land in Palestine. Most of the land belonged to Arab families or absentee landlords, especially from Syria and Lebanon. Jewish settlements were concentrated in Tel Aviv, Haifa, and a few kibbutzim in the north. 2. The 1947 UN Partition Plan (Resolution 181) The plan did not divide territory according to current ownership, but rather according to population distribution and future needs. The Jewish state was assigned about 55% of the territory, but within that area lived around 400,000 Arabs and about 500,000 Jews. The resolution explicitly guaranteed that Arabs remaining in the Jewish state would keep their properties and full civil rights. It also provided for an international compensation mechanism for any land that might have to be transferred. 3. What would have happened if the Arabs had accepted it There would have been no war, and thus no exodus or confiscations. Arab Palestinians would have kept their homes, farms, and businesses, with property rights protected under international supervision. The proposed Arab state would have received immediate recognition and foreign aid. Mixed areas such as Jerusalem would have been placed under international administration, with no exclusive control by either side. 4. What actually happened The Arab League rejected the plan and launched a war to prevent the creation of Israel. During the 1948 war, over 700,000 Arabs fled or were expelled, and their properties were seized under Israel’s Absentees’ Property Law. Those who remained inside Israel (about 160,000 people) kept their citizenship and much of their land; they are today’s Arab Israelis. The refugees and their descendants — now more than five million — were never allowed to return. 5. Conclusion If the Palestinians had accepted the partition plan, they would have retained nearly half of the land of Mandatory Palestine, their property within the Jewish state would have remained theirs, and a Palestinian state would have existed since 1948.

@zazen come to the real world. Israel is the best thing that could have happened to the Palestinians and the Middle East in general. They can't continue living in the Middle Ages, stoning adulterers, hanging gays, and killing blasphemers in the 30th century. When we open interdimensional portals and communicate with alien civilizations, what would happen if one of them drew a picture of Muhammad? Have you thought about that? An intergalactic war! That would be terrible!

Muslim nations couldn't care less about the many other, worse conflicts occurring in the Muslim world. Only this one seems important to them, and it's for identity reasons. A century ago, this was, let's say, inevitable, but now they should evolve, and they are. Indonesia already says it's necessary to accept Israel. Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, and the United Arab Emirates are also on that same page. And soon, everyone except the Islamist clowns in the line of the Muslim Brotherhood like Turkey, Iran, and Qatar will do so. Islamism, not Islam, islamism, is a plague, and must dissapear from this world. Then Islam could be just a religion, not a political system . We are in XXI century, not in X. And why will they do it, accepting Israel? Because of the strength that Israel has demonstrated and continues to demonstrate. So, why is Israel's attitude in Gaza so wrong, if it's the only one its neighbors respect?

The Spanish were ruled by the Romans without any problems. They didn't spend all day crying. In fact, they thought it was a positive thing. Then they were ruled by the Arabs, and the same thing happened, without spending all day committing attacks. Everything was fine, until they declared war on them. They won and expelled the Arabs. If they had lost, they would have been Arabs and wouldn't have spent 300 years crying and stabbing Arabs. Otherwise, they would have been exterminated, which is what happens to the mentally retarded who can't accept reality. And btw, the war that the Spanish and french declared to the Arabs was a religious war. The reason of that war was expelling the Islam . It's the same that the war that the Muslim countries have now with Israel. The difference is that the Spanish were in the 10 century, and the Muslims in the 21, with the same ideas