The0Self

lol that's probably true

And ignorance is bliss. And innocence. Knowing appears, but nothing is ever known.

From what I've seen you post on here, it's not going to mess you up. I don't know. I haven't watched any of Leo's recent videos but the most profound/"dangerous" one that I watched imo was probably the everyone has good intentions video.

Very nice. In the end, and this was very unexpected: there is no knowing. Every argument can only end in nobody being right or wrong, no matter how deep or clear the certainty or logic is. Certainty and doubt are completely illusory. There is no possibility of anything, there is simply nothing...not even. There simply isn't any separation between what appears. Which is not knowable as the knowing is itself the imaginary separation (ironically via connection) between apparent objects which aren't actually there. All there is, is what appears and does not appear (which are not two), and there isn't anything that both appears and is known. Ever. What appears is absolutely real and unreal at the same time... And it's all there is -- all there is and isn't. There's no condition inside or outside of it -- it is unconditionally and blindly itself, and has no meaning or direction. It is everything, and it is nothing. It's absolute; all there is, and yet... it's literally not actually happening. Because closed-cases, like everything else, are not available in the first place to be known, this is not a case-closed. It's an apparent description of nothing, and therefore of course has no value. There can't be a wrong way or a right way to describe what is indescribable -- there can't be a way, by definition... No way! . And yet, some descriptions seem to come closer, but that knowledge too is not actually a knowledge... it's completely empty of knowing.

Kind of, it seems. In the end though, and this was incredibly surprising: there is no such thing as more or less conscious, because there is no knowing. There is only being special, and not being special, which are not two. There's not two, period... though. Every distinction/duality/knowing, though it may appear, simply carries nothing with it... and by this I mean it is indescribably itself, blindly itself, purely itself, with nothing outside or behind it, exactly as it appears, and with nothing added on (as it's all there is) such as meaning or purpose or value or reality or unreality or anything whatsoever in particular. So in other words every argument can only end in nobody being right or wrong, no matter how deep or clear the certainty or logic is. Certainty and doubt are completely illusory. Given that, there's no "more/less conscious" possible. Because closed-cases, like everything else, are not available in the first place to be known, this is not a case-closed. Just points to the illusoriness of the "more/less conscious" mind-structure. Not for any purpose though!

Scientists know more about science. But there is no knowing anywhere -- and nobody and no scientist knows that either. Sense is nonsense -- yet it's all there is. Which is not even a knowable true statement -- there is no true statement, which is also not a true statement, and so on... Knowing nothing and knowing everything/anything are not two, and utterly empty of knowing itself or knowing something separate... There's no thing/object/subject/time/place/circumstance, and no one, to be separate in the first place. There's simply no knowing.

No one ever knows anyone else; don’t take it personally.

There’s no one separate from everything to be conscious or not be conscious. The appearance has absolutely no requirement at all for knowing, no matter what appears. In fact, knowing of any kind never actually happens. You are unknowable, and others are unknowable. Everything is the same unknowing. Self and other are not two. Infinity is not huge, it’s immeasurable; it’s absolutely nothing. And there’s no real knowing (awareness), or even not-knowing, whatsoever as there’s no one separate from everything for knowing to apply. No one knows another. All that apparently happens is void singing to void.

Yes the apparent separate ego/doer is inseparable from God’s will — it is God’s will. If by God’s will we mean everything. And if you mean something else then that’s even more of a story. The ego is being done. It’s at complete rest. There appears the imagining of itself as doing, when it’s really just surfing what is already done, but without the ability to see that... because it’s already being done; it’s not somewhere separate from this to be known — there’s no separation.

Knowing actually doesn’t require knowing — good thing, because there isn’t any. There aren’t any paradoxes. All paradoxes merely point to what is beyond knowing — nothing is everything, etc. There isn’t really a nothing or an everything which are the same. There’s simply what appears to be, which is singular, unconnected, unbounded, not separate, without meaning, and without solidity. The changing never changes. Nothing isn’t even nothing — it’s simply unknowable, not two, and all there is.

Events that apparently led to other ones which aren’t preferable — that can happen. But it’s not really regret, because there’s already only what’s appearing to happen, and no possibility of it being otherwise, and no matter what happens, it could be no other way. Whatever is done is already done. Regretting that liberation didn’t happen earlier though... Kind of beside the point, because liberation doesn’t actually happen, and in a sense it’s just the recognition that it’s all there ever was anyway. There is no self to be liberated, nor liberated from.

