Mulky

I realize I don't have a profile picture but still... read this it might be interesting. I have been around a tremendous amount of stage blue people, and have had no choice but to interact with them for extended periods of time. Engaging in conversation and mostly listening to them. Stage blue people have often approached me and wanted to have all sorts of talks about their religion etc. If you have not been around very many stage blue people you may be extremely surprised that these are in fact real people who are actually like this and there is absolutely nothing you can say or do to in any way change them. You will very likely not be able to convince them of anything. It reminds me of learning in school about people from earlier times, let's say peasants living in the feudal age. You would imagine that if you went back there to talk to them, they would confide in you that they didn't really feel like this identity or believe in their king. But no, if you went back and met them, they would be almost the exact cliche you have read about, its quite mind blowing. I have become so fascinated by stage blue people. There was a time when I thought they felt Christianity and a human like god and the bible and the cross were all known by them to be symbols of something beyond them. It actually turns out that this is not the case. Remember I'm only talking about stage blue people, there are Christians that are not stage blue. The real problem with stage blue as I have been nearly devoured by it over the last couple of years lol, is that it is so close to stage red. The veneer placed over stage red, stage blue is actually quite brutal. It's brutal in its vibe, its very hard to be around, an extremely unfree vibe, very sad and painful to be around. Massive amounts of abuse have come from stage blue and it's flawed approach to trying to be good. kids are extremely difficult for stage blue, the natural free energy of a child is a threat to them. The way a child is comes straight from God, but is not quite fit for a pretend idea of a god yet. It's too free and natural, so stage blue is very abusive and repressive, creating a backlash of generations of people obsessed with demons and horror and all that jazz.... stuff having not much appeal aside from the reaction to stage blue it provides. Ya... I could write a book on stage blue. You basically have to listen to them and thats about it, you can try to slip in some mind expanding comment here and there but it would take decades of turbulent change for them to become a person not painful to be around. Oh and ya, they do think new age things are the devil. In fact, there are many things that could help them that they avoid because it is the devil. If something is socially normal enough, they will accept it, such as computers. They understand very little about psychology and thus can't avoid the mistake about placing so much power in this devil thing that it actually becomes the god they live by, and they then emboid the characteristics the devil was meant to be a metaphor for. Stage blue people also often believe in ghosts and demons and things you typically see in western horror movies. This is because it fills in the gaps and sort of sits as an unofficial companion piece to their religion. I should add I have met a few pretty cool and nice stage blue people. Some are really patient and accepting of others. These people I have highly valued, but they are rare.

When leo is speaking and addressing the viewer, he is usually speaking to the most basic of viewer it seems like. At times almost like he is addressing the kind of viewer who wouldn't even watch his videos.

I know what you mean Vincent, sometimes you just want to explain something but the fact of talking and using words causes others to misunderstand what you are trying to say.

Your soul is another identity

I get what you're saying, but during the time of a believed individual existence, suffering will happen, and it won't be anyones fault, or truly caused by anyone. For the individuals(which are in a way real while they are happening, the suffering is an experience that will happen) it will be arbritrary and meaningless, for the totality it will be it's movement or evolution. That is why it is so hard to be an individual. My hope is existence learns there are these experiences of suffering and this is healed.

Would there be any difference between someone stomping on your foot or stomping on a rock, in your experience.

Also, what if you live with someone, family etc, who doesn't understand any of this, and makes mistakes of nurturing thoughts that will lead to bad outcomes. Aren't they somewhat connected with you, isn't your fate somewhat intertwined. If your dad didn't know this, or your town, it's not as though your subconscious didn't get conditioned by all of that. And now your subconscious mind needs to be fully changed to get a life you want. It's like you want to break out of patters that have lead you into an environment that so strongly reinforces the conditioning. Because when we say "you picked this", thats not really true, the subconscious did, pure conditioning did, you're not really any of that stuff. Its just more stuff moving around in causality. Now new conditioning appears(this information) that will hopefully change it. But its silly to think there is some sort of pure unconditioned being that just picked what he wanted. The picking itself, and the criteria of the picking, would all be some form of subtle object, some form of conditioned movement. This subject annoys me because while it is true, it seems how it plays out isn't actually controlled by you. It's somewhat tragic because it's like this. One prospers and thinks prosperous thoughts and prospers while another is trapped in a cycle of hardship, leading to a mental conditioning which leads to more hardship. But how this all plays out is completely predetermined, it is 100 percent causality like everything else. It only makes sense if its part of all of existences's necessary wave of moving and changing and it can be no other way. For any kind of individual existence this kind of reality seems insane. So you can give up individuality and if the fate of your body is one of hardship, your existence will be one of witnessing hardship, and theres nothing you can do about it, and the opposite goes for prosperity. You may now implement this understanding from the op, or not, but even that is not up to you.