There’s no you. Only nothing, which is apparently everything. If enlightenment happens, you won’t be there to notice it. There is no real perspective or center to the boundless appearance.

There’s just no separation at all. You’re identified as a program which apparently exists for the sole purpose of connecting what is already not separate. There are no other lifetimes as there is no one alive, separate from life itself, or whatever you want to call everything, or what appears to be.

^^^ While finite bad is bad and finite good is good, bad without limit is good without limit, because that which is without limit is nothing.

It is completely unexpected, yes. There was never anyone on a path and no one ever does anything. Everything is being done by nothing. What's looked for hides ingeniously by already being everything. The longing for "a something" is actually the longing for exactly whatever appears to be, aka everything.

There's only nothing appearing to happen. What is not, appears to be. The answer is that there is no answer. There's no answer to everything, because there's nothing outside of everything to answer it or grasp it.

Maybe. But strictly not taking any at all drugs out of principle to me sounds like a bit of a hang up.

It is true though. The apparent you necessarily does not want enlightenment. That’s its whole game. It’s not substantive though, it’s an added on piece of software that keeps things seeming separate and real, and logical and knowable and not-chaotic. So if it indeed seems to appear, that’s what’s longed for. If it’s not what’s longed for, the seeking energy can sputter out in hopelessness, but there’s absolutely no need for that to happen, and no way to bring it about, because all that’s left is nothing being everything, which is already the case. The terrible, great news is that the seeker/ego/doer is utterly impotent. It has never done anything. It's thinner than thin. It merely appropriates what happens as its own, which is not only a false claim, but it also it hides the fact that what happens is only appearing to happen, for no one.

If awakening is the falling away of the separate individual or rather the recognition that it never was real, how can the separate individual ever awaken? There never was one. It's an appearance. And it will never be known when it falls away, first of all because it's already not real, but when its nature is seen, there's obviously no one left to know whether they're awake or not. I can only imagine y'all must assume awakening is knowable, in which case you're talking about something entirely different, such as a state in which an apparent one is untouched by what arises -- that state can apparently arise, but it's not the liberation often referred to, because that's already all there is.

Sounds great! There's no such thing as enlightenment anyway. If it seems like you are enlightened, that is perhaps a state of transcendence, or an understanding of the emptiness of phenomena, or perhaps the reverberations of a glimpse which is now being seen as important or valuable. There's nothing wrong or right with that, it's simply what's appearing. All there is, is nothing (illogical boundlessness) appearing to happen. Whatever appears is simply boundless energy in that form. There isn't any meaning or purpose (limit) to anything at all. When so called liberation occurs, one thing that is obvious is that it's the end of mystical experiences, because there's nothing actually happening. This is pure emptiness appearing as circumstances, which the apparent separate person appropriates as theirs/real.

At the same time, it just plays out as it does. And there's no way to get it wrong. Because all there is, is wholeness, and while nothing can be done, nothing needs to be done, as there's no one to do it anyway, and this totality is completely without meaning or purpose of any kind.

Choline being turned into trimethylamine-N oxide (TMAO) in the gut & liver could be the theory? I believe that is actually what it was.

From my research there can be issues with more than 2 eggs a day over the long term. It wasn't just the cholesterol though, it was the choline or something but I can't remember exactly. However if you eat 4-5 eggs at a time but only did so 2-3x a week, or nearly daily but only for short periods (a couple weeks), there would probably be no negative effects.

The forum is a timeless appearance of this boundless energy which is as empty as it is full, and without constraint. There's only the timeless, complete (and completely empty) appearance.

Neo Advaita -- enlightenment teaching -- Mooji, Akilesh (Sifting to the Truth) and also anyone else who teaches self inquiry. Nonduality -- there is no such thing as nonduality, but the term refers to what is pointed to (the unknowable), via exposing the dilemma of seeking, by the boundless non-communication which speaks to no one and comes directly from unknowing, and it's recognized there is no one separate from wholeness, and there's no intention in the communication -- Tony Parsons, Jim Newman, Kenneth Madden, Andreas Muller, Anna Brown, Mei Long, Ariana Reflects, Lisa Cairns, Tim Cliss, Richard Sylvester. Totally and utterly different.