It's hard on me to understand this, and see how fully my enironment is full of bad seeds. I do my best to quarantine my own mind, still negative influences still find their way to me relentlessly. I always have the sense if i could be in an ok environment, I could be free of this forever. But in order to get free of the negative environment, I have to override all of my stuff that is automatically coming in all day that is turning everyone around me into what I don't wan to be. You ever have that feeling, you have been working on your inner self for a while, knowing what needs to be done, and,, here's your new coworker, complaining all the time. Now what? you make an effort to turn them around, so you won't have this negative influence forced upon you, but this is constant effort and doesn't always work, especially if it is a group. Or you just go into acceptance, so now this negative conditioning is just getting in and very slowly having an impact. This is all very hard when your entire environment and all of those around you are workign against this effort. You feel worthy of being spared of all this and set free, but it's not happening, I'm just as much in it as those who don't understand or don't care. They don't know they're wasting their time I do, but it's not freeing me of this nonsense.

In a memory, you know you're not there in any way other than an observer. You're not threatened, you're sort of free of the situation like an outside observer. That is why it feels so good.

Curious if anyone has any examples of stage turquoise media entertainment. Shows/movies streams etc. I don't mean things that are about stage turquoise, and about the values and ideas associated with turquoise/high consciousness. I mean something that would be a pleasant form of entertainment to this type of person. So not a movie about enlightenment, but a movie that has a certain feel to it that is on that sort of wavelength. it's not as though you're trying to learn, just have some fun and be entertained, but in a way that resonates with a stage turquoise mind. Thanks

Ok thanks Joseph I'll look into it

It is a good idea to make your job a spiritual practice however, since its usually 8 hours a day. If you pick a job you can meditate at, you will not feel bad about meditating for 8 hours a day, you won't have any temptation, it is like being a professional meditator lol. Next step is a job where maybe you walk around and do basical physical tasks, staying meditative all day. Talking all day.... good luck with this one. Thinking all day.... again good luck. Anyone who can stay in a meditative state while talking and thinking all day I'm impressed.

I get what you're saying about existing and sitting on a park bench. that is not something I need to ask about , my question isn't as deep as your wanting to go here. I'm really just asking if there are any media entertainment that has any appeal to stage turquoise. There are a million non media answers, that is not what I'm asking about. Sometimes you just want to sit and watch something on your computer.

I choose to do jobs that allow a meditative state most of the time. i have trouble believing those who claim to be in a state of presence while doing something like math. In my experience it doesn't work this way. I can not be doing math and think about how all is one even while doing math, but at that moment I'm not actually in that experience. I can claim all is love even while being murdered, but if I was actually being murdered it would be harder. There is a big difference here. There is a reason Ramana got annoyed and pushed his school books away, and this was after his enlightenment.

I guess I could post a couple Bob Ross watching this car drive around the country while i listen to music https://www.twitch.tv/adanalife_

the initial awakening that starts one on the path usually leads to much bigger and more serious egos.

I don't really see any sign of fear or non freedom there, so good stuff . Seems completely unblocked, compassionate, and honest.

Ya, when i was a kid sitting out side I became the sky or something, can't remember it very clearly anymore. The main thing I remember is that I felt I was the sky just as surely as I would normally feel like a person/body. After that I thought and rationalized about it a lot and decided it made no sense and so I sort of pretended it didn't happen.

Walk A LOT. And while walking make a point to constantly stay in the present moment experience especially the feelings in your body, and especially in your chest and stomache and face. You can do any technique for as long as you want but if you just want to get out of your head and be present this will do the trick, guaranteed. The first step you take won't instantly save you, you have to walk for a while and keep at this practice. Breath very deeply and work through the emotions that come up. Good luck

I know what you mean here. At first I wouldn't miss one second of present moment mindfull awarnees. I started allowing myself unconscious days at some point. It was nice to go easy on myself. Now I find I go a bit to easy on myself in my practice, and end up giving myself way to many unconscious days. I wouldn't recommend it lol.

I watch his channel to, really good guy and explains difficult stuff really well.

You help a lot by being loving and supportive, it makes a big difference, but it won't solve all their problems.

Play some vanilla minecraft

it doesn't matter if you fall asleep in there, it happens a lot from what I hear. Your mouth and nose naturally stay out of the water even if you fall asleep, you pretty much stay in a solid position aside from drifting ever so slightly. Might as well keep your eyes opened though, as it will give you a different experience than having your eyes closed. If you wipe your face or something you might get salt in your eyes, you might wanna keep a spray bottle and towel nearby, but once you get the hang that won't happen.

Here is a funny story of how it went for me. 1.Read power of now, immediately started doing self inquiry right without knowing what it was, for a decent amount of time. 2.wanted the ego to completely go away, as in not even knowing there was a person there at all, not even knowing about a body, just wandering around with no reference to anything and just being awareness. Got forceful and impatient, learned about self inquiry, did it pretty much wrong and wasted a lot of time. 3.Did awareness watching awarness wrong for a while. Looking for a thing that is awareness, always found some kind of symbol of awarness, which wasn't the overall goal(but is part of it) 4. one day, after having done both of these off and on, and popped into the orignal practice i had started doing years ago, so in a way the incorrectly done practices did guide me back. 5.That practice is best described as existing as the knowing of existing, as the knowing of anything, as best you can. As just sitting(or standing or whatever)as the knowing of existence, which won't be much at first probably. 6. came to find out doing the first 2 practices "wrong" wasn't really wrong, it was just more outer stages of it. Still have a ways to go but feel like im finding my way back home. peace